>>34078952
What advice do you want

>>34078958
Why are you heartless

>>34078960
what advice do you want

Realistically it’s over op, not sure why you’re just realising it now lol. I’m 29 tho and accepted it’s over
Maybe find some nice copes in your time

All non whores are taken by 25 at most

same, OP
it is unquestionably, unequivocally over

how does this even happen to a person? are you super ugly and autistic?

Ohhhh brotherrrr, you just have to put yourself out there and be yourself. Touch grass and realise a partner isn't just gonna fall in your lap.

>>34079380
To you that seems like it, but not to everyone else. You can still find a way through it, even if it is all hopeless.

>>34078952
If you're happy in the cel life, that's fine.

Maybe update the thread to add a little more info on what advice you're actually looking for so that guys don't clown on you?

>>34079418
33 here. im pretty damn ugly and very dysfunctional and pretty autistic. i have no car and i live with my mom. the idea of being surrounded by other people in a factory doing work makes me feel like i'll freak the fuck out. i've worked a lot of retail and a few other weird jobs.
what is a good job for someone that is exponentially losing his ability to be in public?
i want another janitor job

>>34079589
Sorry you’re so upset >>34079496
There is no “seems like”
It’s objectively over for op unless he licks out

>>34079418
As a 32 yesr old virgin man whos never had a gf but has made out a couple of times, i just never ever approach new women when i have the opportunity to and i dont seek them out either. Im not ugly or retarded. I have friends that really like me. Im just too afraid of approaching women because i never have and i dont know what to do

>>34078952
24 and afraid I'm going in this direction. At 34 why not just say fuck it and do some speed dating?

Ya'know I discovered the secret to being a Eugene. Just try to enjoy life despite it all. It's okay being a dork, but what isn't is depending on everyone and taking yourself so fucking seriously.

>>34079729
Night security

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>>34079418
attractive but 90% sure molested as a child, bad experiences with women, and other abandonment issues tho ive had some girlsfriends but only had sex twice.
first was with fat gf but could not get hard with her until one drunken after we broke up apparently we plapped tho i felt raped. told my sister about it and she was angry with me. other time was with a chinese girl that again couldnt get hard but stuck cold limp dick inside and came in 3 seconds. been almost 10 years since i touched a woman.
still have hope but suicide spins in my mind like those coin donation boxes (pic rel).
there is a girl friend of the family. stuggle with separating lust and love along with letting go of emotional garbage but what does she want? maybe just lonely and horny.

>>34081268
Why don't you do the same if you're afraid

>>34079418
late developer, bullied in school, pretty sure parents gave up on me at some point, dad was absent, died of cancer when i was 24, mom is sickly and i help out a lot & visit every week, yesterday at christmas dinner she called me "missratener sohn" aka failed son.
have 2 good friends left, had a big circle of friends in my 20s but that was mainly the drugs, cut contact/fizzled out with them one after another from 24-27.
women where always excessively mean to me when i showed interest, not clearly saying no but inviting me to parties, teasing me for saying yes to swiftly, saying that if i dont get layed in this city there has to be something wrong with me. girls showing interest, lead into making out, when i was honest about how inexperienced i was they got the ick and left. they always thought that i was some twink-chad that was getting endless pussy. in fact flirting,
courtship behavior and meat-market speak have always been disturbing and embarassing to witness. i myself can´t do it at all. i dont think i ever flirted with someone, girls leaned into a kiss and i followed.
i´ve had serious feelings for a girl 3 times in my life, they always had a boyfriend and 2/3 times i said nothing. the one time i said something i ended up working with the guy. my phone got stolen out of my locker and my tires had holes in them a lot, that stopped when he moved to a different store.
i´m not super popular, but people generally like me. not even ugly, i have a pretty good face. really skinny though, working on that.
i don´t go out anymore. went to a concert alone a couple of months ago and i just stood there listening to the music, talked to no one.
currently crushing on a coworker who has a (small, ugly, hairy) boyfriend and gets orbited by one really slimy coworker. i doubt she thinks about me at all.
thanks for reading my blog

piggybacking off this, just had a female admit they want me sexually, but im nearly 10 years younger, and a virgin

and 30
idk what im doing but i guess i did it right.
now what, also is it a good idea?

>>34081268
because you're literally the same person you were at 24 and havn't risked anything

>>34085912
FUUUCK i meant to say "female friend" that sounds giga autistic

>>34078952
Start imagining it and maybe you will.

>>34078952
>t. me in two years. i'm not interested in starting a family though.

i have little hope in my life, generally. but when i think of the progress i made this year in the realm of romance, i am a bit hopeful. i asked a girl out for the first time and upgraded from khv to just v.
for now, i will focus on surviving and working towards my life goals

>>34079418
31 here. I fell in love at 15 it was hopeless but I couldn't get her out of my brain for a long time. Then I was balding in my early 20s and it completely ruined my self esteem and made me gave up on it during my university years. Things got better after I've found a job etc. and I've tried dating apps but I've quickly realised that I simply don't have anything to say to the women there even when I got a match. My recluse lifestyle developed over years separates me from women like a river and there is no bridge left.

>>34079418
My mom abused my female siblings when I was younger. As they got older , they started firing back, and as my dad wasn't around to calm down the whole thing they would be at each others throats nearly every single day for the most petty, inane, retarded reasons imaginable. Then they would put it on me to defuse the situation before one of them actually stabs the other one with a kitchen knife.

After I moved out on my own, I got legit angry at women for hitting on me , because I assumed subconsciously that that is just the prelude to getting drawn into yet another torrent of nightmarish bullshit. I then despaired how other men apparently manage to control and force women to take care of their needs without terrorizing them day in and day out, because I assumed that that was what a relationship with women naturally looks like. Because another factor is that my family always prioritized their inane bitch fights over how I felt about, I was basically just a background NPC whose existence stops mattering when one of them just coughed at the wrong moment and now they need to have a four hour screaming match about it because that is the most important thing in the world.


I never had a problem finding women attracted to me though, and as I have by now mostly resolved that stuff through therapy I am confident that things will change.
Not interested at all in a family of my own right now though, the priority is to make up for lost time and recoup all the missed experiences that someone my age should have. Thats not compatible with immediately monogamously shacking up with the next best chick.

>>34079418
The only thing a man has to do to end up like OP is to not approach women. That's it. The vast majority of men will not get approached if they don't also make some effort themselves. For most men, that effort comes more or less naturally as regular socializing (and even if it's rare for them to get asked out directly, signals will occasionally get sent their way), so they don't understand how others struggle, but for heavily introverted dudes who may or may not have a little tism, it's something that has to be forced and practiced.

>>34079486
Wow thanks for the absolutely dogshit advice, I might be a 34 year old loner but at least I'm not socially stunted like you.

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>had a high-school sweetheart I was going to marry
>she got pregnant
>miscarried, which destroyed the relationship
>now I am also 34 and completely alone

What do you think, anon, since we're both here-
Was it better to have loved and lost or never to have loved at all?

>>34079418
white males are hated. I don’t find other races attractive so I’m forced to be all horny and alone for the rest of my life.

>>34087868
I think no matter what happens i'm better off than those people who have kids and rape them or those men who have a kid who ends up killing him and his wife and a bunch of other people

>>34087342
I've forced and practiced and it just doesn't work. the look they give me when they see me walk over to them is like they're by the gorilla pen at the zoo and the gorilla just figured out how to undo the gate, total panic and hesitation because they're afraid I'm going to chimp out and scream and beat them. then i get a stained smile and some one word answers until i go away. they would be happier if I were dead

>>34078952
>>34078960
stop wasting seed, do teshuvah for it, and you'll find someone
https://youtu.be/dyPHDqZ51FU

>>34085912
Christ if shes single just outright ask if if she wants to hook up.

>>34087929
Cope. Do your thing and be your own thing. Whites are actually loved. Be proid of that.

>>34089796
How come white females avoid white males in public ? They are attracted to blacks like flies.

>>34078952
>>cannot imagine having kids or a family
In 10 years you won't have to worry about this.

>>34085901
>meat-market speak
Kekk

Anyway tldr
>cannot imagine having kids or a family
Well then too bad find something else to dedicate your twilight and senile years to or kys

>they always thought that i was some twink-chad that was getting endless pussy
>not even ugly, i have a pretty good face

>currently crushing on a coworker who has a (small, ugly, hairy) boyfriend and gets orbited by one really slimy coworker. i doubt she thinks about me at all.

Ok so stop fkn oneitis'ing your mid ass coworker and go find some available birds within your vicinity you mentalcel workcel

>>34089743
i mean she also bit my nipple and said she used her vibrator thinking about me lmao, i think im in

>>34078952
Same! you do so have a family, our family of emotionally stunted, socially retarded milennial men who will never make it with women.

>>34087342
This is true. The only girl in my entire life that approached me was when I was 13, I rejected cos she was chubby and I wasn't attracted, pretty sure after school finished she bacame a full blown bull-dyke lesbian. Every girl I've ever been interested in would look at me like I was a leper. At this point I don't know anywhere that women are that I could talk to, all the women in my age range are married, single mums or other insane spinsters with more tattoos than brains. When I do find myself in the presence of an attractive girl (maybe twice a year at most) the best I can do, the absolute most I can manage is to pretend she doesn't exist.

>>34089044
Anon did you even read the post you're responding to?
>I've forced and practiced
>the look they give me when they see me walk over to them
>they would be happier if I were dead
What part of any of this sounds like "regular socializing" to you?

>>34079418
Grow up in a family that discourages active socializing and quality time with the opposite sex, have some autism that your father thinks is curable by the belt, and become irrationally afraid of others well into adulthood. I'm 28 now, that's how it happens. Now my parents scratch their heads and wonder why they don't have grandchildren yet, and why their three adult sons haven't dated before.

>>34092735
Did your brothers end up the same.

>>34079418
39, fit and good looking. Ironically it can happen from falling into the “don’t waste your earnings years” trap and simply not liking to go to bars or normie shit. The gym doesn’t cut it. Even if you are a 9/10 it does not matter if you never meet women in the first place

>>34085912
Yes, it's a good idea. You have nothing to lose, and potentially a lot to gain.

>>34093035
I'm the oldest and haven't been on a date in two years. The middle brother is suicidal and the youngest is just taking it easy. We're all in our 20s.

>>34079418
All it takes is missing crucial pieces of development in your teenage years or early adulthood and letting inertia do its thing

Also I'm too ashamed of my body

>>34079418
Yeah. Spent my 20s trying to fix myself and made zero progress. Also trapped in my shithole town with no way to leave.

>>34087036
>I assumed subconsciously that that is just the prelude to getting drawn into yet another torrent of nightmarish bullshit.

For me this is both subconscious and conscious.

Unfortunately the only women who have ever showed explicit interest, were morbidly obese, and clearly mentaly ill, which are my triggers from childhood, so I think I've dodged a bunch of bullets.

>>34092735
Similar

Mother forcibly isolated me.
She is a genuinely retarded control freak, and my father was to gentle to wrangle her.

Moved every 6 months for no goddamn reason.
Middle and high school was a 2 hour bus ride one way everyday, because largest county in nation, and I had good grades used to hide black inner city school failures. So school friends where never seen outside of school.
My first and only birthday party was at 18.

The only girl I looked across a room at and thought was cute HAD MY FUCKING MOTHERS NAME. But I had no mobility to pursue anyway.

Now I'm a 35yo wizard, and literaly have no time for social life because I drive a semi. Even though I have an IQ that was measured last year at 139, my BMI is under 20, i'm not ugly, I've saved every penny for 7 years, no debt, and I'm 5'11, people treat me like I'm worse than dog shit.
Merely because I'm a white male I've been told I'm evil my entire life.

God genuinely sabotages me. I've even tried talking to over 100 people on /soc/ to setup an irl date since I'm fucking mobile and can show up literaly wherever and whenever. AND FUCKING NOTHING.

I get off to the idea of someone genuinly wanting me, because it's so unrealistic. I don't even know how that would feel, or how to reciprocate.
I haven't been able to cry in 5 years, god I need to ugly cry.

I've prayed for my mothers death, and/or to die in my sleep for the last 2 decades. Neiter has happened, and the bitch is fucking 75 and drove literaly everyone away.

My criteria are literaly:
Not mentaly ill
Not morbidly obese
Not malicious
Not a mizer

What did I do to deserve this hell?

Could be worse you could be almost 29 and suddenly realize you want a wife kids and a family and that you're ugly and autistic with a shitty job and it's fucking over

>>34095487
Cant you go SEA route?

>>34079019
why am i not allowed to be happy?

>>34078952
It's over. We fucked up. Unfortunately the world is hyper competitive and will leave losers in the dust. Like the good samaritans they are. You really can't make any mistakes in life, especially early on. Money and the pursuit of vast material wealth is all that matters.

>>34079418
You've never been dealt a bad hand in life. I'm the same as him at 32, only within the last couple months have I had decent life circumstances to get with women.

>>34095517
just wanna hop in to say that SEA is not a cheat code for getting women. it will be easier but still takes a lot of effort.
my advice for SEAmaxxing is pick a country, stick to that country, learn the language and start assimilating. get a job there with the intent to stay there long-term. otherwise it will be hard to actually get a wife. although you definitely can find a girl who speaks english fluently, i still recommend what i said to make it easier to meet more girls.

>>34086837
Eh I'd probably date you. I'm a fat chick though.

>>34095472
the fuck is this incel posting bro, if you have money just start asking people out

you are meming im sure but still

>>34095682
>helicopter parents
>meme
Its more common than you think. My mother forbid relationships till 16 but by then I didnt have any experience and I eventually ended up as a khv in mid 30s.

>>34095743
no one has experience at 16 lol you had 20 years to learn, don't blame this on your mom

>>34095517
becoming a passport bro seems like a horrible decision if you want more than just a regular fuck with a hot young chick

To me it seems these chicks are chasing money over everything so as soon as they figure out you’re actually not that wealthy they’re just gonna dump you for another foreigner with money
either that or get the green card and then leave you

>>34095752
>no one has experience at 16 lol
anon... you cannot be serious. Im a turbovirgin but Im not blind. It was extremely common for a 13-14 year old girls to lose v-cards with slightly older guys.

>>34095774
so fucking what? how does that exclude you from trying with people? did you see the blog that guy wrote? its all deflecting his agency and woe is me posting
how the fuck does helicopter parenting work when you're an adult

Why do you people think he should date his age and not go for 17-22 young women to make up?

>>34095640
Why not go back to High School or College to make up? What's stopping you? Seriously.

>>34092693
Nta but what a strawman statement dude, you're absolutely useless and a faggot

>>34079418
I was approached by women twice, once in school and once in college. Both times I couldn't fathom why they would do that. I never wanted to date and still don't though.
However "just approach her" is retarded advice. You know full well half the anons in these sorts of threads would either have nothing to say or would sperg out about their autistic hobbies, and that's not gonna help them at all.

>>34096196
Because it forces him into a paradox that he can't escape. For there is not a single 30+ year old woman on gods green earth that would date a 34 year old khhv.

>>34096178
He carries all those behaviors in him now, he's merely explaining the reason as to why he is the way he is now. I understand it because I'm the same.
>>34096196
Yeah if he's not in that life stage then it's better to date in your life stage. For example I'm 29 and still a student, with debt, 29 year old girls have a degree, a job, and a place to live usually. Sometimes a car too. I for sure cannot date one of them so it's more fitting I date a student

>>34096240
>Yeah if he's not in that life stage then it's better to date in your life stage. For example I'm 29 and still a student, with debt, 29 year old girls have a degree, a job, and a place to live usually. Sometimes a car too. I for sure cannot date one of them so it's more fitting I date a student

Exactly, life stage is more important. Age is a proxy, I'm in a similar boat.

>>34079418
Life happens, your body is a biological machine that breaks down easily. I lost my 20s to bad health and now I'm back.

>>34096240
>>34096257
nah, you're being fucking gay

>>34095682
You can't escape your own mind.
That's what was sabotaged.

>>34096178
>deflecting his agency
Brah, my agency was fucking killed in the womb. Now people treat me like a cripple, because I am, it just takes a while for them to notice and don't even have to be conscious of it. It's only that the damage was to the brain and not directly that you feel justified repeating the abuse. You might change but you don't recover.

All I get to do Is observe people, and let me pount out: winners don't actually understand how they won, not in any way they can communicate to another, and they enjoy abusing others. Absolutely none of them know how to actually negotiate because they never have to, they just won. You want to see a tantrum? Watch how they behave when anyone, let alone reality itself says no to them. You tell me I have no excuse, so what's theirs?

I've worked hard to get away and stable from that hell. Now I find "adults" piling more on.

>Just socialize bro
I was once at a Arcade bar to intentionally do that with a topic I might share interst with another patron. Just a middling restaurant filled with old and new arcade machines literaly targeted at 20-30 year olds, my age range. I was a patron sitting at the bar, eating a meal I had ordered.

The fucking woman that sat me there, came up and ask me to move for a party in the middle of my meal. I moved one seat over as she asked.

Then they didn't even use the seat I moved from. Didn't order, and sat there for maybe 5 min. I didn't stink, I didn't harass them. I just was an easy target of abuse.

There are a million things just under that threshold that happen like that all the time. You start to notice them once you have one go over the threshold.

A child at the bar wanted me to play the arcades with him out of the blue. His parents gave me a stink eye and it killed me to tell him no.

Tell me it's my fault asshole.

>>34096336
nigger i had herpes simplex encephalitis at 3 weeks old
i should be completely munted and emotional control is a bad point for me, but i just re adjusted as a 25 y/o and slowly learned how to not be as fucking crazy and generally being the idea of a good person makes you noticed

>>34096359
oh so this is a botted thread, thats fun

There is a reason solitary confinement is an especially crule punishment. Now do that to a person for their entire childhood and tell me it's their fault for being a social cripple, and anything that will change the damage done to them.

>>34096373
>the idea of a good person
You're not really demonstrating that here

>>34096373
>open a wound to give a personal example
>get called a bot by a guy telling everyone he's a good guy that claims he made it out
Why are you here?

>>34096373
So if someone takes longer than you, they aren't worth it?

>>34096302
He's correct.

>>34096224
How is that a strawman you fucking imbecile?
The first anon (correctly) told the second to focus on building a regular normal social life, and the second anon responded with his cold approach diary.
"Cold approach" is the exact opposite of regular socializing, the whole point is to build a life where you don't NEED to do that to begin with. I don't know what you braindead niggers don't understand about that.

>>34096383
do you want to wallow in misery or git gud faggot?

>>34096394
nobody said that

>>34096198
Who said I didn’t go to college? Again life will fuck you up and spit you out in ways you haven't imagined

>i was told to sit somewhere else at a bar
>yes, this is why i'm now a turbovirgin at 35
lol, lmao even

>>34096905
It was just an example

>>34096750
That's exactly what you said