>failed first date ever because I didn't want to have sex on the first date.>lost second chick I dated because I was rushing things. >lost third woman I was dating because I didn't show enough interest soon enough.Since communicating how fast a relationship should be progressing is impossible for women and they would rather leave you instead of saying "let's take this further or" "let's take this more slowly", is there a way of knowing it without having an intuition superpower?
>>34140389Keep trying. Theat this as practice.
>>34140389You're overthinking it and trying to do things with a timer. Literally just hang out and go from there. It's retarded how others build these walls and try to count bricks.
>>34140389Anon, you have failed to grasp what dating is, at an absolutely fundamental level. You're treating it like some kind of video game where you have to find the correct strategy and are rewarded with sex. That's not how it works. The purpose of dating is not to adjust your behaviour to suit the person you're with; the purpose is to find someone who likes you the way you already are (and that you like back). What you should be doing is deciding what speed you want the relationship to progress at, and then finding a woman who wants it to progress at that speed.Rejection is an essential part of the process. Rejection is what gets rid of the people who aren't a suitable match for you. If you don't get rejected, you'll almost certainly end up with the wrong person.So, move on, and find someone you are actually compatible with. Or alternatively, if this is your attitude: >Since communicating how fast a relationship should be progressing is impossible for women and they would rather leave you instead of saying "let's take this further or" "let's take this more slowly"then it might be better if you didn't date at all.t. guy who found someone compatible
>>34140622You kind of have a point, but I don't particularly care about what pace the relationship goes at. I am fine with things going fast and things going slowly if it means I get to be with someone I like. >"oh you're a great guy, our conversations never get awkward and we have everything in common, but you wanted to hold hands during the 5th date last week at the cinema instead of the 4th date two weeks ago, this isn't going to work".Is basically what my last date told me.She could have said something, or even gone for my hand during the movie, but nope. I guessed wrong and I'm supposed to think this outcome is okay.
>>34140519>>34140418I don't live in a very big town, I have a limited amount of attempts."just fuck up carelessly and learn" is not good advice in this situation.
>>34140742>I guessed wrong and I'm supposed to think this outcome is okay.That outcome *is* okay. As a result of that, you are no longer with a woman who isn't suitable for you. Mission accomplished. Now move on.
>>34140771I wanted to make a move earlier, but I was still under the shock of the one who left me without a warning for rushing things, so I restrained myself. By what she said, she wanted me to make a move, and I wanted to make a move. There was no real clash of values, we wanted the same thing at very slightly different speeds. The next time should I just print a timeline chart on an A3 paper and unroll it like a parchment on the first date to see if she's on board before I waste my energy?
>>34140389>because I didn't want to have sex on the first dateThen you fuck the hoe and she still ghosts you after, and you feel like shit.You did the right thing anon.
>>34140742Waiting 5 dates to hold hands is wild
>>34140622Unfortunate that that's not the case for me It's Good that you found that you liked being rejected by her and all the other girls who didn't like you
>>34140389It is intuition, which comes from experience. Basically, you suck at dating and you need more practice. If your city is too small, move to a bigger one.
>>34140842>The next time should I just print a timeline chart on an A3 paper and unroll it like a parchment on the first date to see if she's on board before I waste my energy?You're being deliberately obtuse. Clearly you need to be with a woman who is capable of having a conversation about this. Not everyone needs that, but you clearly do. The women you have been with so far were not capable of having a conversation about it, and were therefore not suitable for you. The fact that they are gone means you can now look for someone who is suitable. Embrace that.>>34140982>Unfortunate that that's not the case for meIt's the case for every single person who has ever dated, it's just that some are too stupid to realise it.>It's Good that you found that you liked being rejected by her and all the other girls who didn't like youTry and be a *little* less retarded. I rejected quite a number of women because they weren't right for me; and quite a number of women rejected me because I wasn't right for them. I am now very happily married. If any of those rejections hadn't happened, I would now be unhappily married. Of course no one *enjoys* rejection; but it's an essential part of the process to ending up happily married. There is no getting around that. It is easier to be philosophical about it if you internalise that truth.
