DON'T GO TO THERAPY studies show therapy makes people ruminate and fixate on their problems, often making them worsenot to mention many therapists work under a psychiatrist and is seeking to push medications on youdon't ever take an ssri or maoiif you need immediate depression relief there are ketamine microdose treatment centers that will give you immediate relief, unlike an ssri which takes weeks to have an effect and messes up your brain permanently for the rest of your life READ THE BIBLE LOVE YOURSELF LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
>>34092216Bump. Good advice.
>>34092216Man, Jesus is gay.How many times are you going to spam this thread?
>>34092216Unironically true, but how I'm supposed to collect my NEETbux if I don't go to the psychiatrist to have my retard certificate ?
>>34092269Praise God. All these posters are like a part of me battling it out in my mind already. I'm not alone. It's almost too good to be true. I did ruminate and fixate on problems but was given good advice to help work on problems. Plus there's the retard certificate. Things are up and down because it takes a village. Remain teachable and don't ruminate even though it fucking sucks and might feel like they're just breadcxrumbing you kindness and not giving actual help. They are just people and seething at them is a stupid way to squander the kindness and often, practical advice they give you. Hopefully making it out of the 'missing middle'. Only God gives life. Faith like a child is what we are looking for but faith is a gift. doon't give up and embrace failare Life is transition and suffering like buddhism Ahh pain fucking pain Fucking hard to fucking love, Fuckimg pms fucking pushed by someone and i bit back idklove love lovedang hard on ourselves
>>34092216Yes. Don't think about your problems and they will magically go away by themselves
>>34092216Never go to therapy anons, the people shilling this shit are often "therapists" themselves, which are grifters. These parasites need to get a real job, starve them out.IGNORE THERAPY POSTERS AS THEY ARE MOSTLY THERAPISTS SHILLING THEIR GRIFT
>>34092394Psychologists are doomed to not being able to help their patient. They come from the field of medicine and see everything through the spectrum: a patient, a maladies. a lot of "maladies" are not maladies but only natural reactions. Like self harm for example, when you are suffering from the inside and people around don't notice (don't care nowadays), the unconscious will push self harm to make things more visible to the outside and force people to react. But I don't work anymore because a thing psychologists don't study is the mental health of society as a group. And society is sick and it's very bad. It is now normal to ignore people that surfer or to just blame them when they are the victim. Everyone thinks only about himself when we are supposed to live as a group.It's hard to be human and to seek human connection when everyone around you is superficial, even in religion so many "christian" only use religion to justify their own action and never cared enough to read the bible for themself.But if you suffer you are probably on the right path, humans only grow in hardship and those hardships will lead you to a better understanding of the world, yourself and god. Think about Enoch no matter how hard the trials that god gives us, in the end we will be recompensed with more than we lost.
What studies?
>>34092216>studies showthe same studies that say dinosaurs walked the earth? i dont think so buddy, therapy sounds pretty good to me now
>>34092216>studies show therapy makes people ruminate and fixate on their problems, often making them worseFigured this out on my own
>>34092216I think that's pretty true. Most of the world is just people selling products and services for money. Therapy is selling the "idea" of a treatment which may or may not actually be effective, backed up by overly academic language used to create a sense of authority.
>>34092755get used to losing, loser
>>34093245studies show im winning actually
>>34093908>winthere's only one way to do that
>>3409221670 iq: hit the gym, get laid100 iq: go to therapy, go to church, meditate130iq: same as 70 iq
Seeing a psychotherapist for the first time.Has never delved into my past. Has never tried to get me on medication.It's purely been practical methods to cope with my crippling perfectionism. I likely have OCD (she's never cared about getting me diagnosed or labeled either).I have dealt with all of my other mental problems on my own. Only reason I'm going is because efforts to do it on my own have failed for once, didn't know where to start and she's given me some helpful tools.Not saying therapy is always good but I'm happy with my therapist so far. I have read through the Bible 2 times and have found nothing to help with this particular issue on my own.
>>34094193This is why I'm on the fence about therapy, for every 100 posts complaining, there's atleast a few who say therapy actually works or is helping.
>>34094198Go to therapy, but once a month or even less. Once a week is too much.
>>34092216 (OP)>Don't go to this place that takes money and claims to help you, go to this OTHER place that takes money and claims to help you!Alternative internet brain rot has turned an entire generation into mumbling retards
>>34094208Look buddy op never posted about going to church that's just a cope you made to excuse your behavior.>Tldr being nice to your neighbor is free dipshit
>>34093947going to the gym is part of loving yourself getting laid before marriage is a trap
>>34094198Autistic 4chan losers malign therapy for a few reasons. Firstly, they love forming strong opinions about things they know little to nothing about - women, relationships, life as an adult etc., Either they have absolutely no experience with it or the experience they have put into it mirrors the rest of their lives - put absolutely minimum effort into it then as soon as it gets uncomfortable immediately quit and find someone else to blame for why it didn't work. Secondly, therapy is a means of self-improvement and 4chan autists HATE taking responsibility for their own lives. Its always women or trannies or the jews or some other nebulous, ill defined monolith that's made their life an insurmountable challenge that they can't be held liable for failing. If therapy is a legitimate way to fix mental problems then suddenly they become responsibility for not fixing them so, obviously, being the accountability avoidant roaches they are they absolutely must dismiss the entirety of mental health science altogether as harmful so they can justify continuing to be lumps of unproductive and miserable flesh. After all, to them, therapy doesn't help, medication doesn't help, psychiatrists don't help, so its not their fault that they sit around and stew in their failure. Its everyone else's. The last bit is just the general internet brain rot of anti-institution immaturity. They're all disillusioned, antisocial children so if any consensus says a thing is good they have to believe the exact opposite as to avoid being associated with the normie majority they've built this artificial disdain for. Its all to cover up the fact that they wish they could join the crowd and be normal but they can't so obviously they need to portray their group of terminally online outcasts as somehow more enlightened then everyone else. Its the "you can't fire me I quit" of social assimilation.
>>34094245What the fuck are you talking about
>>34094256for every 1 person who is using therapy as a means to improve themselves, 20 are using it to be the unproductive lumps of flesh you're talking about, like >>34092269so your whole diatribe there is nothing but unmitigated bullshit and spite
>>34094258Exactly, if you're too fucking stupid to extrapolate what I mean yourself then don't even bother asking such a benign and meandering question.>Durrr wtf R (you) tawlking about Stfu bitch
>>34094273>so your whole diatribe there is nothing but unmitigated bullshit and spiteIncredible argument. I loved the way you engaged meaningfully with each individual thing I said and didn't just dismiss the entire thing with name calling.>>34094311You sound extremely well adjusted
>>34094311Your reading comprehension is awful. The comment was that OP was telling people not to go to therapy, a medical institution that offers treatment for money, but instead go to a "ketamine microdosing treatment centers" as if all of the incentives for treating people in exchange for money isn't just as prevalent in alternative medicine as it is in traditional medicine. Learn to read, dipshit.
>>34092216>studies show[citations needed]
>>34094273Are you pulling numbers from your ass, without a single source to back up your assertion?
>>34094446Its from his ass. There's absolutely no evidence that any majority of people are using therapists as cover to get disability checks. At least in the U.S. that's not how disability even works. You don't just submit a note from a counselor and they give you money.
If you're an American male, there's no reason to seek therapy. You're gonna drown in debt to get told a bunch of nonsense that is not going to improve you4r situation any.
>>34094446no, i'm pulling numbers from real life where people don't typically go to psychologists and psychiatrists for improvement or accountability, they go to get a label attached to their name so they can compete in the oppression olympics and have an excuse to fail and continue being a piece of shit look at the health industry in general, it is a mess of scammers and bullshit, and the mental health industry is no different, customers for life is the business model
>>34094411>name calling>>34094256>Autisticname calling is the first word of your post, idiot
>>34094411>You sound extremely well adjustedThx I really appreciate it not many people are reasonable out there.. I get offered therapy for free and it's still a waste. A waste of time, energy, and freedom. Seeing all of the therapy shills out there made me realize misery loves company and boy I do pity (you)'s.>The comment was that OP was telling people not to go to therapy, a medical institution that offers treatment for money, but instead go to a "ketamine microdosing treatment centers" as if all of the incentives for treating people in exchange for money isn't just as prevalent in alternative medicine as it is in traditional medicine. Learn to read, dipshit.Tldr to gay onions post cope more. >" Learn to read, dipshit." >Doesn't extrapolate message 3rd time proving retardation >I m m e d I a n t e d e p p r e s s i o n >Relief...>B e k I n d t o y o u r s e l f > Be kind to your neighbor >>34094419Failed at understanding Op and is fervent about the rapy. Good go on see the rapist (you) stupid Semite caiphas. The only kind of parasite whomst take advantage of poor little goys and their stupid little gentile "issues". If you don't breed good better if you're removed from the goy genepool pronto
think i engage with strawmen? think again, kike
>>34095468the difference is ketamine actually works, and without permanently fucking your brain did ya miss that part bud? it's okay
>>34095483>the difference is ketamine actually works, and without permanently fucking your brainI'm not arguing against that, you've probably misinterpreted what you read. If ketamine is an immediate relief to depression, why is cannabis still classified as a schedule 3 drug when it's been proven medically beneficial. >Tldr did ya miss that part bud? it's okay
>>34095463>No argumentI accept your concession>Thx I really appreciate it not many people are reasonable out there.. It was a joke. You sound like an absolutely brain rotted spazz.>Failed at understanding Op and is fervent about the rapy. Good go on see the rapist (you) stupid Semite caiphas. The only kind of parasite whomst take advantage of poor little goys and their stupid little gentile "issues". If you don't breed good better if you're removed from the goy genepool prontoI have no clue if you're speaking english. >>34095483>the difference is ketamine actually works, and without permanently fucking your brain Firstly, there's no data to support this claim. Secondly, why would anybody care about your amateur medical opinions?
>>34095699>Firstly, there's no data to support this claimit's an fda approved treatment with lots of data behind it, lying sack of shit
>>34095708Firstly, >Ketamine is not FDA approved for the treatment of any psychiatric disorder. FDA is aware that compounded ketamine products have been marketed for a wide variety of psychiatric disorders (e.g., depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and obsessive-compulsive disorder); however, FDA has not determined that ketamine is safe and effective for such uses.This is directly from the FDA website. Secondly, the sources that I found that said Ketamine was an approved treatment in some clinics cited that it was not physician recommended as a first medication but rather as a last ditch alternative for hard to treat depression if other more traditional methods had been tried first. It also was not recommended for long term use and cited "limited data" to support its efficacy.I always find it bizarre when people are so uneducated about their own opinions. You're so excited to hop on whatever anti-establishment bandwagon your favorite anime forum tells you to that you don't even bother researching a topic that apparently you feel SO strongly about. Fucking embarrassing to be this much of a brainlet.
>>34095764lol you're so intellectually dishonest it's not even funnybut here ya go pleb and while the therapy and ssri industry may be panicking and trying to gatekeep access, in my state there are plenty of centers you can go to for immediate depression relief from ketamine without the need to tithe with pharmaceutical companies and therapists for weeks and months first
I wouldn't recommend ketamine. It's very addictive to depressive people.
>>34092216> not to mention many therapists work under a psychiatrist and is seeking to push medications on youNo shit, I have been saying this for yearsThe real therapy comes from within, not from a kike who profits over your misery
