How can I convince my gf to leave her loser best friend who's a bad influence on her? It's not just me even her own mom hates her friend, too.
birds of a feather flock together
Depends why she's with her. Is she her only friend? Have they been friends a long time? Does you gf like being influenced?
>>34211431Yes.Since elementary school.She's very weak and spineless and only listens to her friend on life advice. Me and her mom try to give her advice and guidance, but it falls on deaf ears.
>>34211440What kind of advice, this is all very vague.If her friend advice doesn't lead to good things or her friends life is a mess you can gently point that out.
>>34211452She should get better jobs, meal prep since she's so lazy and doesn't want to make food, how she should consider taking classes or a skill to get better employment, learning how to drive, etc. The friend just tells her she needs to live her life and not worry about all that.
>>34211412Why are you with someone that will always do what someone else tells her? You're on the outside looking in and in a twisted way a push/pull relationship with her friend too. A friend that does not want her in a relationship with you and you will lose.
>>34211459So her friend likes her as she is and you and her mom think she isn't good enough and just rag on her the whole time?No wonder she'd rather have the friend lmao.You can't force people to change, the best you can do is be a good example and inspire them. Are you also in great shape and an amazing job and shit? if not work on yourself first
>>34211412god I hate you dad types
>>34211412>her own mom hates her friend, too.Then she is obligated to stay with her. Get Mom to approve of friend and she'll drop her
>>34211412Wife her. The friend too.
>>34211416Emphasis on birds
>>34211412She is like her friend. You just don't see it yet. Her mother is also probably the same.
>>34211412You can't. Only women decide when it's time to end a friendship, ive seen women stay friends with absolutely worthless cunts simply because they went to camp together and don't have shit else in common past that. If you want a good idea of how fragile and bullshit a woman's friendship is, watch Jennifer's body.
>>34211894This, it all starts with mom. If she likes this friend that much then chances are she's exactly like her in ways OP isn't seeing.
>>34211459>The friend just tells her she needs to live her life and not worry about all that.Her friend is a bad influence, you're right. I was also a deadbeat who had no education, career, goals, aspirations or motivation. I also couldn't clean after myself or cook for myself. And I also kept loser friends and we formed a nice echo chamber where we'd enable each other into being deadbeats. She has to want to learn these things. Now ask yourself: Someone nags you incessantly to tell you to do things, nags you constantly and harps on and on and on about it, pointing out all of your shortcomings and failures, even ganging up on you with your own mother or father. The humiliation of having both the person who raised you & the person who 'loves' you mutually agreeing you are a fuck-up?Imagine that for a second and ask the following: Would you want that? What you want to be forced to want it? Would you have a single hopeful or positive thought about changing and doing better when you have the voices of two shrieking banshees battering your mind with messages of how you're a fuck-up? No one would want to change for that, they would just end up wanting the far opposite, because at least then they'd feel free. Maybe if you actually allowed her to be as she is and just focused on your own shit she'd be inspired by you and would want to do better to keep up.
>>34211472No one asked, roastie.
>>34212157>>34211468>work on yourselfI already did. I lift, I eat well, I work, I even tried to motivate her to workout with me, bought things for her so she could follow her passions and hobbies(voice acting, book writing, candle making, etc), and she hasn't touched it once. I'm at a point where I'm just going to focus on myself 100% of the time and possibly leave if things don't get better on her end in the coming months. Given she is jobless and her funds are quickly running out, that has to spark some sort of motivation on her end to do something, or I guess she'll be fine being broke and larping as a teen with her friend as a 28 year old.
