How the fuck are you supposed to meet women after you graduate university?
>>34158554At work.
>>34158554The usual answers are church and hobby groups. However, you need to be very lucky at church (and possibly attend multiple congregations) because all the girls get snapped up quickly due to early marriage. Plus, approaching a girl at a religious service is awkward since it'll tell her that you were more focused on her ass than the sermon Outside of college, hobby groups have also become increasingly harder. A lot of groups are dominated by men, and men who join woman-oriented clubs are often viewed negatively. Specifically, unless you're lucky, you'll be seen as an opportunist rather than a true hobbyist.Ultimately, outside of college, the dating apps are the only way to approach modern women without immediately giving them "the ick." Of course, the apps are hellish, but approaching women irl requires either a lot of luck or high physical attractiveness.
>>34158554I can see the wrinkles in this bitter, aging cunt's face and so can the men she's talking about.
>>34158695But women aged 18 - 34 don't have hobbies. No exceptions.
>>34158695So basically I'm fucked
More and more normal people are becoming homeless.Not just crackheads and schizos anymore. Would it be wrong to just invite a homeless women to a restaurant for dinner and sex?
Online.
30/2=15+7=22.
>>34158554Yeah women aren’t mature until 30yo. Maybe they shouldn’t have the right to vote or get high until then.
>>34158554>23 year old (girls)I can understand 18-30 is questionable at best, but once they're over 21, is it really a big deal?Even at 18, their life choices and responsibilities are their own. If dating an older man is one of them, who gives a shit?
>>34158554Take dance classes. You will meet women. Not the kinds of women you would want to marry, but they are technically women.
>>34158554Why is it always the men that these roasties are getting mad at? How about getting mad at the teenage girls that openly flirt with older guys?>teenage girls don't do that!Like hell they don't.
>>34158554the 18-23 year old girl chose the 30 year old man. blame her if you dont like it
>>3415887630/2=15, not 22, you fucking sub-80 IQ thirdie.>>34161544>>34158908The bigger issue is that the society makes you more and more isolated from the consequences of your choices, which means you can longer and longer live like a child without any external pressure to mature, which means that people stay stupid much longer.>year 2100>35yo boy breaks down crying because mommy won't buy a toy>it's a normie, not a 4chan autistWomen who want to protect 23yo girls from 30yo creeps aren't exactly wrong - in modern times, most 23yos are mentally still children, and their own families can't be trusted to parent them.
>>34162481>30/2=15, not 22, you fucking sub-80 IQ thirdie.Retard-kun, I....
>>34162481>in modern times, most are mentally still childrenfixed
>>34158554I think the real answer that is hard for a lot of guys to grasp is NOT EASILYBut just because it isn’t easy in these modern times does not mean it is impossible. And also it does not help one single bit you or anyone else for you to be resentful. You can have a self pity party once in a while. You can expect your partner to treat you great but you can’t resent the state of the world and then put it onto the woman you have found. Women are always selecting, that is the natural state of things in the modern socio-political world. Only in pre-industrial revolution did it make sense for women to be managed and marriages be arranged. So in this world you have to commit to making yourself the best you you can. Washed, groomed, teeth, hair, cloths, good attitude, healthy, fit, engaged.After that it takes TIME! You have to go where single women are and then keep being there and be committed to it for a long time. This is why so many people say hobbies or church. The idea is that you wont drop the hobby or church after finding a woman. The idea is that you are there for the long haul and so are the women you find there. Does that mean you have to do MANY UNCOMFORTABLE things and CHANGE YOUR WHOLE LIFESTYLE? Yes it does. That is our species selection process for men atm. That or be so fucking rich you can find an hanger on. But for us working class plebs it is very hard. But if you are genuine and ernest and a moral person with love in your heart that will show through and is what attracts a woman to being your life long partner. As far as finding fuck buddies after university. Be Rich, be super attractive. Then go on dating apps.
>>34158554i do dancing and bars. tho this may be a south europe thingDONT do dating apps
>>34158742Knitting
>>34158554>picShe was shagging 30 year olds when she was 18-23, and now she's pissed guys who were her age back then are now shagging 18-23 year olds. Peak comedy.
>>34162058It's because they used to be that girl and now they're aged out. There are legitimate issues relating to large age gap relationships but to a lot of these women the biggest issue is literally jealousy and insecurity around aging.
>>34158554Old bitch is probably 40 trying to date 30 year olds and seething because no one wants her used goods.
You don’t, I guess. I wish I knew. The loneliness isnt too bad at times. When I do try to date there’s just no connection. I’d like to think other countries are better, but I don’t want to move away from family or give up hobbies.
>>34158554Work, through friends, apps if you have to. While not always the case, if your group of friends doesn't provide any opportunity to meet new people (girls) at all, you should assess your friend situation. If you don't have friends, you will not get a girl, period.
>>34158554At work. Get a job.Through friends. You do have friends, right?That's it. Dance classes: they see you as a creep, especially if you are ugly and shortYoga: sameVolunteering: sameHiking and running clubs: wannabee chads are very territorial and will bully youChurch: I don't know about your church, but mine organizes a lot of events that are effectively matchmaking event. Unfortunately tend to be the uglier ones.
>>34163035I don't hate your advice but what bugs me about it is that women have to do no such thing. They can just live their lives as normal and meet someone. As a man, I have to make a direct effort to meet a woman. I have to go to places I don't even like all that much just to MAYBE meet a woman.
>>34158554Correct me if I'm wrong... but it's none of her business.
>>34162481>30/2=15, not 22, you fucking sub-80 IQ thirdie.Wow you're breathtakingly stupid, and yourself probably brown ESL>most 23yos are mentally still childrenWomen perpetually remain mental children all their lives, they just get crustier and more sarcastic with age
>>34158554Honestly travel and doing volunteer stuff or a degree. the key is a shared environment. I dont agree with the other answers here I think going to church for a girl is not the right way to go about it, and there arent many women in church
>>34164231That's a dime for the self-pity jar, anon
>>34158641>>34164161I work a minimum wage job. There are only 3 women where I work and two of them are probably 16 or 17. The other one is average looking, which I don't mind, but she doesn't socialize much because she's got more responsibilities than most other workers besides the managers and directors so she comes off as being quite cold, and she probably quit a second time due to burnout because I haven't seen her in almost two weeks.
>>34164671Should have raped her.
>>34165152Wtf, anon. I'd lose my job if I did that.
>>34158641I work in tech and everyone is a man. 1 in 100 maybe are like slavic women with PhDs who are not very feminine.
>>34158554Mid 30's here, cummed inside a 19yo yesterday, we're all gonna make it bro. As for your stupid question, go to eventa in your city/town you fucking retard, and then talk to people. Meet-ups, bars, speak easy, theres plenty to choose, even if you live in bum fuck nowhere small town USA you can go to the town square and shoot possums with the other hillbillies or whatever the fuck these people do, but theres always something everywhere, people always organize something to meet people to fuck even if its masked as a church thing or whatever the fuck, its absolutely impossible that theres literally no social gatherings or events of any kind whatsoever in your area, so just go. I bet even the Amish have gatherings in the woods to fuck or something
>>34158641Horrible advice, never shit where you eat.
>>34161569What's wrong with dance classes?I recently met a cutie in a dance class. There was a shortage of men and she was too introverted to ask people to dance so she had no qualms with dancing with me the whole time.
>>34158554I wish I knew.
>>34168053I went to one for about a month. I didn't see any women around my age, but maybe it had something to do with my schedule because I did see a couple younger girls when I went to a Christmas party at that same dance studio. I didn't ask anyone to dance at that party because I didn't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable, plus I'm awkward and unattractive. I would've taken more lessons, but they're quite expensive.
>>34158554Meet new people.>HowBy socializing>Where do I socializeClasses, meetups, gatherings, parties, gyms, workshops, shows, et al where people with your mutual likes goals values and interests gather. Basically anywhere you could conceivable bum a cigarette of someone>How do I socialize with people there?Discuss what you are doing and add your unique insights to the conversation (if it is true, polite, and helpful) Be a good listener. Sometimes a different topic comes up and you can form a bond over that too.>I did that and don't have any friends!That is why you need to meet new people per step 1. Not everyone you meet is going to be an acquaintance and not every acquaintance is going to be a friend. That's just how life is.>It's really uncomfortable to try and fail it's too hard!I know it's hard. But failure is an opportunity to learn. Everything is hard at first, but only at first. You'll never have anything if you let your fear of failure and discomfort outweigh your desire for what you want.>I've done that a whole lot and still no friends!!!!You probably have some kind of personality or developmental disorder you should get professionally diagnosed and help for. There is no shame in needing help.>I don't want to do any of thatIf this all sounds unappealing to you then you don't want to have friends. This is the essence of growing, meeting people and having friends.
>>34168775Ok, but what if you're broke? Going out is expensive as hell.
>>34163035>CHANGE YOUR WHOLE LIFESTYLE?Gooning lifestyle aside, I'm not saying what you say is untrue, but it's not the whole picture, it doesn't factor in that there is a big school of psychology telling people "Go your own way, find your own happiness, do what you love" and what not. What if the thing you love is something that has virtually no women and no people? For example, get into archeology, hiking, etc. The women there are few, far few which have other spheres in their lives such as partying, drinking, church, friends where they have options, you as an intrepid archeologist have... One woman every 2 months to meet in the hike. Some hobbies just have no women there, or don't have the women you want, etc.So if we decide to live the life we want the options are:>Be left alone>Choose the ugly woman, and make her unhappy because you don't want her in the first place>Fuck whores (probably ugly and with STDs) and seal your fate as a discriminated whorefuckerAnd if we decide to do the things we don't want our options are:>Be unhappy, build stress, and have women get away from you because they can tell you're an impostor>Choose an ugly woman and give her an unhappy marriage because you don't want her or her lifestyle >Choose an average woman and get divorced when she realizes you are living an unhappy lifestyle>Pay for whores and die from STD after being marked a whorefuckerIt seems, If you weren't raised mainstreamly, if you didn't climb social ranks in highschool, if you let your youth pass studying hard, if you're 30 like the OP pic mentions, you are left behind and your only resource aside from the options above is the school of Psychology that tells you "It's time to cope: Learn to keep going while being unhappy". Then what, are you fated to be like this? This is a big chunk of people, it's not possible there's currently no other resource to this problem.
>>34168775Malicious advice. You gloss over on purpose the elephant in the room. If you were socialized in a way that meeting people means going out of your way, you are not covered by the advice. Just look at the final steps.>You have a personality disorder and need helpAnd the solution the therapist says is>"Let's brainwash you by pretending you're pavlov's dog. Keep doing things until you don't care about them, and when you don't care about them, start doing drugs that make you feel less. Oh it didn't work out like you expected? Well it's time to cope, sometimes life is shit but we have to keep going, keep moving, keep trying". It becomes eternal penance, endless spind around metaphors of self improvement and dog training. You spend time in it and life goes on without change while moving on the same spot. It's evil advice, it ommits addressing the issue at hand.
>>34167606What do people looking for strangers to meet look like? Because whenever I go to events like this, all the women have their couple around and cling to them. Even if you smalltalk or try to be vulnerable or deep, they don't reach out to you, even for friendship.
>>34168053You would have an ok shot with beginners like that who are likely to quit anyway. However, seasoned dancers are touching up other men constantly and going to places where people hookup, which is not ideal.
>>34168053Is it the tiny shithole I live in that only has aerobics-style tiktok-guided dance classes, or is that what a dance class is supposed to look like? What are you supposed to look for in the activity if you think from the beginning it's a kinda stupid activity?Just imagine, why would a guy, among gays and middle aged ladies, be standing in ranks doing a solo dance routine copied from tiktok? When's the moment to socialize if everyone's busy in the mass-solo routine?
>>34170056>Is it the tiny shithole I live in that only has aerobics-style tiktok-guided dance classes, or is that what a dance class is supposed to look like?No, look up Latin social dancing.
>>34170064I live in latin america. We don't have latin-social dancing. We have people standing in rows doing a cumbia or reggaeton routine. I guess actual dancing in couples only happens in bars, and the routine is passed on in family or childhood friends.
>>34170073You would have to go to Colombia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, or Mexico. They do salsa or bachata every night of the week.
>>34170073That's not what I heard. You're supposed to ask girls to dance and they're not allowed to refuse
>>34167608No one tell this guy about houses
>>34163944>There are legitimate issues relating to large age gap Found the roastie
>>34170024I'm lucky there's a shortage of men the place I dance I guess.>>34170056No there are partner dances where you dance with a partner holding each other physically. Stuff like Waltz or Tango.Partner dancing lessons are typically followed by a social dance where you can ask a woman to dance with you. The dance typically lasts just 1 song but you can just ask her to keep dancing.
>>34167608Great advice, fellow Redditor! Enjoy your instant -20% chance to meet somebody!/s
I honestly feel like shit. The more I think about it, the more pressured and less confident I feel about getting a partner for its own sake.Legit the only women I am drawn to are 9/10 big tit women everyone is after. I don't know how to lower my standards because I plain would treat the girl like shit, Like ignoring her out of lack of interest, maybe even end up cheating.I don't want to lie to women, I am only drawn to their physical attractiveness and I rely on myself for any emotional or social need. I do a broad range of activities but I would think most any women would be uncomfortable doing a hike, long trips, boring things like listening to history, and I myself am uncomfortable with latin music and alcohol. Is getting what I want, physical attractiveness only possible by going after whores? I don't want to be looked down by women for making the wrong choices, I just want to be happy in my own way.
>>34170573And if there are no women at your workplace?
