hi /adv/, as the title says, i am a stupid loser female. i have no life whatsoever. i changed from going to real school to online school when i was a junior in hs. i have no friends. i barely ever leave the house. i don't even have my drivers permit because im too fucking busy rotting my life away watching youtube conspiracy theory icebergs. ive been to the psych ward twice. once when i was fourteen and againn in november, it was hell. it only really made things worse for me both times because of my violent tendencies. im taking five meds just for my mental health at this point and nothing works. ive been going to therapy since i was six years old and i just get worse and worse. i want to get better. i want to get a job and have a life and be a normal fucking person. i hate being around people, though. i spend 90% of my time in my bedroom. i don't even talk to my mom anymore because all she does is try to argue with me about every little thing. im just really tired of being a fat ugly female, so please help. just something little, even. i need motivation to be better. (attatched photo is not me. im fat but im not spherical.)
>>34074113you can be a loser and likely you'll get out of that situation eventually, but please at least make the effort to learn some useful skills and hobbies, your future self will thank you, you don't want to reach your 30's without having meaningful personal achievements. find some activity to do when you're bored that doesn't have anything to do with the internet.
>>34074113The less you go out, the less you'll want to go out. Start by spending two hours at the gym, even if you don't want to. two hours a day. To improve your mental health, improve your physical health first.Don't believe what psychiatrists tell you; pills don't cure whatever you have, just keeps it at a baseline level. Your brain only fixes itself when it is activated (adaptation).Two hours, you don't have anything better to do with your life.
You are over medicated and sedated as fuck and it's making you fat and feeling like shit. Like try cutting that shit out, eat better food, learn about diets, like keto that works wonders. Also get some light walks and get some sun on your skin. It doesn't have to be hard, just small steps and watch for any small improvement and correct if necessary
>>34074113>ive been going to therapy since i was six years oldWhat? WHY?>>34074113>im just really tired of being a fat ugly femaleIf this is truly the case, and you aren't just some attention seeking Tranny, the path forward for you is pretty simple...NOT EASY, but simple.>>34074131>you can be a loser and likely you'll get out of that situation eventuallyNope, that's NOT how it works.Habitual Ideation breeds a comfort and familiarity with one's current condition, and that condition will be a slow downward spiral into further physical and mental degradation.The effort has to be made FIRST, and then again...and then again.there are literally hundreds of MILLIONS of "Losers" who wait and wait for someone or something to be their magical "CURE", just dropped into their laps. That will never come.Like OP's pic; that girl has passed the point of no return of returning to a normal healthy life without serious and drastic Diet changes and likely sugical skin removal after the fact. She's also damaged her internal organs probably to the point that she'll never gain full recovery of them.OP has stated that she's not there yet, but if she just waits for something to happen, this is a likely outcome for her as well.The rest of your post isn't bad advice, just secondary to getting in shape and getting off the meds if possible. >>34074201>The GymYeah, THAT's not going to happen either.OP is going to find that more anxiety inducing, to be "judged" and being around people.A better start would be Two hour walks, as brisk as she can handle, and if she's in a safe enough place at night. >To improve your mental health, improve your physical health first.This is absolutely spot on, however. Your advice will work well after a solid month or 2 of diet and solo exercising.
>>34074242This is the most even-keeled advice ITTI'd only add that OP go to the dollar store ASAP and get herself a couple composition books to start keeping track of her goals/progress.OP:NOBODY is going to do it FOR you.Welcome to reality.Yeah, people are generally shitty and selfish, but even ITT, ALL the replies were attempting to be helpful, and most all of the info in ALL of the replies was good, just early.
>>34074113I’m sorry but what the fuck lol>ive been going to therapy since I was six years old.That’s insane. And I am not talking about (you). I think that parents who send 6 year olds to therapy is tantamount to neglect or abuse. What a shitty thing to put a child through. Outsourcing their own infant to a strange quack because they didn’t want to help their children directly in a real meaningful way. What did they send you to the shrink at age 6 for? And why have you been medded like a zoo animal? What was the “diagnosis”? Because 90% of mental disorders only erupt after teens and early adulthood. It’s almost impossible for a child to develop most mental disorders except a rare few.
>>34074305We need to hear back from OP, but I'd be willing to bet that it was at the behest of the teachers at school.IDKWTF happened in the late 80s, but from then on there was a decided push to get almost every single kid on drugs or into some kind of $$Weekly Therapy$$Actually, I do know.That was when ADD was reclassified as ADHD and Ritalin was being given out like candy, and also the book "Listening to Prozac" hit the shelves in '93, opening up a whole new FLOOD of over-prescribing, Throw it at the brain and see if it sticks mentality.It's ALL bullshit. you can look up ANY psych drug and with few exceptions, the text will admit that they "Don't know exactly how this works" or "The mechanisms involved are still unclear"Every...Fucking... Time...That's not to say that some meds aren't helpful for extreme cases like schizophenia, but that's more for society's well being than for the patient's.
>>34074301>>34074360Im the anon that wrote the advice. Thanks for your input. Your post was genuinely interesting and I hope more people realize what is happening. It's criminal what they are doing to kids.
>>34074360Well said. I have ADD as well, diagnosed in adulthood. Didn’t take meds until adulthood. Thank God my dad told the teachers to go fuck themselves when they suggested medicating me as a child. He protected my right to having a childhood. If my kid gets ADD i’d never med them or even put them in therapy, total fucking scam. I don’t even think ADD should be classified as a disorder. What I am is simply an external processor, I am addicted to outcomes because I prefer practical learning over sitting at a desk for 8 hours reading bullshit on a book non stop. I wanted to work with my hands and muscle memory but school system is outdated and shit.
>>34074305i actually agree with your thinking there. my parents are genuinely shitty people. the reason they started sending me to therapy is because my parents got divorced when i was three. when i was five, my mom got remarried and it probably took a toll on me (repressed memories. i don't remember). I have a whole list of pointless disorders/mental illnesses. bipolar 2, bpd, adhd, odd (oppositional defiance disorder), generalized anxiety disorder, etc etc. i have bouts of psychosis sometimes that have been going on since i was 13 or so, but i haven't gotten any confirmed diagnosis on that so far. they put me on meds for my adhd at first (started on adderall and prozac. both had adverse reactions), i've been on latuda which made me hallucinate, and a lot more. but as of right now i'm on azstarys and intuniv (for adhd), lexapro (depression/anxiety), lamictal (bipolar), and abilify (antipsychotic). none of them seem to do very much at all which sucks. thanks for actually being concerned with my parents being assholes lol.
>>34074360was never on ritalin, but was on prozac. became the literal devil when i took it.
>>34074390Holy shit. Yeah this might be highly bold of me, but I genuinely got a gut feeling your diagnoses are bullshit. And the therapists put you through a triage of passing the buck and guesswork and throwing diagnoses at you & meds. Are you mentally fucked? Yeah probably. But who wouldn’t be after getting doped up and drugged and thrown at therapists since age 6 holy shit. I am so sorry this happened to you. I am angry for you.Maybe you got add/adhd, sure. But i can tell you that all of those other diagnoses have overlapping symptoms with adhd anyway, in other words i wouldnt be surprised if bullshit quacks looked at your adhd traits and misdiagnosed entire disorder diagnoses out of them.Adhd is often packed with anxiety issues. Adhd also gets mistaken for BPD a lot, a LOT. Adhd also has an innate injustice complex pathology, people with adhd are usually distrustful of authorities and authority figures (hence the oppositional defiance disorder bullshit they tried to pin on you).And as for psychosis, psychosis is a synptom, not a disorder. And adhds are highly prone to psychosis when under immense pressure. I’ve had two psychotic episodes in my life as an adhd. It’s not even that alarming, your pattern recognition goes haywire and you get paranoid and start being fearfully delusional for a bit until you cool down. This is because ADHD naturally has emotional dysregulation, it cant process emotions in a ‘straight line’, only a zig zag pattern, when that overloads due to intense stress, psychosis hits. Doesnt make you insane or kill you lol. I’d strongly consider moving the fuck away from home and starting new. Dont go it alone tho. Lean on help, avoid therapists, but seek adhd groups or real people who been through similar.
>>34074376>It's criminal what they are doing to kids.It is...>>34074381Great Dad! >What I am is simply an external processorYeah, that's what MOST children should have a balance of, Run, jump, play, and do chores; and also sit for a couple hours after eating and learn some Trivium ( grammar, logic, and rhetoric.) as well as learning processes and then APPLYING them right afterwards, like with systems, and processes.I'm a weird Anomaly these days, being a GenXer since I didn't have some chronic malady, nor was on some kind of "Spectrum" but I watched it happen to a LOT of my generation, then get even WORSE with each new batch of kids. What was a stigma in the 60s became a "Status symbol" in the 70s and 80s with therapy and taking "Psych meds".Kek! I'm sure this is probably the ONLY thing that Scientologists got right, but assuredly for much different reasons.
>>34074274thank you, anon. i'll definitely try getting outside more. the gym is very anxiety-inducing for me, so walks could probably help for sure.also, for a bit more context as to WHY im overweight: (im not saying its the whole reason, but its a contributing factor) i have PCOS, which means i have cysts on my ovaries. it messes up my hormone balance and creates insulin resistance which creates cravings and too much testosterone in my body. i am biologically female, but i get a little bit of facial hair sometimes and a lot of acne. my period is also messed up (ik its tmi sorry).i went to my gyno last week and they're gonna give me an iud tomorrow. thats the little thingy that goes into the cervix as a contraceptive, but in my case it will stop my period too. not that i have sex at all, but its good to have. it also lasts for 8 years iirc.
>>34074440>Great Dad!Honestly? Yeah. Time was I used to resent the bastard a lot. He had his own issues, long story. But now that I’ve become a dad myself, I can see the world through his eyes, I see the shit he had to fight against all by himself to protect his own family. I respect him a lot now. I suppose that’s typical father/son shit. Prodigal son hates the dad, learns to respect him once son wisens up lolMy dad was fiercely against medicating kids because it happened to him in the 60’s. They put him on barbiturates at age 5. Fucking barbiturates. All because school teachers couldn’t deal with a kid who was tormented from coming from a rough home, because his dad (my grandad) was shellshocked to shit from WW2 and took to drinking and beating the kids as an outlet.It feels like western society never gave a fuck about healing their own countrymen after war. Big pharma stepped in to offer fake quick ‘fixes’ to get people to shut up, lose their soul, and get back to work.
>>34074390I'm a little ODD myself, but that's more due to being lied to and mistreated by a LOT of "Authority figures" who simply weren't that smart, (I know, i know..anyone can lie on the intarrweebs, but I truly am 98th-99th percentile,) and my mistrust of "Doctors" and "Experts" has been a thing since I was 7. Thing is, I don't think I'm always the smortest,(yep, intentional,) person in the room. There are tons of people who can bring interesting and enlightening things to a conversation, and LOTS of people who can grasp things I can't into, even though they supposedly "Tested Dumber" than I.IQ is just a dynamic number that changes due to all kinds of things, and it sure as hell has little to do with success in this world.>>34074406I believe it. that shit goes 2 ways: Zombification or psychotic breaks. (the "Docs" prefer the former.)>>34074431Damn man.. that's a big bullseye. Excellent post.>I’d strongly consider moving the fuck away from home and starting new.This.There's a few steps to hit first, however. The diet and exercise will do wonders, then OP can focus on the job and moving forward.I know that Narcissism gets tossed around quite a bit these days,(probably due to all the jewTub $Content$ that causes people to see narc tendencies,( which most everyone has on occasion,) as full blown "NPD"But even lazy or self-centered parents can be major stumbling blocks and saboteurs of their own children by taking the "Easy way" for themselves while also attempting to control them as extensions of themselves.(I think cramming 3 replies in a post is my limit-sorry for mass-fagging)
>>34074442>it messes up my hormone balance and creates insulin resistanceTried low carb or Ketogenic for enough time to get to the weight you want?Give it a shot. It doesn't HAVE to be a lifestyle, just a tool for fixing some of that IR. >but i get a little bit of facial hair sometimes and a lot of acne. my period is also messed up (ik its tmi sorry).No, you're good. This thread seems to be pretty above average, and that usually = clinical info isn't TMI.>and a lot of acneSUGAR. also, treat yourself to some fluffy white towels(maybe a Christmas gift?) and wash them in hot water and bleach. I'm not saying you're dirty, but it's so easy to re-infect your sebaceous glands when you are running high glucose levels.I'm working on a patent that will easily disinfect dryers before use too, (simple really, just a strong UV-C lamp that attaches to the dryer door--please don't steal,) >i went to my gyno last week and they're gonna give me an iud tomorrow.I hope it's a paragard, unless you WANT progestin for regulation. The pill and other progestin delivery systems fuck a LOT of women's hormones up, regardless of the "Sales Pitch". Paragard is a copper one.
>>34074544If I were a therapist I would diagnose you as an NPD for daring to acknowledge your own intelligence, how dare you commit that cardinal sin, don’t you know you are supposed to pretend to be stupid to let others feel unmerited success? How dare you question the experts and the field of psychiatry and pharmaceuticals. Those two fields are clearly infallible and beyond error, more infallible than when the Pope speaks Ex Cathedra. Now take the “personality disorder” diagnosis with humility, we invented it out of an outdated model of psychopathy and sociopathy which we stopped using as clinical diagnostic terms because it was too vague. And we reallt wanted to substitite the concept of evil and moral wrong with a made up pathology, so we created “clusters” and you see you are cluster B, and now you have NPD because that’s what the horoscope— er, I mean the psychological literature told us.
>>34074685>How dare you commit that cardinal sin,DUHhhhhhh, Im srry, I wil tri to bee moar stoopid!
>>34074685also...Pitcher relatted
>>34074696>>34074704Kek. Jokes aside thank fucking god you are possessed of a mind and have intelligence, glad I’m not the only one who sees how fucked up the realm of modern psychiatry is. It’s a real shame because I once dreamed of becoming one myself, I figured my own shit out and climbed out of mental hell and my first instinct was to go back to help others out and do for others what I never got. Then I see how the ship is run in a lot of clinical practices and its a fucking joke. Yare yare fuckin daze. Imagine drugging a 6 year old jesus i cant get over that
>>34074726>It’s a real shame because I once dreamed of becoming one myself,Yeah, I did in high school too. even took some psych classes both there and in college.My experience was... well, mostly I was nonplussed by the other students. But when I saw the political changes in the DSM-V, I NOPE'd out.You do far more good by simply talking to people and giving them good advice(which they usually won't take since advice for some reason is usually directly proportional to what they paid for it in their minds.)>Imagine drugging a 6 year old jesus i cant get over thatYeah,I can't even.Real brave new world shit there.>A gramme is better than a damn!I think I might head over to the Centrifugal Bumblepuppy courts for a bit,(they actually had these at my elementary school), but I'll look in on the thread later.OP has a basic framework at this point.
>>34074829Based, peace>OP has a basic framework at this point.Hope so.>>34074113Sorry for drifting off into diff topics on your own thread there, OP. I wanna give my advice about handling parents who fucked you over: Fear & shame, that’s why they did it. Don’t bother confronting them over the massive fuck up they made of having therapists raise you instead of themselves. They’ll deny, deflect, deny, and argue and argue and argue non-stop. Because parents never want to admit they fucked up their job at being a parent. It’s the one thing humans are terrified of fucking up, so terrified are they, that if they do fuck it up, they will go into denial. Cuz there was once a time where they had you, you were in momma’s belly, mom and dad were dreaming of happy ever afters, and loving each other and loving you. They prob dreamed of that day for years. Anyway divorce happens, it fucks up, they realise they fucking ruined the dream, ruined your world, they feel immense shame, so they throw you at therapy to sweep their shame under the rug and to make themselves feel like they fixed what they broke themselves. Only it made it worse because all it did was internalise the idea that (you) are somehow a problem-child. Like a leper, or a devil. They ruined their own kid and that’s on them.But its not over. You can radically accept this fate and choose to build on top of it anyway and continue a life made and lived on your own terms, you can finish what you parents couldnt and raise yourself out of dysfunction. It’ll be hard ass work but god damn it thats what you deserve, an actual decent life.
>>34074131good advicelearn an instrument or programming or drawing and get really good at it at least
