It's nearly impossible. Dating apps suck, going outside is worthless, bars don't work, and finding hobby groups are also worthless. I'm pretty sure people are just lying about their relationship status.
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I don't know. the only people I match with are cripplingly self loathing or part of the hive mind. I'd find a nice femboy if I were you to kiss and snug instead of some money hungry foid
>>34264448fpbp
>>34264445>I am a failure so to protect my ego I'm going to invent an alternate reality where its not my fault I'm a failure because everyone is a failure and there's nothing I can doGood luck with that
>>34264445If have no social circle, then try asking out women from your job or hobby groups, church, clubs, ANYTHING. That's life, you have to move inquiry and search, always has been that way really. Nobody is going to magically put women in your door.Now imagine: When you search for a job, do you expect a big paying company sending a recruiter to your home? It is an absolutely stupid thought, isn't it?
>>34264445Dating apps DO suck, but so does your attitude. Exercise, get your confidence up, and put yourself out there. Quietly accept your position in the looks hierarchy like the rest of us. Trying to date up is called being a hopeless romantic. Trying to date down is called being a whore/slut or settling. Your choice OP.
>>34264445>, going outside is worthless, bars don't work, and finding hobby groups are also worthless.You know this as a fact, despite having never tried them.
>>34264445I don't know. I got laid a few times this way, I've just accepted this is it.
>>34264445Most don't date.
>>34264445You should have found a boyfriend/girlfriend in school, it's what I did, if I hadn't found a boyfriend while at Uni I probably wouldn't have one now
>>34264839>Trying to date up is called being a hopeless romantic.Not really. The two are not even connected. A hopeless romantic might date down. The delusion of love might create this situation.
I'm a 34 year old virgin loser. Why would I want to torture someone else with my presence? It's futile.
You'll figure it out. It just takes learning.
You just shut the door on almost every realistic way people meet and get into relationships. Perception is not reality.I met my girlfriend through a series of community violin classes simply because I decided to shoot my shot and was genuinely curious about her as a person. Sometimes it really is that straightforward.
>>34265062You can't torture a Thai masseuse. Try get a deep tissue oil massage. It will literally change your entire life. And if you got money, they will do anything you please. I was 100x more of a incel virgin loner than you, we are about the same age also. I gave Thai masseuse a chance in January. I'm treating it like a exposing therapy/being comfortable and positive experience with women. It literally have changed my pessimistic view on women. First time felt awkward and cringe. But after few sessions you will feel like a baby again. These Asian women sure know how to take care of a man
>>34264470>nice femboythe passing ones (the ones you want) are more picky than women
>>34264470>part of the hive mind.Stop believing memes. They are guaranteeing your misery.
>>34264502This, OP isn't even trying to hide his cope.
>>34265062>Why would I want to torture someone else with my presence? It's futileDid you ever stop and think that maybe this attitude is exactly why you ended up a 34 year old virgin loser?
>>34265987NTA but I don't think he or anyone comes out of the womb feeling that way about themselves.
>>34264816>Now imagine: When you search for a job, do you expect a big paying company sending a recruiter to your home? It is an absolutely stupid thought, isn't it?if you're gonna need a job to exist, then yes, you should have a right to a job of some sort that they will figure out for you
>>34266002I didn't say he did. But at some point in the intervening 34 years between now and then, he obviously started to.
>>34266007What?
>>34264445>How do people date nowadays?They don't. Dating is now ontologically impossible. Those 2 million+ people who got married in 2024? They never dated, not once. They paid a marriage broker to set something up and only met on their wedding day.
I don't know. I never had a date in my entire life.
>>34264445My lust died the second I wrote the average feminine nature on paper and stratified it according to its moral nature. I am now convinced that the only thing you are supposed to do as a soul, as a man is to wrestle your own flesh into submission, find God and develop a prosperous and altruistic relationship with our creator in order to escape this prison. 99% of women are half humans with no souls, everything they strive for and enjoy is ultimately evil in its nature. The very core of femininity is absolute evil that seeks to devour good men with the same glee and joy youd get from stomping out some dorky kids sand castle.Once I realized why women are the way they are, it's like I've finally been enlightened as to why hermit monks become hermits in the first place. It's all a lie, its all a joke. This planet is a prison, women are archons who genuinely don't give a fuck about anything but they have to pretend to have interests beyond themselves just so men dont become suspicious and notice the huge disparity in the nature of each gender. It's not a complimentary nature, it's completely one-sided and parasitic. The entire role of women is to entrap a mans life force and pull another soul onto this false reality incarnation trap. That's all they were designed to do. Satan takes a hold of their hivemind vessels with comedic ease and no resistance. They are all beyond corrupt, they fall apart once a month and endure pain unless they fulfill their ill-natured task. There is nothing in this world worth striving for besides Gods love. There is absolutely NOTHING in this world that is worth your place in heaven.
>>34265987I'm diagnosed with avoidant personality disorder and other issues. I think of myself as subhuman and inferior to everyone. I see no point in interacting with the outside world so I never leave my house. I see everyone else as human and I see myself as unworthy of being around them. I can't see why anyone would want to be around me
>>34265861False. Femboys are just radical. Women are extreme by default but not radical..
>>34266007trvke
>>34264445Go outside and talk to girls
>>34266262ain’t reading allat but here’s your (You)
>>34265962Chatbot detected>>34264502That is not what was said or alluded to. And the logical end of your comment is: feel bad. Lol wtf? Anyway, how tf is describing the environment anything to do with op? You are seeing the same thing no matter where you are. This is a global thing happening everywhere. >>34264839>so does your attitudeTranslation: don't be realistic. Be ignorant and prostrate yourself before m' lady Nigger I've been putting in 1-5.5 hours per day for 3 weeks straight looking for girls to approach and there are less than 10 in most outings that aren't old or children, and I'm counting ones with boyfriends, so they're not even all approachable. And from there were left with 4 or less and then from there they have to meet my arbitrary standards AND THEN they have to be approachable. and the pickings are SLIM. I think every 2 or 3 outingsi get in 1 approach and I'm even approaching girls I don't want just to do a rep (I don't eant these girls and won't call them even if I get their number). The low number of approaches has nothing to do with fear or intimidation so any chatbots here can just skip that shit. It's dead out there. We need a war to shake things up a bit and get em moving again. Hopefully about a billion die at least. We need something on that order to reset this all. And no this isn't about ~~~~~puuuuussyyyyyyy~~~~ as you degenerate retards project. It's about life in general not flowing or resembling normality.
>>34264445I feel like a lot of people who met their SOs did so at school or at work. At least this is the case for most people I know.
>>34264445Literally get off of 4Chan for 2 months and you'll turn into a normalfag
>>34266262This, except that women could still be worth having fun with and playing house with, if you were allowed to handle them with the required authority. The childish shit you are required to humor and straight up abuse that society requires you to tolerate has risen to an unbelievable level.Current society is like an idiot bowing to a goose, interpreting every quack as a sign that you must worship harder, while letting it peck your eyes out, and people who don't follow it are treated like they are crazy. The goose has tamed the human.(This also applies to literal gooses by the way, in my country they are allowed to take over parks and literally shit up the lawn and we are not allowed to get rid of them).For people who still don't understand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVbFnMr7b8
>>34267132Doesn't change the fact that it is hard to meet single people though
>>34264445School, work, classes, church, meetups, sport groups, volunteering, online dating and via friends
>>34270102I tried school, work, and dating sites and am a 31 yo virgin now. Never had a date in my life. I’m also taller than most men.
>>34270172Well you haven't tried all the methods I've mentioned yet
>>34270172if i were to be 31 with no dating experiencei would onefocus entirely on experience maxingi.e. do everything touristy in your area and nearby citiesgo to those trendy insta restaurants, trendy food spots, burger spotsliterally just experience thingsor spend money on travelingand hire photographers to hang out with you for a day (local ones) they may even show you some nice spots and you'll get tons of good pictures of yourselfbut most of all, you'll be doing it simply to enrich your lifenow you have stories, photos, and a fucking lifewhich is all the prerequisites to get a gfMost people are simply not doing enough with their timenot experienceing thingsjust do it by yourself
>>34272505the only thing I want to experience is a legal aged white girl stepping on my face. I don’t want anything else in life, cuddling would be my second pick. I haven’t taken a photo of myself in 6 years because of how much I am rejected. I have been rejected by every girl I ask out.
>>34272510everyone does brotherso you have to backwards engineer the processgirls just want an experienced guy who is calm under many situationsget yourself experience
When I was 10 or 11, had a crush on a girl in my class. During a sleepover at my best friends house, we discovered we both liked the same girl, RIP my chances. So eventually the secret was out for both of us and I made no moves. One day, happened to overhear said girl in conversation with her friends>you know chad likes you? >yea>what about anon?>eww gross>RIP my ego. Sad to say every foid I've interacted with since that day 25 years ago, has the same attitude towards me. RIP my personality.
>>34264445Festivals are one of the best ways to meet lots of new people, if you can afford to go to a festival that's based on music you like you are bound to find like minded individuals. I met my gf in an unusual way, we were on a group in telegram and both agreed to go camping with a group of people who were also in the chat. Also made some friends for life.
>>34272512I notice women always act like I’m not threatening but then I see online they think incels are scary. And I’ve beat people up. I’m not afraid to fight. I’m also taller than any guy I ever met. I don’t cover myself in insecurities like most women do, and yet they act like I’m a baby. I think it’s because I’m white. White women HATE white males. They think you cannot be offensive to them and act like we aren’t human.
Quit your job and go to university again, the problem with forming of family is the step where you actually get to start talking to women, losing virginity, going through the whole dating/hookup experience and if you're still a 30 virgin its impossible to do that outside of uni, there's no way to start the whole process. University will let you start the whole proces of getting your life together. First school and then friends of friends, that's how it always worked. It's only in commercials for scams that people pretend you could ever speak to women anywhere but schools. >>34264816This is a lie. There's nothing you can possibly say to anyone to ever start relationship in any of ways he listed. your job will fire you, hobby groups are limited to people you know, in church its just old dying people, in clubs all women are glued to their boyfriends/friends. There's only one move to make in life and only one place to search to speak to women, university - always has been just school or mutuals never anything else. You will never speak to women at all unless you quit your job and go to uni again. Now imagine: When you search for a job, do you expect to go to a desert and bash your head against it? Its absolutely retarded isnt it? So is trying to speak to women outside of schools. >>34264839None of this works. no one knows how confident you are or if you're out there if you're not in school and speaking to them verbally. There is no dating up or down, there's just permanent isolation and celibacy until you are in school again. >>34264890It is a fact>>34267132No you dont, you end up the exact same just more bored and miserable.
>>34272533No they arentfestivals only take place once or twice a year and everyone there is exclusivly speaking to people they already know and there's loud music that makes conversation impossibleno one is capable of speaking to people they dont already know there, you are forced to stay alone and isolated and miserable you're just forced to pay tons of money to be allowed to enter there. there's nothing at all to do at festivals except be charged to see established couples have fun with each other while you're not allowed to speak to anyone>>34270102only school works hereat work people just work and everyone already has husband, classes are in school, in church its just old people listening to sermon - no women or talking at all, people only meetup their friends, sports are for athletes and its just men, volunteering is the same as work except again no women just retirees with too much free time, online dating makes it mathematically impossible to ever speak to women due to gender imbalance of 1 000 000 men per every 1 woman account including all the botting. Women dont use dating apps and the few that do are spammed instantly with accounts of celebrities and millionaires so they never even see accounts of normal people much less ever see them in person due to amunt of messeges they receive. there's tons of videos that show that when a female account opens it gets 1 billion messeges instantly and there's no way to ever say anything so interesting in first 3 words that will stick out from 1 billion other messeges all of which she only sees 3 first words of. If you do not quit your job and go to uni for another bachelors degree you will be forced to die miserable incel without ever experiencing going on a date, kissing, sex, relaitonship or hookup or anything else that normal people go to. If you dont plan to quit your job to go to school again you dont plan to live at all, its either school or nothing
Most people met their SOs at school or work. A small minority met their SOs via online dating, set ups, hobby classes or other methods.
>>34272791Almost all the guys I work with are married to women they met at our workplace but I have terrible luck because whenever I see a young white girl she’s always taken. Also you have to be 18+ to work at my job so I’m not a pedophile.
I'm trying to change my ways. I really really am. T 29 VirginThis weekend I will go out to a bar with friends in a nearby, trendier town. I will talk to people. I go to a lot of concerts, which has, once met a girl at a show and had a great conversation such that I could have almost certainly got her number. Don't know why I didn't, obviously there's something wrong with me. Another time I talked to a girl - attractive, too - at a convention I went to. We exchanged contact info but she lived many hours away from me, so it went nowhere. Gym hasn't worked for me because I'm a great cardiofag but a total runt compared to proper lifters. Hobby groups, while most of my hobbies are overwhelmingly male, generally leads to jovial, pleasant conversations with the women present that nonetheless go nowhere - and the ratio of guy to girl is very bad. I've only met a couple women on dating apps, one was really into me (even sent nudes unprompted) but she had just gotten out of an abusive relationship weeks ago, was still entangled with the guy and talking to him, and talking ABOUT him to me at our first date - I knew that was a mess I was unqualified for, cut it off with her very quick. Other one was a very nice girl who talked to me for a week, seemed great, then abruptly declared herself asexual one day and disappeared. That's it for the apps. But what can be gleaned from all my failures is that there's still opportunities to meet people if you go out a lot and talk to them. The problem is that I'm avoidant somehow, and though my "missed opportunities" are probably in the single digits, I have had missed opportunities. By throwing yourself into the world, I think things will work out. Yes, I'm scared and depressed about how I could end up, what I've missed out on, aging and seeing all my potential disappear. But I'm not without hope. There's hope. You shouldn't be without hope either.
So advice, I have recently discovered I have a fetish for rolepalying that I'm helping people doxx fbi and police/other government agents who are undercover or people who are bullying/entrapping people to commit rape, human trafficking, torture, etc and doing fucked up shady shit to rape victims. Actually doing it is illegal, but also, people are allowed to break the law and with or without consent people do these things roleplaying or not all the time. How do I legally and consensually rolepaly that fbi, police, stalkers, and creepy ass people at the erie blasco library, MHA association building, POverflow shelter, Pittsburgh library east allegheny, erie city mission, and all that are low key indrectly throwing shade and trying to entrap people for raping other people, torturing them by wedgieing and swirlying them, 4cahn femboy blackmail sex trafficking and framed for sex crimes type shit, and the victims keep getting misidentified as the perpetrators and followed around with 247 smear campaigns. Rain isnt doing shit and doesn't consent to a single goddamn thing, just wants left the fuck alone, love, respect, and to have healthy relationships, didnt say a goddamn thing, no whistle blown, these people could just be internet fetishists, but my new fetish for doing these things isnt vigilantism or illegal, and i dont want to be confused as such. Any other roleplayers in this variety who just want to roleplay and not necessarily do illegal shit even tho breaking the law is okay if you are accountable and hey you didn't get arrested so just be horrible same with everyone life is unfair, its just a hot dom who is roleplaying and going around saying things to themself and pretending to be getting revenge against bullies with guns and badges and sex offenders who may or may not be as they are, they were just roleplaying its hot :P
Some people have fetishes for roleplaying they are shooting up a place due to bullying and fucked up things, those roleplayers are scary, hopefully they dont unconsensually do some shit like that. God too many times. I dont know whether they are or are not real tho
>>34273022>>34273030what the fuck are you babbling about
God forbid someone roleplay that they were shooting up marshall college campus or the stadium in huntington wv and there was no one filing tips on a tipline, and those roleplayers did so without consent due to them being evil as fuck and human garbage, and the city mission and police being corrupt as fuck and filled with neo nazis and uncharged sex offenders, god forbid anybody have a fetish for those things, or that someone who was into abduction roleplay did unconsensual roleplaying with people who have raped or bullied or essentially gangstalked and ruined /tormented that guy"
>>34272663Entering education in your 30's, explicitly to meet women, sounds like a recipe for disaster.
>>34264445Looksmaxxing
I started dating my now husband when I was 19, he was 35. He was the one that was uncomfortable with the age gap at first and didn’t have an interest for awhile. After talking more and spending time together that slowly changed. Friends and family on both sides found it a bit odd at times, but it worked out very well for the both of us in the endDon’t let how others feel overshadow how you feel, if you find someone you work with stuck with it
>>34273451how did you meet, did he ask you on a date or for sex? And why did you choose him instead of just a hook up? And lastly are you a female or a tranny?
>>34273498lol female Wanted more than just a hook up, emotional maturity is hard to find these days, so latched onto that.We did some work together, and would talk a lot, and it was me that was more trying to move it into something than him at first
>>34264502Not very good /adv/ice
>>34273043No it doesntbeing forced into spending next 50 years of your life in celibacy and eventually dying alone, uncared and unloved without ever experiencing dates, romance, kissing, sex that's recipe for disasterGoing to school, flirting, going to parties and on dates and having hookups is recipe for everything good in life
In a generation the ones that can't date will be phased out and numbers will return back to normal. My cavemen ancestors managed and they're said to have a lower iq than me(ik, how is it possible)>>34266007Imagine being so coddled.
>>34274245>flirting, going to parties and on dates and having hookupsYou're supposed to do those things outside of class time even in school
>>34274274but in order to do those things you need to speak to women, which requires you to be in schoolits not about what happens in classes, its about bonding that classes allow and speaking to people in corridors
>>34273510You didn’t answer my questions, how did you meet, who asked who out, was it a date or sex? And how do you know he’s emotionally mature by just glancing at him? And what does emotional maturity mean? And is he white?
>>34274430It’s all right there if you reread it. The added questions make me feel like either you didn’t read or you’re not grasping what is thereIf it’s still confusing I can break it down simpler for you
>>34274442So you work together and you made the first move by talking to him and asking him out. Got it. And he’s white? Wow I never see this happen to white men.
>>34274474Yes he’s white, pretty much almost only see this with white men to be honest
>>34274481I’m a white man and never had a white woman that’s not fat and busted ever flirt with me or show interest. And I’ve been rejected by every girl I cold approach. There’s been nons that compliment my height but no white women.
>>34265987i mean what if he's right
>>34274245>Hi, I'm 30 and bald. Where are the young girls at?People will smell you a mile away.
>>34274766Literally me
>>34275082Are you also 6’8
>>34275097Only 6 feet tall
>>34275116So you are closer to women’s height, you are lucky. They always choose guys their height so they can kiss standing up.
>>34264445dating apps manipulate you into believing that there is no one to date. do this to check for yourself: stop using them for a month, and then open them again. you'll get some likes... then you use them for a week, and suddenly you won't get likes again.
>>34274766Not white here but damnAre you approachable and do you make conversation fun even when being real or serious?
>>34275835>Are you approachablenta but what does this actually mean
>>34276442Do people you’re around regularly talk to you often?Do people feel at easy just talking to you about anything?
>>34276638no and no
>>34276679I’d suggest working on communication skills first and just having banter with people
>>34276768i can have banter with people once im comfortable with them
>>34276778From seeing how things here are going I agree with the comment they made about working on communication skills
>>34276788>From seeing how things here are goingwhat
>>34264502>"high IQ" anon who just drops the most midwit response ever written on /adv/Yeah, "please" go back to R*ddit where you came from, anony. Your opinion is more worthless than a tranny on welfare.
>>34276638I’m the tall guy and I never have anyone message me first or talk to me first. I’m always the one that has to ask my coworkers how their day is or if they want to hang out, or whatever.
>>34276817Communication Work on this skills, because, I don’t say this to be mean, they are really off
>>34264445Technically you can meet people everywhere. You can cold approach people in public places.
>>34264445What did people use in any other era to date?What IS dating? Screening for a potential mate to procreate and share resources with to attain particular goals?What is every possible way to do this? What are the likely statistical outcomes of all this?For example1 dating app (intentional-dating environment)Swipe some people, meet them in person a few times, discuss the “share resources to attain particular goals” “contract”, decide yay or nay, go next(Btw there's like no physical equivalent, you basically forced to use dating apps if want intentional-dating environment, other than like ballroom dancing or some shit, or singles events meetups shit idk. I guess if there was an organic physical version of mass-swiping efficiently but that'd be cumbersome. One just has to be "smart" and "guess" where their match would most likely be at then go there)2 school, work, shared forced environment (forced - unintentional)3 hobby stuff, festivals, whatever, shared intentional environment“unintentional-dating” (many still have the ulterior motives of dating) environment (but person still intentionally went there, wasn’t forced like the school work shared forced environment, but person didn’t intentionally go there to date)3.5 online version of this4 friend of friend, existing networking branching5 cold approach (which happens anywhere, but some environments easier some harder)It’s simply a dice roll of meeting new people, like oh, reroll, reroll, reroll, til U find one that can settle on a “contract”There's the intentionality and then there's online/offline. Either maximise chance of "accidentally" bumping into the "1", or intentionally "seek" the "1". Sooo how do you go about this? Spam things where you can meet n assess new people. Be smart about "where". It's actually annoying as fk. Is aids and cancerous, humans are disgusting
>>34276963how so
>>34275230Never been chosen, it's over
>>34264445Skip all the nonsense and take what is rightfully yours.