There is no board that is the right one right to ask this question, /k/ is the closest so i'm asking it here.In the next six months there is a very good chance i am going to have a dead body on my property, either via suicide or old age. I live in a very inaccessible area and i might not find it for a day or two. So what do i do when i find him? Get to the nearest cell location, call 911 and say 'hey i've got a copse for you to pick up, bring a snow machine?'
>>34229401yeah
Just kill yourself :^)
Corpses don't rot so fast. Just all them with a flat and autistic tone
>>34229401>call 911 and say 'hey i've got a copse for you to pick up, bring a snow machine?'pretty much. just don't say it like that.
>>34229402>>34229403So helpful. I see you that don't have any loved ones in your lives.
>>34229401call 911, report that there is someone who appears to be unconscious and ask for EMS.
>>34229405Where i live that is more or less how it works from what i can tell, it just seems so undignified and i haven't deal with this before. I'm going to have to deal with it sooner than later, if anyone has tips on how to deal with a friend's remains i'd like to hear it.
>>34229401If someone died on your property, call the authorities.
>>34229407>Call 911There is no cell service where i live.
>>34229408find caius and bring back the wiki
>>34229410Detonate a small nuke.
>>34229410Not even a landline? drive somewhere that has call service and alert the authorities. Maybe your neighbor has a landline or something.
OP you mind explaining why you are asking about dealing with a dead body?
>>34229401>In the next six months there is a very good chance i am going to have a dead body on my property, either via suicide or old age.What sort of shit are you into now, Norktard? And why are you so sure that someone will end up dead on your property
I should do CPR and life checks, open a eye and poke it to get a response and if that doesn't do anything he is dead. I know all that. What happens after that is what i'm asking.So EMS shows up, hauls him off his body and then what? I have to do identification, custody disputes then pay for his body disposal?This isn't a LARP or joke thread, i need to know how to do this because i am going to have to deal with it in the near future.
>>34229401Just do a little math, you don't wanna end up like those guys who tired blowing up a whale.
>>34229414>>34229415I have a old guy who is a friend that i owe that let live in one of my houses for free. He might die or commit suicide in the near future so he doesn't have to live in a old folks home. Either way i will have to clean it up and report it.
>>34229410Satellite phone, retard>>34229416>I have to do identification,Either you or relatives will identify the body>custody disputes Custody disputes for what, exactly? Are you legally obligated to be the individuals guardian?>then pay for his body disposal?Are you related? If not, then either the relatives will pay for his burial or the state will if the guy has no family willing to prepare funeral services.Now answer my question here >>34229415
>>34229401That question is based on a number of factors that have to be sorted out such as where's the source of the body what caused the death, where do you live what's the location what's the environment what's the culture are you in the city or you rual
when you came pulling in here did you notice a sign out front that said dead nigger storage?
>>34229401Call the police, tell them that you found what you think is a dead body, explain what you were doing/how you found it, and follow their directions. Don’t mess with the body, or do anything else with it, even out of respect. Now, if there’s any suspicion of foul play, they’re going to do talk with you and you may have to deal with them repeatedly coming and going from the scene/sectioning off part of your property for a time. >>34229416>CPRUnless you’re professionally trained, don’t do this. Even if you are, I’m not so sure how helpful that’d be outside of very specific circumstances. Again, if you’re certain they’re dead, leave them be.May I ask why you’re asking this? Under your trip, nonetheless? You’re not thinking of something stupid, I hope.
>>34229401>im a retarded tripfag trying desperately to get attentionthis is you, not weapons related
If it's self-defense and you live in a stand your ground state don't mess around with the corpse so be considered a suspicious and an attempt to destroy evidence. I'm assuming this is self-defense also do not set a trap or make it appear that you are setting up a trap that would be considered murder premeditated. And if you're going to a situation where you know you're going to have a self-defense your gun will be confiscated during the investigation so don't use anything you can't part with. Get a good lawyer on retainer or make them aware that you may have a self-defense situation approaching. Don't talk to the cops without a lawyer present, they will try to improve to you. But if you're talking about something else it's the standard shoot shovel and shut up
>>34229418>He might die or commit suicide in the near future so he doesn't have to live in a old folks home.How old is the individual? Is he sick to the point where he'll need constant medical supervision/care? Why would he want to commit suicide to prevent going into a retirement home if you're providing residence to him for free?>Either way i will have to clean it up and report it.There are professional services to help clean up after someone kills themselves or dies in a home. Just let the authorities do what they need to do before your autistic ass does something stupid that will result in you being imprisoned
>>34229416>I should do CPR and life checks, open a eye and poke it to get a response and if that doesn't do anything he is dead.I don't recommend touching the body. EMS shows up, notifies the morturary unit/medical examiner. they haul the body out. meanwhile you will be questioned by the police. you may have to ID the body and notify the next of kin. After a few days or so, you will receive the death certificate. If he left a will, find it. If you know he's going to die in 6 months, get him into a hospital or call the suicide prevention hotline.
>>34229419> Are you legally obligated to be the individuals guardian?Yes in this context.>either the relatives will pay for his burial or the state will if the guy has no family willing to prepare funeral services.No they will not, they would rather dump in in a ditch than pay a penny. He has no family or people who care about him, only me.He is a senior citizen who wanted to die out in the woods, i gave him a house so he could do that. I'm just planning out how the cleanup works.
Im not reading the whole thread so I'll ask here1. Is this person related to you?2. Do you have any legal interest or otherwise in the property where they will die?3. Look into biohazard cleanup services in your area, there are in fact companies that clean up extreme biohazard for crime scenes and other applications.4. How is related to Best Korea?
>>34229416After you contact the authorities, typically there's some form of police investigation, this might be cursory or detailed depending on the circumstances. Be prepared to explain yourself, but if the cops try anything regarding railroading you always remember you can stop answering questions whenever you want. Things they'll ask: why was he living here, when did you find him, how often did you see him, when did you last see him, what was he like, was he suicidal, did you tell anyone, did you lend him any weapons, and generally if it's a pretty obvious suicide they'll snoop around for a good couple hours while the body is being taken to the nearest morgue. After this point the crime scene tape will come down sometime in the next days/week, and then you'll need to hire a crime scene cleaner or clean it yourself, the cops/sheriff might be able to recommend someone. I'd have some form of mobile phone or sat phone to reach the sheriff, and remember to be honest but not to overshare just in case. Questions will be fewer if it is natural causes, but you will most likely still be regarded as a person of interest if you discover the body.
>>34229427you do realize you will have to answer why he was there in the first place, right? but yeah you or the state will probably have to pay for it.
>>34229425>>34229426I'm not worried that anyone would think it's my fault, however it's 16 miles to the nearest paved road with no cell coverage. I'm mostly worried about the correct way to respectfully deal with it in a situation where he might have been dead for a few days, hopefully not in warm weather. It is a issue i've been having to think about lately, there are several people that i might be the one to discover have died and i'd be the only one who cared enough to clean up afterwards.
>>34229427>Yes in this context.Is there a court order/verifiable legal documents that places you in charge of the individual? Or is this more of a case of "I feel bad for the guy so I want to make him comfortable until he inevitably offs himself because he's that depressed" >>34229427>He is a senior citizen who wanted to die out in the woodsIs there paper trail that states this, or are there other individuals that can verify the reasoning as to why there's a dead guy on your property? >He has no family or people who care about him, only me.If you're not willing to pay for a funeral, because they are expensive, then you need to ask him if he wants to be cremated or if he prefers a simple burial plot in a local graveyard>I'm just planning out how the cleanup works.Then Google this stuff, you sound like you plan on killing the guy because he owes you a shit ton of money
>I gave him a place to kill himselfThis is going to earn you a trip to the station>I dont know officer, I guess he was just a lonely sad man.This
I'm going to keep my eyes open for any weird shit that fits this description in any news, if it pops up I'm giving this thread to whatever local law enforcement is in that area.
Get a transceiver
This really seems to just boil down to "what to do for cleanup"Bunch of anons have already said, contact a biohazard cleanup company if he died inside. You could very well end up with a situation where he dies outside and if its as rural as you say, nature may take care of things for a bit before you find him.Is this property is on substantial acreage? any risk of him wandering off and this being a missing person case initially?
For all those asking why i am worrying about have old people dying on my property: I have alot of acreage and several cabins. I let my friends use them whenever they want. Lately one of them (76 yo) is staying there year round since he has no where else to go. He can stay forever, i don't care. However given his situation and personal health issues he is probably going to die there. I just want advice on dealing with the aftermath.
>>34229437Even easier to keep an eye on the news.
>>34229436Pretty much this.
>>34229437>I just want advice on dealing with the aftermath.youve been told several times that you should call a biohazard cleanup company. If we assume this is out someplace SO rural that no company will go out there then, yes its on you so either get the bleach and start scrubbing or burn the cabin down, but then where would his ghost go?County will most likely cremate the body if he has no relatives so you wont need to do anything about the body after its off your property. Just scrub up (or throw out) what he may have leaked on. Dies outside? just turn the dirt over
>>34229410If you have T-Mobile you unironically can get Starlink augmented cell coverage if your phone is new enough to support that stuff.
>>34229436>s this property is on substantial acreage? any risk of him wandering off and this being a missing person case initially?46 acres, Appalachian 100 mile woods near Jackman Maine. If it isn't April he's a popsicle. Unorganized territory, i could just leave him and no one would notice.I don't want to do that, he is my friend. I just am not sure how to deal with it legally, practically and emotionally.
>>34229440>youve been told several times that you should call a biohazard cleanup company. If we assume this is out someplace SO rural that no company will go out there then, yes its on you so either get the bleach and start scrubbing or burn the cabin down, but then where would his ghost go?Not a option, my options are a shovel and a one page $50 family cemetery form submitted to the county which i'll probably end up doing.
>>34229441https://www.pcmag.com/news/tmobile-cellular-starlink-tsatellite-launch-everything-you-need-to-know>>34229442Assuming everything you're writing is truthful:I had to unironically act as the sane rational, logical and emotionally stable person for a relative who had one of their members die in the morning. Too much of an emotional wreck to process it on their end while their body of their SO was still in bed (treatment complications for a disease). Basically you call the police (or 911) and report it as someone dying in the home and wait for them to arrive. My experience was that the paramedics came out with someone from the funeral home. Paramedics basically checked for life and confirmed death, write papers and the funeral home staff came and took their body after confirming everything with the relative.
>>34229442>legallyStart searching for steps to do as a landlord when there is a death of a tenant in your state. Youve said youre letting him live there for free, assuming you have no paper trail or anything for this, its going to be treated as a crime scene initially. A few anons have already given good advice on how to handle that. you need to be VERY careful from this point on so that anything you say or do, does not implicate negligence on your part. Doesnt matter what you think, the law will see you as someone ignoring a persons calls for help when suicidal and then you did nothing to assist then and in many cases your actions could be viewed as aiding them (Check your states laws)>practicallyAs posts above, hire cleanup company. Or do it yourself. >emotionallyYoure autistic, nothing will help with this part.
>>34229443You obviously have the money. Just call a biohazard company to clean the place and bury the dude in a cemetary, Norktard.
>>34229443Your county may or may not have an indigent cremation program to have respectful processing of remains if they don't have any support from the next of kin and have nothing in their bank accounts.
>>34229445>A few anons have already given good advice on how to handle that. you need to be VERY careful from this point on so that anything you say or do, does not implicate negligence on your part. Doesnt matter what you think, the law will see you as someone ignoring a persons calls for help when suicidal and then you did nothing to assist then and in many cases your actions could be viewed as aiding them (Check your states laws)Yeah Norktard assuming everything you're saying is honest and truthful check if your state has mandatory reporting laws:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_reporting_in_the_United_StatesYou genuinely can get fucked over legally for not reporting a suicidal senior citizen especially from the perspective of being a landlord. Its fucked in a way in that suicidal people aren't allowed to commit sodoku themselves if others know they want to while simultaneously right to die exists in the same state type bullshit but I must emphasize genuinely you can get massive legal blowback.
>>34229444My problem is he is going to die on my property, he should be in a old folks home however i have a very strict rule: If you need a SWAT team to get Grandpa into the old folks home he doesn't need to be there. He would rather kill himself or die in a shootout before you put him in a home, i'm just going to leave him alone and let him stay. He is a close friend of mine, he is just old and crazy. He is doing fine. I'm just trying to figure out what i should do when he dies and /k/ has been very helpful.Thank you all, i love all of you.
>>34229450Genuinely you want to talk about life planning with him and try to be gentle as possible to coax him to live instead of sodokuing early over whatever current suffering and ailments plague him now. If your state is unironically a right to die it might be more comfortable for him to take that option in a better environment with some of his close friends instead of dying alone innacabin when he feels the time is right instead of feeling like he wants to go at it soon.
>>34229451>for him to take that option in a better environment with some of his close friendsTo clarify because I missed a word and I'm sure that changes the meaning in some people's minds>with some of his close friends nearby (ex: when he is about to pass)To give him comfort when he wants to go because some people are terminally ill like that.
>>34229401You get to find out just how bullshit ballistic gel tests really are.
>/k/ - Estate and Indignant Life Planning
>>34229449I'm not his landlord in a normal sense, i leased him one acre for $1 for his natural life and those of any of his direct blood relatives for 3 generations assuming they were alive at the time of his death. I would have just given him a acre but in unincorporated Maine you can't subdivide less than 40 acres. It goes to his child and grandchild if they want it, he is a descendant of the Proctors from the Salem witch trials so i have no problem with having the ghost of a witch infesting my property. I'm sure you all think that last bit is BS larping but it is true. The guy's ancestor got hanged so i'll bend over backwards for him. He is also a excellent mechanic.
>>34229455Yeah check for mandatory reporting regardless because that's still legally a lease under state beliefs if he's kind of the guy who wants to sodoku instead of suffering from disease/oold age. If he passes of natural causes as an old dude, that's pretty much that when it comes to the paramedics checking and signing off. I don't know how indignant cremation would work in your area (literally check your county because that's how those programs work) especially given the weird lease agreement you have like that (as in I don't know if you're technically considered his financial support by welfare program standards.)Given he's a good friend maybe you'll have a project making a grave marker for him if there's anything about the ashes coming back or if there's no program to take his body.Also unironically I am not sure if he actually counts as your dependent for tax code purposes because of said "quasi-lease." Does he pay for his own food or do provide him support? This is unironically related to the former about county programs for cremation because this kind of legalanese and financial crap is how those programs count things in effect.>Remembering you're an adult with adult responsibilities all while being on 4chinz stillNo wonder zoomers call us boomers.
>>34229451Trust me i've tried however the problem is he is damn near invincible. He is a retired mechanic who was a semi pro boxer in his youth, he is utterly incapable of understanding that he is really old. He can sort of back it up, when he needs to he moves like a snake and still has the moves if he is sober. He is also really tall for a old guy, about 6' 7'.In boxing terms he has alot of reach but he just can't understand that he is really old and repeats his words constantly and can't drink as much as he used to, so of course he gets really drunk faster than he should. I've on three occasions offered to buy him a house instead of staying with his abusive wife but he will not listen to me. I'm stuck with the guy.
>>34229456>Grave marker projectAs in consider a wooden one like the slavs have but in whatever Western fashion. You make it sound like he's a cool dude relative to people you know. Just a little something for the guy even if nobody else remembers him at least.>>34229457Ah yeah try not to talk about it like its a near term thing, just maybe give him an understanding if he wants to take a way out that it doesn't have to be killing himself alone and that he can go in company of his closest friends who will see him off while he's in a comfy bed and that it isn't one of those situations where he'll feel hesitant since right to die is taken fairly seriously (state and medical system). Just something he can fall back on instead of feeling like he's kind of desperate in a "use it now" option of sodoku and that'll decrease the chances of him kind of spontaneously picking sodoku over ailments and pain one day.>Abusive wifeYou wanna tell a little about how a guy lives to 76 in a shitty marriage that he hasn't divorced him? inb4 he's in the "I'm old and I want to stick with my wife."
>>34229401Just want to say youre my favorite trip on /k/ currently and more importantly to be sure to pay attention to your own health during these times. Its very easy to just start skipping or missing meals without even realizing it.
>>34229456He can take care of himself most of the time, he just drinks bud light instead of water. A few months ago he decided to engage the 'rock climbing mode' on his Bronco which costs more than my house. While he was going up a 300 foot hill covered with snow. Do you know what locked front and rear wheels do on a bronco in snow on a 30 degree slope next to a ravine? They result in Norktard spending a week using pulleys to pull it out of the ravine.
>>34229401I have some recent information on this very subject.. My wife's cousins recently found their grandmother dead in front of her home in a rural location in Central Texas. In June. She had been dead awhile, they knew something was wrong when they pulled up because there were buzzards on the fence, roof of her house and several flew out of the yard. They smelled a strong smell of rotting flesh. And when they walked up to the short yard gate, that's when they saw her and figured out it was her by the general shape of the torn up body and some clothes still on her corpse. Fair amount of flies as well they said. She was a heavy drug user, and from what I understand, her death was determined to be drug related. She mostly lived alone, I believe she was in her late 60's. She was considered one of the biggest problem child of their family. They just stepped back, called 911 and things took off from there. Not much to clean up, just a bodily fluid patch in the clay/limestone soil that her son scooped up with a shovel and dumped further away from the house in a field nearby after the coroner took what was left of the body. No face, eyes gone, guts and major organs gone. Closed casket, no salvaging the body for any kind of showing. Cops asked questions, when was the last time she was seen alive, last known time of contact, anyone else coming or going or staying with her. In another similar situation, a friend from work had to deal with his brothers house after he found his brother rotting in the living room.. The coroner takes the body, but clean up is on whoever ends up with the home and dealing with it.. He tried to clean it up himself.. By the second day I figured out what he was doing. I pulled him into the break room alone and told him he was in over his head.. That there are experts who deal with it and that it's the only effective way to deal with it. That there were things going on in that house he didn't even know about. I asked him if he noticed a cont.
>>34229460Okay he legally might not qualify as indignant for state programs (isn't poor enough to qualify, technically housed) in regards to cremation programs run by the county/state if he's able to feed himself but I don't think he'd be considered your charge or dependent (if he's able to feed himself financially) either but who actually takes ownership of cremation charges is a question mark to me at this point.
>>34229428>>34229436Yeah so Norktard if he dies in the middle of summer and its a few days between you and you checking up on him and his body is turning nasty like >>34229461 is bringing up (and continuing to while I write this) you'd have to call up biohazard/remediation companies after the death cert/removal of body part. Literally there are companies that deal with this stuff at a professional level and kind of know how to deal with the smells/stuff that gets absorbed into surfaces.
>>34229461black ring near the ceiling on the walls of the room his brother was found.. He looked surprised and said "yeah. What is that?". I explained it was the grease from the fats in his brothers body, dragged up there by all of the bacteria that got involved as they climbed looking the nearest vertical surface looking for more oxygen as they massively consumed the oxygen in the room.. And that those fats and bacteria have infiltrated everything going from his body to that ring. He looked up and got professional help after that quick conversation. Crazy part is he sold the place barely 3 months later. Didn't even remodel or replace what the cleanup people ripped out. But it was in Austin Texas 5 years ago and the housing market there was beyond on fire at the time. Hell, he got way over asking. So yeah, just call 911 and then get a dead body cleanup crew in there if he got badly decayed. It's annoying, but it's pretty common.
>>34229459Thank you and don't worry:>Its very easy to just start skipping or missing meals without even realizing it.Don't worry about that, i'm built like a moderately chubby Ork. Yesterday i was used as a ladder to clean off two feet of snow and ice from a trailer.
>>34229401Is this your alcoholic friend that's down bad? Shit must be bleak if you've gotten me to reply to you without calling you a debased commie-simping tripfag.
>>34229466Yes, i am worried about having to deal with a older friend dying and how i am going to deal with that on a practical level. Several of them in fact you fucking moron.The DPRK aren't Commies, they are a Monarchy but i'd rather not have political arguments at the moment.
Everyone here is talkimg about legal issues, which is important, but double check your insurance to see if they'll cover a body cleanup in one of your houses. That shit's expensive.
>>34229401Get him help BEFORE he offs himself you fucking turbosperg retard
>>34229459Whats the deal with skipping meals in particular?
>>34229468Yeah I think everyone is worried about Norktard's 'tism getting him into trouble given how he comes off.
>>34229431>I'm mostly worried about the correct way to respectfully deal with it in a situation where he might have been dead for a few days, hopefully not in warm weather. It is a issue i've been having to think about lately, there are several people that i might be the one to discover have died and i'd be the only one who cared enough to clean up afterwards.I've always enjoyed your threads so I hope for your sake you see this.A body left for a few days in potentially warm weather will be fucking foul. If you genuinely think he's gonna kill himself then you might want to respectfully ask him to do it outside. My condolences for your loss.
Call 911, report the dead body, let the police/EMS/coroner handle it. The moment you start fucking with a body is when you start racking up felonies.
you're hiding Heisenberg, aren't you, Norktard? prepare for LOTS of questioning
>>34229401Yea. I believe you're legally obligated to report dead bodies to authorities.
>>34229401Yes. See, that wasn't such a hard question after all.
