I can't take it anymore, I need a cure. My entire future is fucked if I don't. It feels disgusting and vile yet I can't stop these carnal desires. The only reason l'm like this is because of my shitty father and getting groomed at 16 by an older man. I don't see a future. I can't even cope with video games or anime because they're all filled with men that spur these homosexual thoughts. I'm not religious, l just want to be rid of this sickness.
>>34266554can you greentext how you got groomed?
>>34266565It's not really an elaborate story, just got told by a guy I was mature for my age and he snuck me into his car at night for us to have sex. Felt disgusted after, never talked to him again.
>>34266574...so you initiated sex with a guy at sixteen and you think he groomed you?lmao you're one dumb faggot
>>34266554>The only reason l'm like this is because of my shitty fatherthat's the core problem for 90% of faggots, something in relation with their fathers (usually overbearing and overcriticizing in my experience)i guess you could try therapy if any nonjew dares to treat it, but only people that i know were cured used hard work, sport activities and associating with non-gay crowd. most of them are married with kids now, so don't let anyone tell you "hurr durr it's your nature"
>>34266582I was 16 and confused, I know I'm partially to blame for the situation but I was still a child at the end of the day.
>>34266584>i guess you could try therapy if any nonjew dares to treat it, but only people that i know were cured used hard work, sport activities and associating with non-gay crowdAll my therapists I've told about these feelings have told me my homosexuality is just innate and to accept it. They all accept the narrative they've been fed by homos, which is insane to me. It's like telling schizophrenics that their hallucinations are natural. Self treatment seems like the only way, I don't really associate with anyone gay but I'm also not physically active enough. I think if I pursue a woman I could try to learn how to be attracted to her, gain T along the way and hopefully my body will correct itself.
Anon there are guys like Nick Fuentes who will go their whole lives getting progressively crazier and more unhappy because they just won’t accept certain parts of themselves. It’s sad to see from the outside. All you have to do is think for yourself just what kind of people you have attraction towards without trying to come up with a cope for why it is you are attracted. Nobody knows why. Just curious though what was this like for you growing up? Did you have crushes on girls or boys or not at all maybe?
>>34266554OP, you are going to be unhappy until you get rid of your internalized homophobia.
>>34266608well i'd say besides crushing the "i'm fragile" mythos (that's what hard work and sports are for) the biggest thing is your circle of friends. you see itt how unlikely it is to find men unpoisoned by propaganda. 50years ago it would be a completely different picture
>>34266665>All you have to do is think for yourself just what kind of people you have attraction towards without trying to come up with a cope for why it is you are attracted.That cannot possibly work when I already know the causes for these attractions. It's not cope, it's just the logical conclusion I've come to with how my life and the lives of many other homosexuals are despite what the narrative would tell you. >Just curious though what was this like for you growing up? Did you have crushes on girls or boys or not at all maybe?I would say not at all, my only crushes were really on fictional characters. During this time I was unaware of how much these feelings were influenced by my past, but even then I found them unnerving. I had never been attracted to a woman before but something inside of me even now is screaming at me to fix it somehow.
>>34266673"Internalized homophobia" is a made up concept to dismiss people like me who don't accept the narrative about homosexuality being natural. I know something is wrong with me. My brain is fucked, and I could not think of anything that would make me feel worse than just accepting that fact.
>>34266679I doubt I could find people like that who I'd actually enjoy being around. My friends are good people, but they simply don't understand the situation I'm in, all their knowledge has been from the narrative they've been fed. The problem is the people who don't buy into it also tend to be the ones who are either super religious or right-leaning, neither of which I'd get along with.
>>34266730>I know something is wrong with meanon, the only thing wrong with you is the same thing wrong with those people who desperately want their limbs amputated even though there's nothing medically wrong with them.you're gay. there's no mass hypnosis going on. it's no different than the color of your skin. you need to accept yourself. there's nothing wrong with you.
>>34266735yeah, that's a catch, you were born in supergay times, hope you find some support anon
>>34266726You think the cause of it is your groomer? Normally I wouldn’t want to say this because it seems rude but I think you were already aware of your attraction when the guy hit on you. It could be fair to say that you weren’t fully in touch with your sexuality (as it seems obvious you still aren’t since you’re acting like it’s impossible to be) but all that means is that you were even more vulnerable than just being too young for all that. One needs inner confidence and security to best navigate these things. I’m pansexual but I never went through any kind of grooming in fact I was rather isolated romantically but I can tell you there was a long time where I did refuse to accept my whole sexuality. Ever since then life has been better. >fictional charactersWere they male? Are you seriously trying to tell me that you didn’t have any attractions or concepts of romantic relationships you might want until after you were 16 and that happened? Why do you want to fix (change) yourself so badly?
>>34266730What evidence do you have that homosexuality can be ended or reversed?
you'll notice how the fucking "pansexual" faggot excuses your rapist and blames you for it, and uses the same grooming tactics even when told multiple times you don't want it, to validate his own mental illness
>>34266809There’s no excusal I’m saying that he was even more vulnerable than he realized actually. Straight guys just aren’t going to go along with it when propositioned for sex like that. He’s even saying he’s never been attracted to a woman before.
Suggestions1) Read https://ia800809.us.archive.org/3/items/PowerOfPositiveThinking/PowerOfPositiveThinking.pdf2) Lookup Psilocybin with guided meditation / music / therapy. It makes your brain more plastic / flexible... hopefully can help ease your hurt from your father.3) I'll pray for you, man. And you might need some religion, desu -- Satan is the god of this world, Epstein files prove this, so you need some help on your side.
>>34266730>narrative It's not a narrative. It's a fact. Homosexual behaviour has been observed in 100s of species. >I know something is wrong with me.No. You've been told homosexuality is wrong and you believed them. It isn't and you shouldn't.
>>342668314) Understand that all of us, even happily married, have to control our urges both with our spouse and with others. Sexual urges are a fire that easily goes out of control. We can't control every thought, but we can control actions.
>>34266785Part of it is definitely being groomed, that is an undeniable fact. I did already have inclinations towards men, due to trauma and my poor relationship with my father, but that event is what solidified these attractions. >Were they male? Are you seriously trying to tell me that you didn’t have any attractions or concepts of romantic relationships you might want until after you were 16 and that happened? Why do you want to fix (change) yourself so badly?Yes, they were male. And for a while, I truly bought into the whole "love is love" schtick and was fine with the thoughts. Then I slowly learned, seeing over and over again the same pattern of trauma and abuse with homosexuals, until I realized what was actually going on. I want to fix this because I want a wife and kids. I'm tired of the voice in my head telling me how disgusting this all is, and I know it's right.
you have parasites, look into the parasitepill, once you rid yourself of these parasites you will be cured
>>34266790>What evidence do you have that homosexuality can be ended or reversed?None really, I don't think it can ever be truly "reversed." I think with time I could repress the desires and even unlock my intended attraction for women, but it's made infinitely harder when all the treatment must be done alone. Any attempt to even think about preventing or undoing homosexuality is met with backlash because homos in the 70s demanded it stopped being called a mental illness, when it objectively is one.
>>34266554Dewormer.
>>34266839Why are you so certain the attractions had a source with the trouble you had with your father? Doesn’t that seem kind of dangerous to assume? I say dangerous because if you hold onto that belief and deem it unfalsifiable you risk not reaching self acceptance since there would be a block. By solidify do you mean you think that it was always moments of abuse that led you to same sex attraction and that was another or do you mean that although traumatic you got more clarity that you were really into men? There’s not a lot I can say if you want a wife and kids but genuinely. Just that being true to ourselves isn’t always easy. You could try trans men or just adoption but that’s a whole other sort of topic. At the root are questions of being honest with yourself first and foremost and I sincerely hope you’re able to get there. Love is love and life won’t always be abuse.
>>34266854If you don't have any actual evidence or proven techniques for repression (beyond maybe becoming a eunuch), isn't this exercise sort of doomed to fail? I think people have historically opposed the attempted reversal of homosexuality because it effectively became a form of mild torture, where people were being pressured to do something that was fundamentally impossible. All off the false premise that it was somehow possible. I think it's less of a weird political thing, and more-so a movement to end unnecessary suffering.If you're placing this pressure on yourself, you could essentially be playing the role of a councilor at a conversion camp. Except in an internalized way inside yourself. Which doesn't seem like the most fun thing ever.
>>34266554have you considered that you can't stop being homo because ur gay?
>>34266554Unironically go to church and get right with God
As someone who had to come to terms with being gay, having always been gay, and having none of the heinous childhood events that idiots seem to be so obsessed with >you think you get a conscious choice in the matter
>>34266554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJP-xTh9Tk
>>34266554Get a gf that's cool with you being gay and get kinky with her.
Jesus will give you eternal life if you repent and drop everything to follow him. And same sex attraction is just over if many things people need to drop.
>>34266867>Why are you so certain the attractions had a source with the trouble you had with your father?Research into the causes of homosexuality, and the fact that my attraction tends to lean towards older men. I spent a long time denying it as a possibility because the truth that my father has permanently stained my life is very hard to accept.
>>34266906>If you don't have any actual evidence or proven techniques for repression (beyond maybe becoming a eunuch), isn't this exercise sort of doomed to fail? I think people have historically opposed the attempted reversal of homosexuality because it effectively became a form of mild torture, where people were being pressured to do something that was fundamentally impossible.It's fundamentally impossible from what we currently know. I think the perceived impossibility of curing homosexuality definitely was part of the reason they removed it from the DSM. But I don't think that should justify just accepting my state. I would go to conversion camp if I could. I firmly believe if there was an active attempt, we could find a cure for homosexuality, or at least a way to suppress it. It isn't fun, but what would be way worse is living the rest of my life as a homosexual.
>>34268856I would if I was attracted to women. I have tried to be many times, I just can't as of right now. I hope to someday unlock my innate attraction to women, maybe if I get in a relationship I can learn overtime.
>>34268830This video is entirely accurate. My father was absent, my mother was overbearing, and I spent my entire childhood disconnected from male peers. I grew up hating my father. It's absurd that people will deny this experience that is basically universal for homosexuals.
>>34266830And I am saying you are mentally ill, and in no position to give anyone advice outside of a local synagogue.
>>34266554Haven't you just tried to... fuck a woman?Didn't it occur to you that if you started thinking about it after you got raped, then the same logic will work in reverse.Even if you think you don't like fucking women, if you fuck them regardless, and hard enough, you will eventually become addicted to the experience too. Just find someone who is willing to guilt-trip you while you are at it so you can go all out when you are in the zone.
>>34266554Eh. Your family doesn't need to know you take it up the ass. This is 100% self afflicted, just be yourself. Just don't be a degenerate and fuck everything with a pulse, that would a problem. Find a guy your age long-term and live a normal life. That's it. Stop being a faggot and be who you are.
>>34269973Always look into that research and who’s funding it. It’ll usually be religious groups or those who just have it out for anything lgbt. I hope a few of us were able to convince you that it’s possible to have same sex attraction without trauma. Real talking though even if yours was caused by that it would still be the case that your authentic attraction is just somewhere else than women and yeah that might be a terribly hard thing for you to accept. Either way I’m sorry this has been so hard for you. Try not to see all same sex love as nefarious and see if there’s any sort of feminine out there that you like to cover all your bases.
>>34266554>groomed at 16 by an older mangrooming sucks but you were 16 and you decided to go against your parents /guardian's advice to not talk to strangers.t groomed at 13 by a wignat
>>34266554It gets better bro. Hang in there. Personally like you I am convinced that homosexuality is always at least partially a choice and that it is preferable to look for a woman.That being said you shouldn't suppress it too hard either. In my (still limited) experience the more obsessed I get with the idea that I need to "become a real man" the worse the gay thoughts get.Counter intuitively it seems to be the acceptance of the weak insecure boy within you that makes you feel less gay. It makes sense if you think about it.Think about the type of guys who can get a girlfriend. Is it the burly and brawny looksmaxxer who won't even risk rejection? No it's always the ugly dude who likes to play video games but likes himself despite his faults.
>>34270434>Always look into that research and who’s funding itthis, but in opposite. i can't believe people here still shill for "it's impossible this" "it's natural that" "we all know that" "scientists agree on" bullshit.just look at who did the "research" and you'll see that it's the same people that 130 years ago convinced americans to mutilate genitals of their male babies because of "the health reasons"
>>34269973I agree with the other anon. You're probably just gay man. I understand that the trauma likely shaped how you think about sex, but if you don't like girls and you use words like "carnal" when describing men it probably means you're gay. Straight guys don't do that.Why is being gay such a horrible fate in your mind? You said earlier that you wanted a wife and kids, but is that really the best outcome for you? Go test it out, find yourself a GF and approach the relationship with an open mind. If it's awful and you hate it, my suggestion would be to not start a family and contribute to society in some other way.
>>34266590so that particular event still has nothing to do with your homosexuality lmao. You're acting as if being 16 makes you non sentient. If you're straight you wouldn't do that even if you were 5 years younger than that.
listen, you need to go down the deworming rabbithole. There is solid evidence out there that getting rid of parasites makes all sorts of illnesses go away, homosexuality included.
>>34270668>Science I don't like is wrong cause, I dunno, the jewsSeek psychiatric help
>>34271182no, you, faggot
>>34271182Anon, you did the same thing here>>34270434
>>34271187I'm not the one suffering delusions of a jewish science conspiracy>>34271805That wasn't me
