>>34084103
Break up? Why did she even tell you. I think she wants to break up with you. What a fucked up bitch. Im sorry anon

>>34084103
Sorry I wish I could help you but my wife and I were virgins when we met. We had sex before marriage (we could only wait until we were engaged because the wedding was like 3 weeks away and we just couldn't wait any longer) but both of us lost our virginities to each other. I can't even imagine being with a woman knowing she was a whore who got dicked down by other men and liked it. Sorry bro.

>her past consists of 4 horrible exes and now a fuckbuddy
Soon to be 5 horrible exes. Where did you find this fine specimen and what made you want her as your gf?

>>34084103
>My gf (my first and only gf) told me she had a fuck buddy
Dealbreaker in itself, no further information needed. Absolutely retarded of you to ask about dick size.
Also, if you're having sex outside of marriage, this is exactly the whore you signed up for.

>>34084103
Two sides to every coin, anon.

I was that fuck buddy. I'd go over to this girl's house every week at 1am to hang out and fuck her brains out, and then she'd kick me out. She never talked about me with her friends and family. She would never flirt or acknowledge our intimacy via text, because she didn't want anything in writing. It felt like shit. And guess what? I got attached, I wanted more, I pitched the idea of a relationship, and she broke things off and never spoke to me again.

Sex doesn't mean the same thing to chicks as it does to guys. The idea that she fucked around with some hung dude has you devastated. For her, it was a fun few years milking a guy who she probably regarded as a loser. Now she's with you.

You're her boyfriend; she would NEVER have given that title to the other dude. Consider that.

>>34084269
I see your point and from that perspective you're right, but it still eats me up inside.

>>34084269
>some woman who lowers yourself beneath the level of literal garbage likes you
>this is supposed to be a good thing
I really hate this timeline

>>34084349
Gtfo of my thread

>>34084269
total blue pill take, trying to be humble brag
you arent hung and girls get way more attached by sex and you pretty much are just some degenerate tinder retard in all likelihood, a chicken who found a pea once basically

>>34084349
Yeah, I get it anon. The thing is, it's not like what you're imagining. She didn't wake up every day having soaked her bedsheets thinking about getting fucked by this stud. She didn't think about him at all, unless she was feeling horny. 99% of the time she was ignoring his texts and fielding his calls, because she didn't even see him as a friend. When she would reach out to get fucked, he'd LEAP at the opportunity, because he had no other prospects and had somehow lucked into the position of being occasionally thrown a bone by this chick who didn't even really like him.

I understand the penis envy thing. It sucks. But also understand that this guy's life was shit, and is probably even shittier now that you took his girl in a way he never could.

>>34084378
...Yeah, that's my point dude. That this guy haunting OP's imagination wasn't living the dream.

>>34084386
>it's not like what you're imagining.
I'm not OP, and I'm not imagining anything. You told me that she had casual sex. I don't give a singular shit what her thought process was. Whether she felt guilty, indifferent, or was proudly using a guy she hated is utterly irrelevant to me. The casual sex is what makes her worthless, period.

>>34084371
that's totally possible but it's also possible they were copacetic or she actually wanted him. Most girls just want a guy with a big dick like they even refer to you as their dick.

It's all pretty fucked up but at the same time you are a total baby op because if she was idk not a general whore, like not literally selling her body for sex, then she's pretty much just a normal person like normal people have fuck buddies, sorry to break it to you but most people who are maintaining their sanity are doing so by going over to some random bitches house they know once a week and fucking them and then leaving. Even as fuck buddies you might still have a pretty solid relationship like you guys only fuck each other and it's just going to last until you find someone else. Now, your gf has found you and it's just a fact that even if you did bone 1500 girls you still might judge her bc that's how guys are but, you could have had as much fun as her and then would at least not feel like she's done something so out of the ordinary. Truth is, even a wife is just a womb, and you are just a sperm donor. If she really likes you like way too much, or if you like her basically at all, shit's fucked. You are supposed to be the guy, that means basically your path is the path. As soon as you start liking a girl you start favoring her despite reality and you should never disregard reality, go work out bitch fr it ups your testosterone

>>34084103
I don't care what anybody ITT says, having a fuck buddy of any kind is a HUGE red flag for a woman. If she liked sex so much without caring about the guy then she could have just had sex within relationships.
It's unrealistic to expect every girl to be some untouched flower before you meet her, but there are enough options out there that if you don't feel comfortable having a girl who had a "fuckbuddy" (guy she met up with just to get plowed) then you are under no obligation to stay with her.
Also young man, I hope you learned a valuable lesson to not go snooping into your GF's past and asking questions you don't want to hear the answer to. Or just find a virgin with no past next time.

>>34084411
This cryptic shit doesn't help at all
Wtf is your actual advice in this specific context?

>>34084477
What valuable lesson?
Are you saying a man should live in ignorance?

>>34084485
>Are you saying a man should live in ignorance?
It is bliss after all
But seriously, maybe OP could have lived with the fuckbuddy thing if he didn't go out of his own way to ask if the guy was hanging salami. You don't want to get facts like that in your head, like little rats gnawing at your subconscious.

>>34084103
Trust is a reasonable expectation from a relationship sexual or not. This would erode the trust in any relationship instantly but dont let it erode trust externally in attempt to cope.

The way you describe her telling you is cold, no matter if thats how she said it or thats how you perceived it. Love isnt cold. Love may be blunt and it may not always feel warm and sometimes it will do things the other wont like but even still love always considers how actions effect the other. The details you gave hints she in some way was looking to twist the knife. You dont have to accept that fucked up version of love if thats not the love you want.

So now that im done "being soft" ima say the obligatory "just be a man" but please read this. When I say that i dont mean ignore it with a smile until you find a liquor store. I mean reflect with yourself honestly about what comes next so you and your loved ones to prosper in life. Things like "I wish it would end" or "I just want out" are not reflection. Those emotions are natural and ok but its important that you recognize they are only useful as a signal to keep reflecting. Choosing to act on emotions alone will always result in regret. The human condition is something you cant change. When I say "just be a man" I mean accept a new truth for what it is even if that means carrying a burden. Reflection is done not to feel the pain but to consider every action thats you will take next in an effort to protect yourself and your loved ones, health, mental state, and prosperity. Sometimes you have to rebuild when you did nothing wrong because thats what you can control and effect. "just be a man" never meant bottle it until vodka unbottles it and you have to pay your wifes hospital bills and a court fee but not everyone gets it. Merry Christmas, take real time on something this impactful, if she wont give you that, include that in the sped up reflection. Her actions here seem fucked up.

>>34084103
So, he was her fuck buddy, and that's all he ever was to her. She was his fuck buddy, and that's all she ever was to him. You're her boyfriend; she's your girlfriend; the two of you are vastly more to each other than she and he ever were. Would you really prefer to be less to her? Would you really prefer her to be less to you? If not, what are you envious of?

>>34084513
I am the op
If I didn't ask I would just replay the possibility in my head anyway

>>34084516
This might sound strange to polyamorous redditors like you but some people value sex and hold it sacred, which is actually a healthy attitude that has moved civilization forward.
A woman's snatch is literally her most prized possession and valuable asset. If women didn't have vaginas they'd just be weaker, dumber men. Saying "oh I just gave my most valuable asset, my most precious treasure to someone I didn't even care about" is as thoughtless as giving some homeless guy your family's most valuable heirloom and saying it doesn't matter because you don't actually care about the homeless guy, you just wanted to give it away to someone.

>>34084103
dump, if a woman has ever once ever had a hookup, let alone a fk buddy, shes sex only category, not relationship category. Keep her for easy access to sex for now but start looking for her replacement, the same way women do to us.

Your not wrong for feeling disturbed.

She went to his house
Weekly
For two years
No commitment
No effort
No investment from him

Put her back where you found her.
Go to the gym.
Build your life.
Read “No More Mr. Nice Guy.”
And don’t date projects.

Id bet your a nice guy, likely single mother or weak/absent father. Your self esteem is lacking, this girl probably approached you. Gave you some sob story about her dating pattern, your inner child kicks in, want to be a good boy and protect hee from her poor choices. Its okay, but if you dont fix it, you will be like her, with a pattern of low self esteem women, loose women who drain you like parasites, financially, emotionally.

>>34084269
>>34084386
>>34084516
>>34084532
Better analogy, his gf having sex with some guy she doesn't even care about would be like OP taking his grandmother's prized diamond wedding ring and letting a hooker wear it when he's supposed to be giving it to his wife.

>>34084514
Well she said it because I asked, I said (naively believing) we shouldn't have secrets and just be able to openly communicate. When she told me about it, she said she did is just because she didn't want to get involved with anything because of her life back then, she just wanted something without all the complications of a relationship building in that time or something like that. She said she regrets it and wishes er had met years earlier so I'd be her first and that she doesn't like remembering her past.
I do believe her but inside me there are sides that are conflicting on this issue, one side is like fucking hell my gf actually went out of her way to go to a guy with a big dick and handsome looks (she told me) just so he would literally fucked and cum inside her, and with all those memories and experiences she's now with me, it feels like a part of her is taken from me. The other side of me is like she was younger and dumber and her parents were absent, she could have done a lot worse in that situation than the same guy.
But idk I just feel like shit. It also feels like is it fair for me to convince myself to be okay with this? Is that enlightenment or just lowering myself? I never did any of that, she's my first gf and before her I only had sex once drunk and regretted it and didn't even feel good because it was a random girl and I don't even remember that shit. But I also went out of my way to avoid fucking around with random sluts

>>34084103
I'm in a similar situation, except I never asked to know about her past, but now I know it.
She's also my first and only, but I'm going to change that. My way of coping will be to get my numbers up on the side. It's not ideal, but I don't care about morality anymore.

>>34084539
I can't change myself into a piece of shit exploiting a woman who's actually in love with me. Just because of what she did doesn't mean I will allow myself to become a count that uses her feeling just for sex

>>34084562
I don't think I can live with the guilt of being a cheater

>>34084514
> Love may be blunt and it may not always feel warm and sometimes it will do things the other wont like but even still love always considers how actions effect the other.
Any real life example?

>>34084532
>If women didn't have vaginas they'd just be weaker, dumber men.
I agree with most of your post, but stop with the uno-reverse incel feminism. Women and men aren't the same. There is strength in femininity, and it's distinct from masculine strength.

>>34084556
> before her I only had sex once drunk
>I also went out of my way to avoid fucking around with random sluts
Mate...
This is only a difference of degree, not substance. Yes, it hurts, but you signed up for this with all of your choices.

>>34084556
>my gf actually went out of her way to go to a guy with a big dick and handsome looks (she told me) just so he would literally fucked and cum inside her
As opposed to what? Would you have expected her to go out of her way to have sex with a man she wasn't attracted to?

>>34084556
>it feels like a part of her is taken from me
What part is that?

>I only had sex once drunk and regretted it and didn't even feel good because it was a random girl and I don't even remember that shit.
So you fucked around with a random slut? Okay.
>But I also went out of my way to avoid fucking around with random sluts
Except that you just admitted that you didn't.

I think you're just mad because you wanted to have more casual sex with random sluts and you couldn't. You're angry at her because she had more opportunities than you.

>>34084593
What did I sign up for? Wtf are you talking about?
>>34084594
I would have wished she didn't give away her pussy for a guy she didn't even want to be in a relationship with to fuck and cum inside of
Wtf do you not understand

>>34084600
Stop twisting my words.
Only once did I fuck someone else in my life because after so many years of being a virgin I just wanted to get it over with.
How is that the same as casual weekly sex for years

>>34084617
By fuck I mean we got naked I put a condom on, tried to put it in but I felt like shit, didn't get hard and left within 5min

>>34084617
>Stop twisting my words
You're the one who said you fucked a random girl while drunk. You actually used the word "random", you disgusting whore.

>>34084617
>How is that the same as casual weekly sex for years
It's not the same. It's far worse.

>>34084628
I'm not falling for your shit tier trolling

>>34084556
Let me ask because im now not sure yall were together when she was meeting him?

If you werent together when she was meeting him man your in your head. You cant ask someone who didnt know you to be faithful to you. If its about the "fuck buddy" thing man women want to fuck too. I aint ever fucked a girl who hasnt eventually gotten under my skin wanting to fuck more than I do because I got a life and shit to do and build. I say that not to say i would then be ok with them stepping out but to say this idea that guys are hornier than girls is some weird fucking shit idek where it came from maybe middle age men who cant get their wife to put out because a smut book satisfies better than he does idk. all im saying if she did this before yall were together and felt comfortable telling you when you asked and this wasnt her telling you to make you feel some type of way about it or a cheating thing honestly man why hold that against her. She had a life b4 you all you can ask is that the life with you is totally with you building something together. im telling you that tingle you get in your dick when you see a nice rack man. girls get that shit too and some even when they see a rack but we aint gotta go there. thats natural but all you can ask for is commitment now and if she is giving that to you and you feel she love you your over thinking this alot.

again context matters. im starting to think you asked these things about if he dumped in her and man you gotta let go the past and look at now. Trust me ive been in long term relationships with girls from full blown freaks to virgin church girls and not a single one wasnt a freak moments after that first rondevous so sexual drive is normal commitment is unatural and if shes faithful and you love her and she loves you value that shit man

>>34084612
>I would have wished she didn't give away her pussy
I think you'll find she still has her pussy, anon, and it's still in very good condition. In what sense did she "give it away"?

>>34084519
so far you've told us you're incredibly insecure and you spend a lot of time thinking about men's cocks.
>Please tell me how to actually cope with this, without the usually "just be a man" bullshit.
Sorry I can't, you've just rejected the actual cure which is to get over yourself and stop thinking about men's cocks.
Merry Christmas.

>>34084631
Which part of you fucking a "random girl" while drunk is something you didn't just admit to doing, and admitted to using those precise words?

>>34084103
So, you were expecting her to wait for you, at a time when she didn't yet know you existed?

>>34084103
>She's in love with me and I believe that,


ugggh

>>34084269
>You're her boyfriend; she would NEVER have given that title to the other dude. Consider that.


simp talk

>>34084617
You had casual sex. She had casual sex. She just did it more.
Get over yourself, retard.

>>34084632
Yeah it was years before we met. And yes I know I should focus on our relationship now, but knowing that shit makes me feel like shit.
>>34084641
No, I wasn't expecting her to have had a fuckbuddy for years. I was expecting her to have had a normal relationship instead

>>34084573
Sure man I mean my current relationships have been dwindled down to people who emulate that value. Its not that everything they do is for me or that they wouldnt do something against my wishes but that I can trust they wont go do something that could affect me without considering that possibility first and talking to me before doing it if they still feel like its what they should do.

Like I can take my girl to a bar and turn my back and she wont be off chatting with a guy or dancing with one when I turn around and weve been a thousand times. If a guy starts talking to her she doesnt always kill the converstation if she doesnt have to but she will always walk over to where i am at so that she is holding my arm while the guy talks to her. That example is just one i think relates to this but it applies to everything in life with someone you actually love you consider them in everything to some degree. Idk i value that over pretty much everything even past life shit. Some people call it loyalty but I think sometimes loyalty implies a bit of subserviance not present in love as I am describing it

>>34084657
Op here I do know that I have that with my gf. I know for sure she's not interested in other guys since she's been with me

>>34084632
>You cant ask someone who didnt know you to be faithful to you.
You can expect them to live the values you want them to share with you. In effect, being faithful to the ideal of a relationship rather than to you in particular.

OP's problem is that he is a hypocrite and asked irrelevant questions out of insecurity. But judging past behavior, in itself, isn't wrong.

>>34084651
Well man. Its still up to you at the end of the day. You dont have to accept something that you feel isnt right. Word of caution sounds like this is an internal problem not a her problem and an emotional one at that. My advise still stands actions based on emotions are almost always regretable. Id still say reflect on it but I would tread lightly around saying or doing things with her until you get through the mess in your mind. Dont regret nuking something good over an emotion you hadnt figured out yet. I get it man nothing wrong with holding sex to a high value its not unusual to feel that way I do too but you have to decide if thats really what this is or if you are conflating a bit of insecurity or fear and lying to yourself about it because you dont want to admit that to yourself. She sounds like she went out on a ledge for you when you asked knowing it would end badly but doing it because you asked and in response she got the result she feared. Its normal but "just be a man" and dont expect when you get through this that she will be ready to pick you up from that emotional whiplash because likely you have created some emotional whiplash she is also having to process. Devils advocate you asked her to trust you and be honest she did and you are holding it against her in return. Im not actually accusing you of that but put yourself in her shoes for a second and youll see why i put that out there. If she really loves you and you feel that and she is not the cause of this insecurity man dont feel bad for feeling these fears but dear fucking god dont let yourself hurt her while figuring that out by blaming her. youll regret that.

>>34084648
I mean it's true. If the other guy could've locked her down, he would have. Relationships aren't ahegao faces 24/7.

Having a fuck buddy is awesome, but one party always gets devastated in the end. Relationships are mostly not very sexy after the initial honeymoon phase, but you get emotional stability out of them. Grass is always greener, I suppose.

>>34084676
yeah i agree with your assesment to a degree because if it was a value it would have been addressed long before the emotional investment of this post and I am considering that in the way I am posting my comments somewhat. If it was a hard value he probably wouldnt have given this girl time of day to start and I think it is a bit of fear or insecurity that either the girl is sewing in the relationship or he inherently has and he probably needs to reflect on that himself and work through that

>>34084556
>I only had sex once drunk and regretted it and didn't even feel good because it was a random girl and I don't even remember that shit.
Do you seriously not get that this is WORSE than what she did? She gave away her pussy; you gave away your dick; but at least she was *selective* about who she gave it to; she didn't fuck a RANDOM guy while she was drunk.

>>34084651
>knowing that shit makes me feel like shit.
That's your problem, not hers.

>>34084269
>You're her boyfriend; she would NEVER have given that title to the other dude. Consider that.
the problem is women, especially unfaithful women do not follow this line of thinking.

>>34084103
>who didn't even have to do shit for her to go over there for him to fuck


Seems like the core of the issue. Why would you need to do aynthing for a woman to come over and fuck if she likes you? Any woman who isn't down to hang out and have sex simply because she likes being around me would never ever be considered as a gf.

>>34084553
>would be like OP taking his grandmother's prized diamond wedding ring and letting a hooker wear it

Holy Beta cringe, could you be any more pathetic? Just because you losers consider a wet hole to be a holy sacrament to be given only to the worthy doesn't mean that women do.
Also, that diamond ring is worth maybe 10 bucks in material value the second it leaves the shop, they are a scam for turbosimps like you.
Your kind of retard is what gets women to lie and faff around about having sex because "men" like you will pearl clutch like spinster grannies if a woman ever uses her sexual organs for their intended purpose instead of larping as a nun.

>>34084670
OP, I normally dont get this direct with life advice but im gonna be honest I have a feeling your gonna look back on this one day and realize your prioritizing the wrong things. If shes faithful, she lifts you up, she loves you you should hold on to that. My opinion that is just so much more valuable than the body count or body history man.

My advice if you can or stay with this girl is get the fuck of 4 chan go find her something she likes weather a movie flowers a book or whatever the fuck and thank her for answering and tell her that she means no less to you than she did this morning. Then fuck the shit out of her. Like seriously make her cum 10 times before your dick is out. IDC if you gotta lock yourself if a bathroom and watch videos on how to find the clit and g spot first. Thats gonna do more for your confidence than anything any of us are gonna say or anything your gonna tell yourself.

The worst result is you dont get through this mentally and in turn she is fearful of trusting you with the most vulnerable parts of her going foward. That will destory a relationship the same way stepping out will because trust is literally fucking everything to being able to build a life with someone because your going to have to be able to trust them with some part of that process.

If you dont stay with her plan to do it soon or smth

>>34084562
I just stumbled into this gem of a turd. The fuck kinda im a piece of shit in a mask who finally got a girl i hate to tolerate me ass take is this. So your thought is sex is precious i fell for someone with a past I cant deal with the fact that I never got to do that so rather than exit the relationship like a man and do my thing honestly or communicate it with the person im building trust with I am going to toss all of my morals away because I cant cope with the fact that other men get play.

I know im exagerating your train of thought but even the way you wrote it there isnt alot of logic being used just un resolved emotion and a lack of recognition that if your first thought was this you probably are the leading cause of your prior virginity

>>34084103
not what u wanna hear but i haven't messed with girls since high school lol

once a year i get a new onahole $400-$800 (they get used up) and im pretty happy idk

i play video games or have fun on pc all day and have ez pz job i work 5-6 days a week for 6-8 hrs

in 5-10 years i plan on having a kid via robot impregnation [this sounds insane now but you will see] https://www.vice.com/en/article/robot-with-artificial-womb-could-give-birth-to-humans-by-next-year/

you dont want to hear the entire "incel" story but idk women have this odd idea of a relationship thats just not interesting personally to me, i read your story and its exactly why i do what i do dunno. fuck all that stuff dude fr.

>>34084773
This guy talks like acunt, but hes right.
I lost my virginity reall ylate as well, but nothing would have been further from my minds than permanently shacking up with the first best rando I stuck my dick in.
OP, you have no experience, no comparison, no basis on which to judge whether shes just some girl or actually your girl.
My advice y´would be to go out and BE the fuckbuddy yourself a few times so you can stop seething about it and shed your insecurities. Beind inexperienced at an older age is tricky, and the best way I found is to make up for lost experiences once you cracked open the issues so your insecurity don't keep hounding you in any actual relationship.

It's nice that you've stepped up to be her provider after she's had her fun. Oh and I'm sure after riding an 8 incher weekly for years your little pecker totally makes her orgasm.

>>34084800
Incels should be castrated and forcibly feminized.

>>34084103
>>34084269
I mean, I get it, (not op btw) but still, this seems wrong to me. I want a devoted girl, one that didn't give out sex like it was hot cakes, and definitely not one who has successfully made the distinction between sex and a committed relationship (love). I think this indicates about her as a person, that she's the type of person to either not want, or not enjoy - attachment.
And that's bad. To me, sex IS love. If you separate the two over and over it means you have some emotional issues, attachment issues. Normal people fuck > get chemicals in their brain > now they want more. They want commitment. If there's no commitment but there's sex - one one the parties is likely suffering because they want something more.
In the rare case that both are okay with it - they're both avoidant and non committal, afraid of commitment for one reason or another.
This is unsafe.
Unsafe for your heart, unsafe for your head. A girl who has done this before will have a much easier time to cheat, and a much easier time to move on from you, because they don't regard sex as something special.

But now there's the question of, what do you do? Clearly, people will tell you to break up, but here's what I'm thinking -
You're going to become incredibly debased if you break up now, I think what you need to do is you need to emotionally get yourself together, start working out, start looking better, make sure you eat well, then look for girls to cheat with. But then, don't actually cheat. Get to a point where you don't feel stressed anymore about losing your gf , and THEN break up with her.
And honestly dude, if you do end up cheating, do it with pride. This bitch would be on another cock THE SAME DAY if you broke up with her today. Do NOT feel bad for bitches, they have extremely easy access to sex - and they use it like I use my credit card on pay day.

So, set up another girl for yourself - THEN break up.

>>34084532
>as thoughtless as giving some homeless guy your family's most valuable heirloom and saying it doesn't matter because you don't actually care about the homeless guy, you just wanted to give it away to someone.
OK? That's not common but that's perfectly fine.
>I'm not materialistic, I want to live minimally
>I don't need my families wealth, everything I have will be something I got myself
You can do that and still be an excellent man. You aren't obligated to value anything the exact way other people do

>>34084103
yeah , so my girlfriend left me for a dude who went to MIT and is a NSA contractor solely because of the status he brings. :( it sucks man

>>34084741
>Muh Beta
off to a great start
>Just because you losers consider a wet hole to be a holy sacrament to be given only to the worthy doesn't mean that women do.
Marriage is literally a sacrament in almost every major world religion
>Also, that diamond ring is worth maybe 10 bucks in material value the second it leaves the shop, they are a scam for turbosimps like you.
Missing the analogy, you are fucking retarded aren't you?
>if a woman ever uses her sexual organs for their intended purpose
Ok so where are all the babies? The intended purpose of sexual organs is reproduction, not being a toy to play with and let men dig around in for fun.

>>34084103
Just you wait until she stops wanting sex as often and you start wondering if she's gottebn bored and is thinking of the good old dicking that other guy used to give her. It will happen. It's only a matter of time before it does and it's a horrible feeling.

>>34084833
I'm sorry brother. Welcome to the pill side where we realize that women just seek a man constantly and cannot be alone. And sometimes, they look for an upgrade so they cheat

>>34084103
>I could barely breathe as I actually felt like I had a lump in my throat
You are weak

>>34084995
I have no idea why you fags insist on a world view that makes things so hard on yourself.
I get that pussy appears to be really hard to get when you're younger, and the realization that women actually throw it around all the time if they like you may cause some initial resentment.
But eventuall yyou have to get over it, grow up and accept that women are not that different from men, they like to fuck, simple as.
All you achieve with your attitude is women lying their asses off once they sense you're taht kind of guy, and thats it. Enjoy your seething.
>Marriage is literally a sacrament in almost every major world religion
Yeah , so is sacrificing humans, or burning people alive , or scourging yourself and all kinds of nonsense. Like cutting your dick off was considered a major symbolic act to get closer to God, wanna do that too?Those times are over.

>>34084995
>off to a great start

Also yes, your mindset sets you up to be the kind of gigasimp who literally begs crumbs of pussy from his own gf because he believes its something so holy and rare that it cannot simply be given because she likes you, but because you appropriately simped first.
If the world actually followed your ideas, we would all be sexless gooners in perpertuity who maybe get to "do it for England" once a year if we're really lucky.
Thank God that women enjoy sex, or the world would be dogshit.

So yeah, I'm calling you a Beta becaus ethe only peopel your worldview holds any appeal to are either full blown incels or the kind of Beta who can snatch a curmb of pussy once every blue moon. Cope&seethe.

>>34084995
>Marriage is literally a sacrament in almost every major world religion

"pussy no good after seal broken bcoz god told me so"

Nta but holy shit, dude.

You understand the whole concept of the maidenhead was cooked up by old world stooges in order to ensure the purity of their line, right? Do you also want to bring back bedding ceremonies where your entire family watches you fumble around with your scared virgin bride?

>Ok so where are all the babies? The intended purpose of sexual organs is reproduction, not being a toy to play with and let men dig around in for fun.

Sex organs create two things, babies and orgasms. The two used to be interlinked, but we've since learned to decouple them to create pleasure separate from procreation. It's not 'immoral' or whatever and the only people who think that are weird racial puritans obsessed with bloodlines, who are still trying to scare idiots into faith with visions of fire and brimstone. They don't actually keep any religion themselves, of course, but they know idiots like you will pick up the line and run with it as a smokescreen for your intense insecurity and phobia of sex.

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>>34085273

Op here, I've got a lot of thinking to do.
No on just this but wtf I want from life.
Thanks for the people who have actual advice and thoughts. Middle finger to the retarded cunt telling me I'm as bad as her and to the marriage is holy nonsense.
I'm gonna think a lot and have a serious conversation with her once I know what I wanna say

>>34085273
>>34085266
>>34085258
The guy you're replying to isn't op btw

>>34084594
I NEED TO GET FUCKED BIWEEKLY BY A STRANGER ITS OK THE BODY COUNT IS 1

>>34084103
I literally don’t know what my wife’s body count is. I never asked. I never asked specifically for this reason, I don’t want to know any shit like this.

>>34084103
>She's in love with me and I believe that
anon, "your" gf is jumping on another man's dick

>>34084269
>You're her boyfriend; she would NEVER have given that title to the other dude. Consider that.

A woman wrote this, the story above it is completely fabricated

>>34085273
>hedonist cope

>>34085311
Update us after you talk to her, OP. I'm actually very interested and invested in how the story unfolds.

>>34084103
>Please tell me how to actually cope with this
>I don't wanna end up kms on fucking christmas
You should detach yourself emotionally and use her only to satisfy your sexual needs while she still gives you sex.
Use her for money. Get her to pay your rent, groceries, utilities, etc. Make her buy you stuff.
Once she starts denying sex because she's looking at other men like the whore she is, dump her.
Basically, demote her to a FWB. As the saying goes, she was never your girlfriend, it was just your turn.

It should be needless to say, but I'll say it to you just in case: you are completely justified in feeling and thinking the way you do. It is the most natural for a man to be utterly disgusted at cuckoldry and detest an unfaithful woman, particularly when that woman doesn't give you the same benefits she gave other men (such as actively seeking him for sex, while making you work for it).
You were naive and foolish, but you are wiser now. For with much wisdom comes much sorrow,
and as knowledge grows, grief increases.
The ones telling you otherwise are literal cucks or jews trying to brainwash you or poor mediocre men coping hard.

>>34084103
She most likely allowed him to do things to her that you're not alowed because she "doesn't enjoy it anymore". Such as anal and fucking in risky places like a park bench, or gazebo.
If she ever gets asked by her female friends what the weirdest and most fun place she's had sex in is, she won't be recalling the time she did it with you.

>>34084108
Because he asked and pried and wanted to know. And it wasn't enough to be told about the fuckbuddy, no he explicitly wanted to know about the size of the dude's dick. And now he's sad. And maybe he learned a lesson not to ask questions that he wouldn't want to hear the answer to. I will never understand why people are so keen on knowing about their partners past dick they took or holes they pumped. I would never bother to ask these things.

>>34085325
She was faithful to one guy for years. How is that a problem?

>>34086180
>I will never understand why people are so keen on knowing about their partners past dick they took or holes they pumped.
Because it's a man's most basic instinct not to want to be a cuck.
>I would never bother to ask these things.
Because you know you would feel like the cuck you are.

>>34086222
She won't do the same for anon and she'll always be thinking about him.

>>34084103
Welcome brother....we've been waiting for you

https://youtu.be/WxGUcg0-0OE?si=Gc1MEwZUcQ4L4cpI

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>>34086238

>Because it's a man's most basic instinct not to want to be a cuck.

He kind of guaranteed himself cuck status now by asking though. Spoil the future for yourself, keep thinking about BBC in all your future relationships.

>>34086308
How is purposefully living in ignorance not cuckoldry?

>>34084269
Nah faggot, I'm the real side dude. Your blue pill ass wanted more and didn't get it so now you're coping as if the other guy is the real winner. OP imma be real with you, dump her. I've been the side guy and I enjoyed every second of getting free pussy with minimum effort, I never cared if she got a bf or wanted to break things off, I just always found it comical that the new "serious" guy has to bust his ass and nuts just to achieve what was a normal Tuesday for me. You're a fool if you don't leave her

>>34084556
>I only had sex once drunk and regretted it and didn't even feel good because it was a random girl and I don't even remember that shit
Stop whining. Her memories probably mean as much to her, as yours do to you. Only virgins like me should be allowed to complain

>>34084103
I'm sorry anon, for what it's worth this is an event basically all men go through in their life. I went through it, you are going through it, and most of the people reading this have or will go through it (or they just don't know).

Some important points I've learned:
1. Never, ever ask your girl about her past. If you're happy with how she is when you meet her, and there are no red flags, then accept her as is. Also, women can change a lot, and the woman she was back then may not be who she is now.
2. You are inexperienced, she is experienced. That's why it hurts. As you get older and gain more experience, knowing about FWB stuff or stuff like this will be less meaningful.
3. Your pain ultimately stems from insecurity. The best way to get over this insecurity is to tackle it. I went through the same pain you went through, and it was so bad it pushed me to the gym. 3 years later and I'm pretty built and muscular and now I'm the one who has girls coming over to fuck... which brings me to the next point
4. Now that I have girls coming over to fuck, I no longer care if a woman has done this kind of FWB stuff in her past. I'm obviously attractive enough to fuck, so I'm already equal with whatever FWB she had in her past in that sense, but on top of that I have emotional bandwidth to offer them which is really important. You can build a way stronger emotional and physical connection when you are close with someone; no FWB relationship she had before compares

The pain goes away eventually anon, I promise. I do recommend you probably end it with her though because it's hard to look at her the same after; you need more experience. Now pick yourself up and go to the gym. You got this.

>>34084103
shes still seeing him dont kid yourself

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Following up on my post >>34086517

>>34084269
This anon also has a great point - not all FWB relationships are the woman relentlessly chasing after the love of Chad like you are probably imagining. Women choose a good-looking guy off a dating app to fuck, and honestly they may not even like their personality, they just literally want a dick to fuck them while they look for their serious relationship, because like men, women desire intimacy. I mean if you were lonely and horny and could have a hot chick over whenever you wanted, wouldn't you?

Learning how to have good sex isn't hard. Listen to your partner, ask them what they like, and also work out so you have virility and energy during sex. You can fuck her just as good as any other FWB in her past has, except with an emotional connection on top that she didn't have with an FWB, you have now given her something addictive and irreplaceable which can never compare to her fucking some random guy.

picrel, I basically did this transformation but naturally - doubled my test from 350 ng/dl to 650 ng/dl with daily resistance training, proper diet and good sleep (bed at 10 PM every day). It literally changed my entire face and obviously my body too.

If you're worried about Chad, become Chad

You can't control people OP. You're stuck in the mentality kings and queens had during the Renaissance where if a woman does not stay faithful to her husband she must be put to death. That is old age crap. What happens now is that you have the freedom to do what you want and she does as well. Unless you are both married, there is nothing you can do to change it. If this guy being harcore impresses your girlfriend, so what, it ain't your issue. Go find a girlfriend who does, or try to be hardcore like that guy. You essentially don't live in a world where your voice matters okay. It's a sad reality but the moment you make peace with the fact that you can only control yourself to the point of where you have to go fish and hunt for your food the better. If you can't, and well you're there needing to rely on people through everything, you're gonna be miserable. Look at all the anons in this thread, half of them are miserable because women do this to them. They have no taken my idea which is to find peace being alone. They may think they're smart in how they convince people things and see reality for what it is, but they don't have the balls to leave their house and go do something with their life. You do not want to be like them. They're gonna die miserably alone compared to someone like me who will die when he is fishing on a boat, which is a hell of a lot more happier than that crap. Be happy being alone and stop giving yourself reasons not to do things, because if you do that enough you'll be a NEET forever.

>>34086242
Women never really let go of their first love, but they've let go of their first fuck by the following morning. And the fact that she does not fuck around and has had only one previous partner is the most positive evidence you could have for her staying faithful now. Stop seething.

>>34084103
It's very clear, OP, that you're not actually angry at her at all, you're angry at HIM. You're angry because he was better looking than you. You're angry because his dick was bigger than yours. You're angry because a woman was willing to make the journey to his house just to have sex with him. You're angry (I suspect) because you desperately wanted to be able to have casual sex in the way that he did, and you couldn't, and you're jealous of him. And because you can't do anything about the fact that he's better looking and better endowed than you, you're taking it out on your girlfriend instead.

Realise who you're really angry with. If he makes you feel sexually inadequate, that's your fault, not hers. Stop punishing her for your own shortcomings.

>>34084103
oh hahaha
that just makes me laugh
nonchalant whoring like that is simply hilarious to me especially when there's some clueless sap on the other end

>>34086238
Healthy people aren't interested in other men's dicks

>>34086308
>if I close my eyes I'm not a cuck
Fucking kek
>>34086310
This.
>>34086556
>And the fact that she does not fuck around and has had only one previous partner is the most positive evidence you could have for her staying faithful now
And women lie.
>Stop seething.
No one here is seething. I'm simply stating facts and answering OP's questions.
>>34086793
Neither is OP. What he really wanted to know, as mentioned before, is his gf's slut status.

>>34086611
This is a woman projecting as always.
Men don't get angry at men who are superior, we often are indifferent or admiring and want to emulate them instead. Only women start seething out of envy and seek to drag other women down to their level.

>>34087040
>And women lie.
Sure. Any woman who claims to be a virgin is definitely lying. OP's gf is a bit more likely to be telling the truth.

>>34087041
>This is a woman projecting as always.
I'm a guy, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

OP's problem is pretty obvious though: he's seething because he feels unattractive and sexually inadequate, and he's taking it out on his gf.

>>34087041
>Men don't get angry at men who are superior, we often are indifferent or admiring and want to emulate them instead.
LMAO. So no incel has ever been angry because he isn't Chad? Seriously?

>>34087069
>So no incel has ever been angry because he isn't Chad?
No they're sad because they don't get any love and interest

>>34084103
Bro youre acting like she cheated on you. All she did was have sex before she met you. Most people do. A virgin after 18 is rare but one who's not a religious devotee like a crazy Mormon is a unicorn. Youre not a virgin anymore either. She had sex before you, yeah you should've guessed that. If it bothers you so much why dont you go join the church and get a teen virgin? Just lie about your own status

>>34084816
>To me, sex IS love
Well then there's your problem, most people men and women don't see it the same way. Not at all. You can't expect others to see it that way, and you have to screen someone beforehand to make sure that they feel the same way. To most other people, sex drive is a need just like hunger, just like being tired, any other need. There is a desire to fill the need. Who cares if it's shitty takeout? Who cares if it's McDonald's? All that matters is a hunger is satisfied. That's how most people see sex.

>>34087052
>I'm a guy
You're a simp who goes along with whatever women tell him. You're such a nice guy.
>>34087069
An incel may be angry he isn't Chad, but not angry AT Chad, rather angry at the world or life or their parents or women for their ridiculous standards.

>>34087069
are you retarded or something?
>men don't get angry at superior men
>LMAO, so no man has gotten mad he isn't a superior man?

do you hate everyone you wish you were like or are you just bad at reading?

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I have a few questions to the ones here that says a woman's past doesn't matter

Would you still hold that opinion if she had sex with a relative or a friend? Let's say she was fucked by your brother, or maybe your best friend.

And would you still hold that opinion if you saw her getting fucked? Let's say a video of her getting fucked was leaked and you watched the thing for some reason, or maybe some other way.

I feel like some of you just didn't think this through.

Every man knows what the deal is

You feel it in your gut

OP are you gay? Why do you think of other guy's dicks? I would never imagine EVER thinking about the dicks that have been in girls I've fucked. My dick is in her, that's all I care about. WTF bro you got to not ever do that again.
I understand the curiousity, like how much of a whore has she been in the past so I can be ok with dumping her, but to ask about dick size? cmon...

Lot of foid coping in here

>>34087619
Though I usually disagree with the "thinking about other guys dicks" take femoids use against men that don't like used goods, in this case I have to agree asking about the size was kinda sus

>>34086532
>Women choose a good-looking guy off a dating app to fuck, and honestly they may not even like their personality, they just literally want a dick to fuck them while they look for their serious relationship
And that alone, is a huge problem and a redflag
What the fuck happened with society? Casual sex is not even that good, is almost like masturbation, and the more casual sex you have, the more you erode any future sex you might have with actual love, because each person you fuck, leaves a baggage behind (this goes for both sexes, seriously, stop being sluts)

>>34087619
Let's say you go into your 30s and and want to settle down.
Imagine unlike in OP's case, your then gf / wife starts telling you about her nasty sexual past. I'm talking gangbangs, fmm 3somes, niggers, etc.
How would that NOT make you think about anything? Are you retarded? A cuck? Both?

>>34087146
Yeah? And what are your sources buddy? The fact that this is your world view and you can't imagine other people think differently?
In my experience of life, I meet many many people who equate sex to love and won't be satisfied when they have it without commitment. The real word here is commitment, that's what love is. Love is assurance of commitment and loyalty. If you don't have that, but you have sex, you'll eventually have a problem when you or the partner wants something more.

People like that exist, you're an example, I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying you're fucked in the head mate. It's not a brag to have sex and then say "yeeah I don't really care I just came and that's it"
Like good job, you're a black man

>>34087596
This, all of this, all you faggots will say a woman's past doesn't matter. Ok then, what if she posts nudes or you find a decade old porn video? Idiots love to act like they can't judge a person based on shit that happened prior to them.

>>34087642
That's all it is, a cope. Even bitches know when one dick was better than another but because they wanna be on some brain dead point game with men, they can't confess that and stay true to it.

>>34087849
Casual sex is bad for women and women only, always has been and always will be. A man is ok with screwing 10 women, a woman is not ok at all screwing 10 men. Don't bitch at me, bitch at the Almighty for not making the sexes biologically equal.

>>34088056
kys whoremonger

>>34088065
Did you not read faggot? I said go blame God, fagging out on a random anon isn't gonna fix what you're upset about

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>>34084103
That's your average woman nowadays dude. Chads are a dime a dozen now and they fuck more than 50% of the bottom men. Fuck her for a few months then dump her and let some other cuck be stuck with the bill, she will never love you either way.

>>34088056
Absolute retard take. It's bad for both men and women. If a guy is fucking 10+ women he's literally contributing to the problem you're referring to. That's 10+ women who now have a promiscuous past

>>34088139
5/50. I like the sound of that.

(https://www.researchgate.net/publication/367325876_Sexual_loneliness_A_neglected_public_health_problem)

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>>34086391
For you the day that your wife finally let you have sex after 3 years of being together was the most important day of your life, for me it was tuesday.

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>>34084103
>She's in love with me and I believe that
just return her to the streets where she belongs. Dont be blinded by pussy. Go after your life goals- none of which should be to chase after women like her.
>I wish I never fucking knew
nah, dont live in lies. Its better to know.
>Please tell me how to actually cope with this
break it off, find a better girl. Stay single for a while and go after your life goals. Block this whore from your social media and life. You'll be aight.

>>34084103
either cope with it and only use her for sex, or break up and pay a prostitute

>>34087849
>Casual sex is not even that good
Casual sex can never compare to sex between two people who genuinely love each other.

>the more casual sex you have, the more you erode any future sex you might have with actual love, because each person you fuck, leaves a baggage behind
If a woman is genuinely into you, she will forget about any sex in her past life really quick. The only time women fantasize about dick from their past is when they're settling for their current guy. Don't be that guy and you won't have to worry. The signs are very obvious.


>>34088056
gonna disagree, casual sex is bad for men and women. I did it for a while because I thought it was cool to bang a bunch of women and have a "roster" but it took a part of my soul each and every time.

>>34093879
>Casual sex can never compare to sex between two people who genuinely love each other
At the same time 2 people who love each other is nature's trick of getting you to commit long term. That early fire is not there anymore after a year of being together.

>>34087596
>I have a few questions to the ones here that says a woman's past doesn't matter
Fire away.
>Would you still hold that opinion if she had sex with a relative or a friend?
I must confess that if she's in the habit of having sex with *her* close relatives, I might be a little hesitant. However...
>Let's say she was fucked by your brother,
Not a problem. I did actually data one of my brother's exes. It was going well, but she unexpectedly had to leave the country on business, and we weren't solid enough to try long distance.
>or maybe your best friend.
He's currently married to one of my exes.
>And would you still hold that opinion if you saw her getting fucked?
If I saw her cheating on me, no. However...
>Let's say a video of her getting fucked was leaked and you watched the thing for some reason, or maybe some other way.
I've been with a couple of women who had videos of them with an ex. It was fun watching them.
>I feel like some of you just didn't think this through.
Think what through? All you're doing is revealing your own irrational prejudices. Out in the real world NO ONE CARES. It's only 4chan incels who have a problem.

>>34086391
>I just always found it comical that the new "serious" guy has to bust his ass and nuts just to achieve what was a normal Tuesday for me.
I used to feel the same way until I realized that one day I might be on the other end of this, and I'd never know.

It's a circle. You're fucking someone's future wife for free but your future wife is probably doing that (or has done that) too, and thus someone else is out there laughing at you while you laugh at someone else.

The only freedom from that circle is to just be true to yourself. If you like a girl enough to want to take her out and put effort in, then who cares what some other guy did with her? Once you've casually fucked enough women you'll come to this realization; it's why most fucbois don't really care that much about their girl's past

>>34084103
She could be hiding more sexual encounters. It’s extremely likely she will cheat on you in the future, given her sexual history.

I’m a woman and I’ve had arrangements like that before. Only liked them for that, it’s not that they “got it for free”. When he wanted to get together for real I broke it off immediately and found someone else. He wanted something serious too so I broke it off with him as well. Sometimes, especially after getting out of an abusive relationship the last thing you want is a relationship. I had sworn off relationships completely until I met my current bf.

>>34088247
And who gives access to sex dipshit? You're saying men are creating the problem, ok? And whose the gender allowing these men to fuck and then complain after? It's takes two motherfucker and considering men have far less biological risks to sex than women, then it would say naturally that women don't benefit from having sex as much as a male does. But of course you're on some dumb fuck "emotional connection" horseshit where you THINK a man can't pair bond if he's chased cars around the block. Once again blame God, literally in mutiple religions the upsides of harems and concubines for men and you think your new age faggotry on relationships change that.

>>34093980
That would imply my goal is the same as the next guy which it isn't. I dont force women, nor do I rape them so sex is 100% her choice. If some retard has to try harder to get what took me zero effort is not my fault whatsoever. I've also taken a woman's virginity, are you gonna blame me for every guy after that didn't get her at her prime? Sorry but life has winners and losers and some guys are destined to always never being her first, second, or even third choice.

>>34086180
>>34086308
Women who gave some of their best to men that put in little to no effort can't ever be very rewarding to be with. The lesson here should be having common sense and realizing just about every modern woman now has done something like this so you should go in keeping it casual (as it really is) if you interact with them at all. The race of the dick doesn't matter but the worst is she liked them enough to do extra work to reward him kek. And if women can say shit like this imagine everything they're not saying. The grapes are beyond rotten at this point. You can't even say you're just salty you didn't get it anymore. Jesus Christ a nut can't be worth that much. Have you fuckers ever wondered why a guy would even have to pry or invade a bitches privacy just to find any bit of the truth about her? It's because it matters first of all but second it also looks bad.
>>34094161
>He got my body but not my heart
Ass post. Sex is part of relationships and bonding hormones are released during it. And guys in these relationships are going to value it highly and the exclusivity of it intended in these relationshits unless maybe his dick or brain doesn't work anymore. This is just the most retarded cope. If some fag from years ago is getting better sex than the supposed love of your life or whatever fake retarded lovey dovey label you put on it then that guy is being treated like a clown. His existence is a joke for however long he's in that situation. Women are so fucking retarded and backwards now it's going to take like a century to start undoing the damage if humans even keep existing in this shit hole for that long.

Women know how important sex is to men almost universally and even use that for their benefit. They know they themselves get very jealous if the guy they're with simply looks at some other bitch. But somehow some fucking way they don't understand the problem with treating their exes or fuck buddies better than their "serious" partners when it comes to sex. What a fucking eyesore.

>>34093935
All of your writing tells me that you're an actual autistic sperg who doesn't know how to love outside of polyamorous relationships. Many cases like you. You are thoroughly cucked by women and you like it you mong

>>34094293
In the real world, it is quite common to end up dating someone who has previously been a friend, and even more common to date someone who is the friend of a friend. Consequently it is also common for someone to (at different points in time) date more than one person from within the same friend group. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand - because you don't have friends, I suppose?

>>34094180
Another retarded post with a religious copeout. Just kys.

>>34085258
>I have no idea why you fags insist on a world view that makes things so hard on yourself.
Maybe because it's a worldview that leads to objectively better lives for everyone, demonstrably and with data? And I don't know, maybe as crazy as it sounds we also believe in God?
>But eventuall yyou have to get over it, grow up and accept that women are not that different from men, they like to fuck, simple as.
Right, except there's this thing called self control. I like to fuck, I can go fuck right now if I wanted to, but I don't because I'm not an animal that prioritizes sexual pleasure above all things.
>Yeah , so is sacrificing humans, or burning people alive , or scourging yourself and all kinds of nonsense.
>Guiz, having sex with only one person for the rest of your life is literally like burning babies as sacrifices to Moloch!
I genuinely have no words. Like, this combination of being fedora-tarded and goonbrain is so staggering, for you to make that equivocation, I can't think of any insults that actually convey how much of a cumstain on a turd log you actually are
>Those times are over.
Kek they are rapidly coming back because beta male atheists like you are not breeding. In the next hundred years we'll have plenty of Amish, plenty of Muslims, plenty of Mormons, plenty of latino Catholics, and basically no fedoratards.

>>34085266
>sticking up for whores
>calling others a simp
The irony here is actually astonishing. You're getting legitimately mad and hurling insults in a blind nigger rage over another man suggesting women may be lowering their value by having casual sex, and then have the gall to call other men a simp.
>we would all be sexless gooners in perpertuity
Bro I can't think of a bigger gooner mindset than "I love women being whores oh yes let me play in pussy I need cummies I want fuck fuck pussy wonderland yay!"
Absolute WEASELS like you who have no chance of competing for a decent partner advocate for promiscuity because ironically that's YOUR hope for having sex. You are the fucking slave to pussy. You are the one simping and putting your neck on the line for women here. And guess what, buddy boy - they're not gonna fuck you!
>WOMEN LIKE TO HAVE SEX GET OVER IT INCEL
Ok they can have all the sex they want.
Also answer my fucking question. If sex is a biological imperative, where are all the babies from these casual relationships?

>>34084103
Just cheat on her until you feel even with her or just feel better about it.

>>34096836
I'm honestly going to try this and find out if it works. I'l create a thread once I've done it.

>>34085273
>reddit/iPhone spacing
Your opinion is meaningless off the rib but
>You understand the whole concept of the maidenhead was cooked up by old world stooges in order to ensure the purity of their line, right?
Sounds good to me. Aren't like 1/3 of all babies born in France not the offspring of their legal father?
>Do you also want to bring back bedding ceremonies where your entire family watches you fumble around with your scared virgin bride?
Sounds like a laugh to me.
>The two used to be interlinked, but we've since learned to decouple them to create pleasure separate from procreation.
And it is literally destroying civilization. You can literally mark the moment relations between the sexes broke down with the year the pill was released.
>are weird racial puritans obsessed with bloodlines
Right, we should blanda upp guys! Mix it up, just go fuck mystery meats! Forget about your own race and people, blanda upp!
>your intense insecurity and phobia of sex
LMAO I'm not afraid of sex, you are the hedonists afraid of going a single secnd of your life without pleasure

>>34084103
drop her ass. you deserve better. she's using you as a safe option. his dick size is meaningless. if she wants to play the town harlot, let her. not your problem.