How do i cope with everyone being horrible? I just want to be a wholesome guy with a wholesome crowd like you might've had in the old sitcoms. The book how to make friends and influence people and similar advice assumes that the world is based on everyone having a common need of wanting to get along, you just have to figure out how to connect to be their friend. That's not true anymore. I'd say the common person is like a sociopathic isolated animal now. Guys are racist, tribalist, stick only to their own bros group and shit on the outsiders of their group even more than they shit on eachother for fun. Somewhere inbetween all the back and forth insulting, sometimes actual friend events that are important happen. Girls are part of a culture that rewards all the shitty things they do that they used to feel shame over, and they choose the meanest and richest sociopaths to fuck and create multiple babies who are now the current generation, who have been raised to be even worse than them, guided by those parents and the internet they sit them in front of since their early years, and nothing stops it, this world encourages it. Asshole bullies fall up and become CEOs. Tinder IS dating now. You fuck first and see if you catch love later. If you aren't chosen by these whores, now you're an incel, and they mock and demonize you for being nice. And People get dumber and dumber and drugs help to drown out any semblance of a conscience they might've had.
None of this comes naturally to me. It feels so wrong. I don't want to trade insults back and forth to make friends. I treat others how I want to be treated, and that makes me the weird one out. But how CAN I be more like them, just for the sake of living in this garbage society. Is there a guide for people like me with actual real advice? And why am I so different from them in the first place?Like for example today I watched as my coworkers all talked shit about a sorta autist coworker behind his back. I'll agree he is annoying but he doesn't deserve all they give back. Even the bosses got in on it, and then they took to even looking up his social media to gather round and laugh at that stuff too. And he doesn't even understand they are mocking him, he thinks they are his friends. Most of the time I just keep to myself but they're probably talking shit about me too.
>>34204477Be yourself, explore your strengths and weaknesses, embrace your nature, and once you do that, you can take control of yourself, know how to act, and the rest will flow naturally.
>>34204477Get off the cuck, or at least ween yourself out of it. This is my first time posting on this site after I took a break from the Internet 3 months ago. Trust me when I tell you I almost instantly became more of a normalfag and didn't rage over every little single thing. It's crazy how hostile and emotional 4chan is, even more nowadays. Ps: is it just me or are the captchas even more tedious and longer than they were before?
>>34204477>How do i cope with everyone being horrible?Honestly, you sound like a self-righteous prick. I've never met or known a good person who couldn't find goodness in the world. The problem is you. You are the negative weight keeping your life down.
>>34204477Yeah there are shitty people like that but it's not everyone, even if it is a large proportion of people
>>34204506>get off the cuckhuh? and yes, the captchas are tedious. when you first start it takes 4 harder ones but eventually seems to go down>>34204508maybe I am but someone's gotta be. In the past more people were like me. The book I posted was a huge hit because it worked. Look at that summary, you think those concepts work on the average cold-hearted person now? No, now it makes you weak.
>>34204564>maybe I am but someone's gotta beOk, then why are you here? What is there to cope with if you're happy with your decisions and have no desire to change? >Look at that summary, you think those concepts work on the average cold-hearted person now? No, now it makes you weak.Yeah good luck with that, OP. Let us know being a miserable prick works out for you in the long run.
>>34204477I'm not really sure either, I've decided to just try to treat people well and maybe I'll eventually find similar people that also want to live honestly and make friends with them. It hasn't really worked out yet but it's better than trying to force myself to act in a way that feels unnatural. I have to wonder if this is just an American issue and I'd have better luck in some third world country.
>>34204564nope, you dont have to be a prick but you are...so you deserve a prick life
>>34205743im pretty sure its the flooding of people from the 3rd world countries that eradicated our sense of togetherness and replaced it with savagery
Your problem is your perception, you are delusional and amplifying the bad parts of the world whilst ignoring the good.Also no one gets called and incel for being nice, come on now lmao
>>34205777I don't know, maybe. I'm tired of thinking. I'm tired of most things these days.
>>34204477>like you might've had in the old sitcomsso you've set your life goal to imitate fiction and wonder why reality isn't like fiction
>>34204564>No, now it makes you weak.No, it doesn't. Compassion, righteousness and gentleness still make you strong. You can still follow all of the advice in that book, as long as you do it for the sake of perfecting your own behavior and not for the sake of getting other people to treat you a certain way. If you're only adopting good behavior because you think that it will influence other people into treating you well, then that's a sign of weakness and dependence, and that's exactly the same kind of narcissism you're seeing and criticizing in others. The strong man does what's right and treats others well regardless of how they treat him. That's what it means to be self reliant, admirable and righteous.
>when you all read the same self help book
>>34205803it wasn't totally fiction. people liked and related to it because that was what we were like back then.
>>34204482>he thinks they are his friendsThis is like my worst nightmare and why I just avoid interacting too much with coworkers altogether. I’d hate to find out people were talking about me even though it certainly happens since I don’t really talk to anyone. Quite the conundrum.
>>34204477>How do i cope with everyone being horrible?Your vibe attracts your tribe+
>>34204477>I just want to be a wholesome guyYou're the furthest possible thing from being a wholesome guy if your opening salvo and guiding light is disdain for other people. Please understand this.
>its another other people are ugly and i hate them unlike me who is good and smart why doesnt anyone like me for being an obsequious polite doormat thread
>>34204482Yes, you're so different talking shit to us behind your coworker's back while being polite to them.
>>34206181at least if you never say anything to em they can only make assumptions about you never proven right>>34206226I'm not though.>>34206219Please, I haven't seen this topic in days of being on the board. >>34206207>vibefuck, is there anywhere online that's still high IQ white?
That's just your country, not the whole world
There are lots of mothers who take a lot of care to raise their kids right and have nothing to do with your culture or country in the first placebut yea i hate north america too. You created all of that, it's your problem. You are obviously not the only one who feels the way you do though. You would be stupid to think that you're the only onealso being countercultural, boldly nonconformist attracts the people you want and emboldens them to do what they want. It starts new waves. People will think "oh, someone else is doing it, so i can do it too. I felt like no one like that exists anymore. What a relief"im not from ur country but i am from a very high conformity place that has it's own cultural issues so im speaking from experience. I like where i live though.
>>34205820If you met someone that followed everything that was written in the op, I guarantee you would call him a massive pussy. You're part of the problem.
>>34207021and now its not enough to be a massive pussy as a guy, you can just go get a fake pussy now. fuck, did all the nice guys end up troons?
>>34204477Dude, did you even read the book?It's a book on sales. You fake being nice to get people into buying mood.Friendships don't come out of insults dumbass, they always have common interests, common background and a will to put effort to make something out of it. For couples it's physical attraction and emotional need. Only way to pull attractive girls is to not suffer. Only way to climb ranks of a rich people society is to become a fucking slave and invest blindly into their society, guaranteed you will be made part of it, and it's up to you to see something in them to remain.>>34204482You don't make sense out of it because, like me and lots of people here, you believed out of good will that life is like cartoons and what sunday bible study says. Well you should read up on biology and tell we're nothing but bullied rapist monkeys.You're lucky someone can tell you these things and you to notice them, but you can't do jackshit with that information, you're already halfway to death in your single only life. Your parents, school and friends betrayed you, they never had you in their best interest, it's always some god forsaken fear or shame they bend the rules for that got you. Your life is soiled and now it's up to you, Yes, only fucking you to solve it.And that's where I am so far. I believe I won't be able to be happy in life ever again. God I hope I'm mistaken and I just haven't seen something, but shit, none of this is the same anymore. I'm in the lowest I've known so far.
>>34207021No, I wouldn't say that about anyone. I believe in impartial love, compassion and generosity. Gentleness is a strength, not a weakness.But even if OP were to come across somebody who would call him names and shame him for being meek, that shouldn't matter. If you can be scared away from doing what's right by insults, then you don't love virtue enough and you haven't achieved a compassionate mindset. The ideal state is being able to treat everyone well in a glad spirit, even those who treat you poorly.
>>34207092>to not suffer.is this is a meme or tiktok trend or something? why is everyone saying this now?>you believed out of good will that life is like cartoons and what sunday bible study says. Well you should read up on biology and tell we're nothing but bullied rapist monkeys.see, you are saying this as if it was a lie, and I have watched multiple highly viewed youtubes echoing the same thing, going as far as to say that even wholesome friends is a lie, and the only ones you should actually confide in are your therapist, but as I have said it is not a lie, or wasn't at the time. If these values were a lie they would not have been big sellers back then, because no one could relate to it. It was true and has been stolen from us. The low-IQ inmates run the asylum.
>>34207177It was true then and it's still true now. It's less common and harder to find, but the principles of friendship exist immutably and eternally, no different from other principles like justice, beauty or honesty. Your own dedication to friendship can't be stolen from you, and the value of that dedication doesn't necessarily depend on finding others who are the same way. It's still worthwhile to be a good person even if you're the only one doing it. But if you can carry that attitude forward there's a chance you'll run into somebody who sees life in the same way and form a connection. Whereas if you abandon those principles now, then it guarantees that anyone who does believe in friendship will give you a wide berth.
