So since woman won't date a 30 year old guy with no dating experience, is that a good enough excuse to not put any effort in trying to get a gf?
>>34137994Why are you telling them you don't have experience? Just stay off that topic.
>>34138034The topic will come up eventually.
>>34138037Lie if what you're saying actually true. It's probably not even true.
>>34138037You can say "I'll tell you that at some point" and keep dating them for a few months. If they do break up with you over it (which is not likely) then you just had your first gf so you're good.
>>34138078>It's probably not even true.Anon...
Pretty sure it's your attitude and taste in art that puts them off.
>>34138215How do they know my attitude if they don't even talk to me?
yes, i like to come up with a bunch of excuses for my wizard status
why do guys think they have to meet a bunch of criteria before being worthy of dating? I feel like that is layering man logic on things when women’s attraction is not always logical. Take care of yourself (exercise, hygiene, etc) and talk to people. This kind of post makes it sound like you want the reward of dating someone but you are using excuses for not being dateable so you can coddle yourself instead of making changes in your lifestyle.
>>34138904>why do guys think they have to meet a bunch of criteria before being worthy of datingDating experience is a criteria.
>>34138037Eventually, at that point you will be past it mattering or if it breaks the deal you have the info you need to know she ain't for you.
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>>34138904You have to have something to offer otherwise the girl will choose the next guy
wtf is experience?
>>34139814Op btw
>>34138037Tell stories about when you hung out with female friends, how tf would she know said girl in story wasn't your gf at the time
>>34138904Women speaking on the male experience will never not be funny, when's the last time you made the first move? You can create a fake story if you like
>>34143488>Tell stories about when you hung out with female friendsAnon...
>>34137994>is that a good enough excuse to not put any effort in trying to get a gf?You have your cause and effect mixed up here OP. You didn't put in any effort so now no woman will date you, not the other way around.
>>34145056So am I good to keep not putting in effort since women don't want to date a 30 year old virgin anyway?
>>34138904>Take care of yourself (exercise, hygiene, etc) and talk to people.Lol, these are the very criteria that guys like OP are not meeting. So they're right in that sense, except these lofty "criteria" are just regular every day things that most people do anyway. They make a big deal about it, without actually doing it.
>>34137994Do you want to die alone with no wife or children? Then yes.Do you want to take a gamble and hopefully have a good relationship and potentially a family? Then no.
>>34145064Do whatever you want OP, just don't expect things to ever magically change for you.You'll say you don't care, and yet I expect more chin-scratching stick figure threads on the same topic in your future.
>>34138215"taste in art".... ur either a fag or a woman.
>>34145082I hate how women get rewarded just for existing but men have to work for it.
>>34137994>>34138037Just don't tell them? Let it remain kind of mysterious like "oh yeah she was a while ago and it just isn't something I like to talk about" or "Look, I just have a principle of not talking about my exs, just to be fair to them and to be fair to you. It just feels strange to me to talk about past partners to you as my girlfriend. Maybe I'm old fashioned or something but to me it is just gentlemanly". Women might pester you about things but they like mystery. Secret (don't tell any women): you don't have to do what they say to the letter as they ask for stupid shit that they don't want to have or know all the time.That fact that you can't come up with something like that tells me you are a giga sperg and what you think is the problem is in fact, not the problem.
>>34145090>women get rewarded just for existingThey really don't though.You being willing to date/fuck any of them at the drop of a hat is hardly a "reward" for them.
>>34145123They absolutely do, don't even pretend otherwise.
>>34137994Please don't put any effort at all into getting a gf. Ever.
>>34145216You don't want me to improve?
>>34137994Nah