Call me an SJW, but ever since I was a teen, I made the deliberate choice to not wear makeup, shave my legs, or do many of the foid beauty regiment crap because I thought it unequal, unnecessary, and shallow. I still look presentable because I occasionally work out, enjoy fashion, and am hygienic, but I'm in no way a stunner that a guy would immediately jump for. This was always something I'm okay with. I get along better with nerds and outcasts who wouldn't mind that and go after me because of personality and shared interests.The issue now is that I met a guy who is completely compatible with me and loves my personality. However, he is a looksmaxxer and spends at least two hours a day on extra working out and grooming. The two of us are extremely blunt people, and after I asked him out and received a maybe, he admitted it was my lack of taking pride in my appearance that was a factor in the maybe. For the record, he's also learning how to flirt because I challenged him to. I know I may be having my cake and eating it too, but does anyone here have advice on becoming more attractive without falling into pickme-ism and issues with self-image? I'm less looking for practical beauty advice and more for perspectives on the mentality that goes into these things from a femanon perspective. tyia
And if anyone is wondering, I've added two more steps into my skincare routine, plucked my eyebrows, chopped off my split ends, and started working out more often
>>34261811Maleanon here. Used to date a woman with similar attitude to you but she was very confident about it and, imo, very attractive. I think it comes down to doing what you feel comfortable and caring less about what other people think. If you want to try out something new, don't worry about thinking if it's unnecessary or shallow, just humor your curiosity. Wanting to do something for your partner's sake is an okay reason too.
not a female perspective, i´m a guy. i personally recoil if there is too much effort/makeup on a womans part. i´m in the minority, but i prefer a bit of sleaze. i remember falling for a girl initially and then realizing she shaved her eyebrows to a mcdonalds m when i saw her up close & instantly losing all interest.at some point it becomes vanity, 2 hours a day for grooming is excessive, fitness excluded.
>>34261811if he was "completely compatible" with you he wouldnt care about you not wearing makeup. also why would you want to date some looksmaxxing fag anyway
>>34261811So you are going to change yourself to get a guy who is out of your league looks wise?Be realistic, you are always going to be a side plate to this guy.I don't think you should compromise who you are.
>>34261811Bimbofy yourself for him, as a joke.
>>34261811This might be slightly unrelated but as a man I totally prefer girls who don't wear makeup and I don't mind some body hair either desu, it's only natural. Anyhow best of luck with the guy.
>>34261811Make-up is really not needed, but shaving will make you look better.
>>34261811>I made the deliberate choice to not wear makeup, shave my legs, or do many of the foid beauty regiment oh my god this is incidentally exactly what I wanted to hearNot suspicious at all
I ended up having a conversation with him last night about this, and we figured it out. We were speaking about different standards of beauty regiments, and my disgust with beauty (waking up hours early to do makeup, expensive "maintenance" things done at salons, etc.) was reasonable in his mind. He thought my disgust toward that was about the things he was doing. This isn't going to be a closed subject, but I'm moving forward with >>34261851 's advice, and I won't be shaving til we date for real since that opinion is actually based on experience. Thank you all
I only wear makeup when going to parties.Here's what guys perfer(personal experience): long healthy hair, smooth skin, no large moles/lots freckles/discoloration, if you can make your waist look thinner, shave, hydrated lips, well shaped eyebrows
>>34265018+ the biggest bbl ass a surgeon is legally allowed to make
>>34261811Ok soI moisturize and wear sun screen and try to take care of my skin. I pluck my eyebrows because I like how it looks. I pluck random mole hairs. I try to keep my nails trimmed and clean. I take pride in my appearance. That appearance just happens to include my natural body hair (minus the mole and eyebrow hairs) and only wearing makeup for special occasions.If he's the kind of guy who wants you to wear perfume and get your nails done and you don't want to do that you should quit now t b h.
>>34261811Literally nothing wrong with being a SJW.
>>34261811>foidYou are a male incel pretending for internet clout
>>34261811From the Hagakure:"Every morning the samurai of 50 or 60 years ago would bathe, shave their foreheads, put lotion in their hair, cut their fingernails and toe nails rubbing them with pumice and then with wood sorrel and without fail pay attention to their personal appearance. It goes without saying their armor in general was kept free from rust, that it was dusted, shined and arranged. Although it seems that taking care of one’s appearance is similar to showiness, it is nothing akin to elegance."Pride comes before the fall, so fuck fashion.When I became homeless and my priorities changed drastically, I spent a lot of time grooming myself whereas before I would not spend a single minute. The outer reflects the inner. We do not want to be judged by appearances, but every book has a title and there are many books you will not read because of the title or videos you will not watch because of the thumbnail which you may otherwise enjoy. So... Rather than rejecting body image fashion crap, just... create your own image! Btw, looksmaxxing is retarded and I hope he is not shallow and airheaded.
>>34261811>I made the deliberate choice to not wear makeup, shave my legs, or do many of the foid beauty regiment crapSo did I. But I am male
>>34266391Man this joke cracked me up... kys
>>34261811you gotta be retarded if you're on purpose not grooming yourself as a societal message. I'm a straight male (with penis) and I shave my pits and pubes because I get uncomfortable and I genuinely feel dirty otherwise.
>>34261814Read through everything here, it’s mostly BS.What you’re asking is pointless. What you should be doing is asking HIM what he likes, and adjusting your looks to sync with his desires. Let me explain why.Looks are going to fade, soon you’ll hit 30 and the eggs are dry. Your reason for a relationship is gone. If he’s going to stay - you need to be what he wants. Everything comes down to biology. Don’t believe me? Look at the data relating to what age various aged M/F are attracted to. You were born because of reproduction, your existence is for reproduction. Everything else that people run around worrying about is a falling snowflake that melts after it touches your eyelashes.Happiness is trust, honesty, and depending on your partner.
