Okay, so I know 18 year olds are definitely not women. But like, at what point do you start calling them women? At 21? 25?
>>3419518518 year olds are women. Once again you're letting this slippery slope bullshit get out of your hands.>15 year olds are not women!>18 year olds are not women!>21 year olds are not women!>23 year olds are not women!>25 year olds are women for sure!>uhhh 28 year olds are still not ready!>Adulthood starts at 30!What are you, a hobbit?
>>34195185when they prove they're not brainless little girls
>>34195185You're an easily manipulated (wo)man if you really think that. Nature decides that, not us, nor the law. Her menarche is the introduction into womanhood. Her mother or grandmother should be there to guide her into it, not her dumb friends or social media.>>34195225Then you'll have to wait until menopause. After they hit puberty, they largely stay the same mentally. This is required to raise (healthy) children; you need someone who's closer to being a child so that they're more in tune with them and could have a natural relationship with them. If rearing children were done by men instead, we'd call that "army" and we wouldn't be raising children, but soldiers.
>>34195225That never happens!
>>34195185It doesn't matter. All you need to know is they don't want to have sex with you, and you will never be one.
>>3419518518 year olds are women. Though many of them naive and retarded women.They'll never grow up if infantalized and coddled. They should be raised and encouraged to make the right choices, and free to make mistakes such that they may learn. Just like men.
Its really weird as a 30 year old to have seen the stupid infantilization of 18 year old women happen in real time. I am not even that old (inb4 unc) and remember many 18 year old men who died in Afghanistan and Iraq. But 18 year olds are now children?
>>34195185some are early, some are late. and some laws are stupid
>>34195185it's very common to tell girls when they turn 15 "you're a woman now" during their quinceaños party here so I say it's ok to call them a woman at 15
You start calling them women when they are:>18+ years old>no more than 5 years younger than you
>>3419518518 year olds are women.16 year olds are ‘young women’13 - 15, that’s a teenage girl.5 - 12, thats a child.2 - 4, a toddler1 - 2 an infant0 - 1 a babyThis applies to men too. 18 year olds are adults, the problem is most 18 year olds do not act loke adults. This is because parents no longer emotionally nurture or intellectually discipline their children, they let TV, Phones, Internet do it instead easier and parents are lazy now. This is why 18 - 25 year olds laugh at the same memes as a fucking 8 year old does. Or how they play the same videogames or watch the same shit online. The cultural and mental distinction between child and adult is evaporating. There are too many children with the minds of adults, and too many adults with the minds of children.You can say “Thank you liberalism” for that.
>>34195664how old are you?
>>34195468>But 18 year olds are now children?It’s because they are now, mentally & developmentally and the scariest part is they can vote.
>>3419567132. And I remember being 18 and 16 myself vividly I remember not only myself but other 18 year olds and 16 year olds. They were way more adult than whatever the fuck im seeing now. Just last week I saw an 18 year old ‘man’ screaming like a little girl with his buds, randomly because ‘lol random’ then proceeded to skip down the street as if he were 5. Its fucking insane, and this wasnt an autist nerdy weird fuck up kid. This was a ‘cool kid’.
>>34195683I do remember liking "lul so r4nd0m" humor when I was 18 and my friends behaving like young horses horsing around and laughing out loud, your circle of friends was just a bit more collected or you grew up during a recessionI'm 41
>>34195695>your circle of friends was just a bit more collected or you grew up during a recessionMaybe. You may have given me a solid reality check to consider, you’re right, i grew up different, I grew up in a pretty lower class environment in a dangerous side of town. Had to grow up quicker or else you were someone else’s bitch. Place I live in now is were families go to raise kids and were im raising my own. Maybe i’m just weirded out by the difference.But fuck, man, really? 18 y/o and prancing and screaming like a little girl? If that kid was from where I was from he’d have been jumped. I’m not black either, even whites in the scrag end would do it too.
>>34195707yeah, no extreme is good in my opinionlet young people be young people, don't force them to be adults too young but don't let them be little kids either
>>34195723Wise words, mate. Wise words. The fuckers are getting taller on average too, maybe I’m imagining things but I’m seeing 16-18 year olds already nearing or over 6ft way more often than I did growing up. Part of the reason why I might be harsh in my judgement. Because an 18 year old 6 footer has a lot of strength they shouldnt be throwing around like a kid would. Either way thanks for the insights, ill take em to heart.
>>34195753yeah I've noticed each generation is very influenced by the culture around them "music, tv shows, things trendy among their peers" but also and this is something most people gloss over or don't even entertain, the economic situation of their eraI can guess the rough age of someone by how tall they are, specially the girls, the quality of nutrition they received as kids and the ease of good nutrition are easy indicators unless they are from rich parents and even then.
>>34195225Uhh
>>34196386Hmm?
>>34195753I don't see many more taller boys anymore but I do see more taller girls now that are 6'0 or slightly higher. Funnily enough it's also common to see them dating guys that are shorter than them because there's not enough tall guys for all of them.
>18+>sustainable income>own place>good health/dental planwoman
>>3419518518.
>>34195185it was weird for me to finally take the plunge to start calling all the women around me women,but i honestly believe its not a hard boundary and there is overlap, but once you are an adult you are now a woman. college age 18-23 may still be girls in addition to women, but i still consider them women. after college its a little cringe to be refered to as a girl
>>34203037>after college its a little cringe to be refered to as a girlNo, that only apples to men. Women of any age can be called girls in any context, because they are the special gender. It's why male homosexuals are called gay, but female homosexuals are called lesbians. You can't call a gay man a lesbian, even though a gay woman is well... also gay. It's very rare that it's acceptable to refer to men as boys.
>>34195185>at what point do you start calling them women?18
>>34195185When they've been through any amount of hardship that has required them to stop being brats, and actually step up to the plate as an adult for once.
>>34195185>1-3A literal baby>4-12A girl, sometimes a “young lady”>13-16A teenage girl, often called a young lady>17-19A teenage girl/a young woman>20-23A young woman>24+A woman
>>34195185when she has her first period>>34195225so never?
>>34207817And for a boy into a man? When he has his first jizz?
I'm 30 and I still don't feel mature enough.
>>34195185If you think this way then just accept you will never get laid since you are too brainwashed. Honestly it is kind of weird that there isn't enough push back when zoomtards do this since i used to have friends that went straight to afgahistan right out of high school
>>34208415>If you think X or Y then you'll just never get laid dude.lmao I'm starting to see a pattern here
>>34208213we never truly mature anon
>>34208213>I'm 30 and I still don't feel mature enough.Maturity isn't a feeling, is why. The only time a human ‘feels’ something is mature is typically when observing someone else, its just externalised mental opinion of someone else’s appearance or behaviours. You could look at someone performing and appearing extremely maturely in person but unbeknownst to you they are extremely immature inside they just got good at pretending socially. I do this a lot, I type and talk all matter-of-factly but I can promise you, behind closed doors, I am an impulsive and whacky retard. Maturity isn’t a feeling internally either, there is no such emotion called “maturity”. What makes someone mature or not is their level of self awareness or awareness on general of emotions, thoughts, feelings, and interpreting them and reacting to them in a tempered and critical manner. You may find you already do this or have done this your whole life, yet still feel immature inside. This is because maturity isnt a feeling. What people actually mean by “i dont feel mature enough” is simple “i havent experienced enough. I havent gotten milestones completed. I feel lacking in the family/love/career/hobby/life exp department”. Thats all that is
>>34208415thank you for your service
>>34209557>samefagginglol
