I came to the conclusion, that women hate good, intelligent, emotionally mature and open, empathic men the same way they hate short, ugly men.I think it comes down to the fact that they see these men as litmus test for themselves that they know they wouldn't pass.Also, men with higher intelligence are impossible to be used so these women avoid them.They would rather go for a dumb, high masculinity, low inhibition, high aggressiveness men even if they looks like neanderthals. These seem to be popular with women here in Poland.Women simply didn't develop beyond their primal urges and it's especially noticible today where they can have a free choice of the litter.So my question is - since it;s a adv board - are there any countries left where women value good, intelligent men? If so, where is that?
>>34299562That is a factor, but if you use your intelligence to gain social status then it's no longer a problem.
>litmus test for themselves that they know they wouldn't passso like, you with women basically
>>34299563I was thinking of adding that part, that sure, later on when they want to settle (double digit body number, 3 kids etc) they MAY want a guy like that only to use him anyways.I mean look at Musk or Bezos - do you think they TRULY found women who actually want THEM?>>34299567I hope you die, femmorhoid.
>>34299563To continue, if I made a shit ton of money, I would use it to do a research of where the last few good women live and move there. Although, that is probably the only good way even for the average guy today.
>>34299562Women naturally prefer strong men exclusively, yes. How they interpret that (omg he's so tall/rich/violent) is entirely their problem. No there aren't countries with an actual exception to this rule. Those of us who are condemned by God to be weak just have to make peace with solitude.
they prefer a dumb man, easier to steerhandsome retards are usually dumber too, since they have to use their wits alot less, especially when its about womenthey also prefer excitement, mystery, entertainment, "good" men are usually "boring"their primal urge would be to be with someone who is ideal for raising children, dumb and unpredicable males are the opposite of that, so what they are doing is listening to their little selfish needs that require entertainment
>>34299574>No there aren't countries with an actual exception to this rule.I beg to differ, maybe it's my neverending optimism or something.The very few instances where I had experiences with women from Asia or Africa, it was night and day with what Polish women were like to me.They were much nicer and DID give me signs of appreciation, even if not in a romantic meaning. But I think it can be done.That would make sense - it's the freedom of modern western women which made them animalistic like that.Women in poorer countries know they depend on men, so they seek the stable, good ones more so than the emotional/dopamine craze like western women do.Also, good and intelligent =/= weak, although yes, I know what you mean. And that pic rel made me kek so thanks anon.
>>34299570>femmorhoidheard that one a lot, got anything a bit more original? or are you completely braindead you fag
>>34299562Thanks for the laughs.Women had a deep perception, honed by millenia of evolution to detect real intelligence from the apperence of it.Real intelligence is what make people learn fast and survive in the jungle, predating lesser beings and submiting their peers into collaboration.In the sex evolutive war, men try to hack the female brain faking it, while women improve their discerning skills. It's even possible that languaje appeared just for male sapiens to show wit.Probably your shows of "intelligence" in front of the ladies are pathetic in their eyes.See, having a very expensive car shows, in fact, intelligence. Even if the owner never attended a school.
>>34299582>their primal urge would be to be with someone who is ideal for raising childrenI think I explained it well in the next post anon >>>>34299583I think it's the other way around. They are being taken care of by the daddy govt (funded by men) so they actually don't need a stable man.They can go for what they crave internally in their animalistic core, as you said >so what they are doing is listening to their little selfish needs that require entertainmentThat's what their choices are like that. They literally reverted to caveman days.>>34299587You clearly have no idea what "intelligence" really means.
>>34299570>I was thinking of adding that part, that sure, later on when they want to settle (double digit body number, 3 kids etc) they MAY want a guy like that only to use him anyways.>I mean look at Musk or Bezos - do you think they TRULY found women who actually want THEM?No one truly wants anyone. If you see a hot woman, you want her body and the feelings of love are dependent on her staying in shape. If a woman sees a hot guy, she wants his body, his money, or his status. It's actually better for men because they have multiple options beyond looks.
>>34299587>Real intelligence is what make people learn fast and survive in the jungle, predating lesser beings and submiting their peers into collaboration.What you are talking about is EQ, which is not what a real intelligence is.Purely intelligent man will ignore status quo when it's wrong, will be ahead of most people in seeing patterns (covid vax, epstein case), basically he's going to be the antithesis of an NPC in all/majority of regards. Also he will score high on Mensa IQ test.What you are talking about is a HANDY man, not intelligent one. Stop changing definitions of words so they fit your narrative.>>34299595Yeah but the guy will want 70% of women, and another will want 80% of women.>It's actually better for men because they have multiple options beyond looks.Illusion of options. They will want an exceptional man in any regard of "options" you are talking about.Literally no one nowadays except for boomers maybe says "try harder", not even redpillers don't do that anymore. Everybody knows it's in vain and the goalpost moves all the time.
>>34299591>You clearly have no idea what "intelligence" really means.Then please explain what it is to you.I can tell you that natural born intelligence (the only that women can find useful to seek) is not linked to education, and humans had been lowering their intelligence since neolithic times due to civilization making life easier.My point is what women appreciate is practical intelligence that make individuals more efficient in their adaptation to the environment.
>These seem to be popular with women here in Poland.Granted. I've never seen Poland. >>34299587That sounds sexist
>>34299597>Yeah but the guy will want 70% of women, and another will want 80% of women.So they have lower standards and are willing to have sex with anything. Does that imply moral superiority?>Illusion of options. They will want an exceptional man in any regard of "options" you are talking about.>Literally no one nowadays except for boomers maybe says "try harder", not even redpillers don't do that anymore. Everybody knows it's in vain and the goalpost moves all the time.You say that, but the majority of men have had sex. Incels are still less than half of men.
>>34299597>which is not what a real intelligence is.Yeah and your dick is actually bigger when measured by total fluid volume displacement instead of inches
>>34299600I never said it's linked to education. On the contrary, I don't think that. I explained it already here >>34299597>>34299604>So they have lower standards and are willing to have sex with anything. Does that imply moral superiority?Where did I imply moral superiority. I just pointed out flaws in your thinking, that it's stupid to compare the difficulty of a man vs a woman in terms of finding a partner.Also it deviated too much from the main topic now.>You say that, but the majority of men have had sex. Incels are still less than half of men.One can be incel and non-virgin. What you just typed doesn't negate what I said.
>>34299562If your 'intellect' is just reciting book facts and complaining/agreeing about Trump or Poland, you aren't smart, you’re a bore.Women don't hate 'intelligence'; they hate the lack of nuance. Real intelligence is having your life together: a career, health, a clean living space, and hobbies that aren't just consuming product. If you’re a fat lummox who thinks being 'nice' replaces basic hygiene and social calibration, that's your problem.Stop being a pervert and go touch grass
>>34299618>Where did I imply moral superiority. I just pointed out flaws in your thinking, that it's stupid to compare the difficulty of a man vs a woman in terms of finding a partner.Probably the part where you defined a "good" woman. >One can be incel and non-virgin. What you just typed doesn't negate what I said."Wanting an exceptional man" is a bit at odds with the fact that more than half of men were selected by women. It's not possible for >50% to be exceptional.
>>34299622AI wrote this post. Even thought parts of it are true, it clearly lacks soul. Also it defends women and denies reality, especially this part: >Women don't hate 'intelligence'; they hate the lack of nuance.
>>34299624>"Wanting an exceptional man" is a bit at odds with the fact that more than half of men were selected by women. It's not possible for >50% to be exceptional.Slightly above 50% doesn't sound so good. Also, I was talking about the leftover, single women, who have these standards mostly.The fact that you are denying crazy female standards and the rise of singleness nowadays, also the hoeflation, proves you are a retarded NPC.
>>34299624>>34299633Plus, yeah, those who didn't get the exceptional men, they went for the low IQ ones that they know they can use easily. As I said in OP.
>>34299633>Slightly above 50% doesn't sound so good. Also, I was talking about the leftover, single women, who have these standards mostly.Have you heard of supply and demand? >The fact that you are denying crazy female standards and the rise of singleness nowadays, also the hoeflation, proves you are a retarded NPC.Or maybe I am selected because I worked instead of whining.
>>34299640>Or maybe I am selected because I worked instead of whining.Shut the fuck up, you didn't do shit.
>>34299643Have you ever heard of the crab mentality?
>>34299562You came to the wrong conclusion. Women enjoy good men, and they enjoy intelligent men and they enjoy empathic, open men. They love men like this and pray to find one fervently for themselves. The problem is that many men today, around 81% of all men, are bitch-made. Which means yes many men out there are those things, they lack the one thing that holds it all together, a fucking spine. Women want the man to have these nice and warm cuddly qualities but not at the cost of the man being an overly agreeable neurotic doormat. And 81% of so called "good men" are people pleasers, ass kissers, they don't just give the nice guy service to the woman, he gives it to everyone, absolutely everyone, even to people who disrespect him. Even to people who disrespect his woman. And it's men like that they hate. And other men should hate them too.I've seen weak spineless men like this in action too. They will be in a group setting, and someone or multiple people will talk shit about the guy's girlfriend or wife and disrespect her, disrespect the guy himself, and the guy just nods and awkwardly smiles "haha good one guys!" and does absolutely nothing. Doesn't even cut them out of his life, continues to kiss ass. Men like this will always be revolting.
>>34299562My problem with intelligent men is that they're generally unhappy.I'd rather be with a guy who's having a good time than a guy who'd rather tell me 6 different reasons why what we're doing is stupid.
>>34299751>They love men like this and pray to find one fervently for themselves.That would make me the most desireable man in the world right now but it's the furthest from the truth.So I'll stick to my conclusions, thank you.Also even >>34299752 A FEMALE agrees with me.>>34299752But you know, a man can be intelligent, but also have the happy go lucky personality. Sure, his outlook on society may be gloomy and dark, but that's because things ARE shit.He will still try and keep a smile in his daily life, he's not going to be an emo 24/7. SO just admit you simply like lies and you live by them.
>>34299562You are retarded. Kindness is actually the #1 most important trait for relationships, and intelligence is very attractive in itself.The problem is that women aren't attracted to out of shape, poorly dressed, boring, broke, emotionally unstable, socially inept autistic dorks who think they're smarter than they actually are, show no masculine backbone or assertiveness or competence, who expect women to approach them and split the bill 50/50, and who "are nice" only in the most shallow, performative, transactional way, and think they're owed sex for it.Be a more attractive, well-rounded person, stop using dating apps (ever), and stop caring about what "the average woman" does or likes (by your warped incorrect estimation). You only need 1 good woman, and that's not easy to find anywhere, but also not impossible.>are there any countries left where women value good, intelligent men? If so, where is that?Literally every single place where people live. God, you people are pathetic.
>>34300837>That would make me the most desireable man in the world right now but it's the furthest from the truthYeah there's a reason it's far from the truth, it's because what you estimate of yourself is not true. And that's okay, because everyone has an inner prick or asshole in him, every man has a dog in him. What separates the men from the fucking pinnochios is one is honest about it, and is therefore in control of it. The other is dishonest about it, lying even to himself and is therefore not in control of it. You're acting like a nice guy, not a kind guy. Nice guys are pieces of shit that nobody likes, not even the nice guy himself. Because nice guys, their good deeds have strings attached, their gestures of niceness are never free. They're emotional debts, and the issue these debts to people who don't even ask for it. It's intrusive as fuck and desperate and not nice in actuality, it's controlling and overbearing horse shit. Kind men are kind because they want to be kind, full stop. No expectation if return, no ulterior notice, just an abundance of feeling positive and having some to spare and giving it to someone who needs it and that's all. They are even kind to people who don't even deserve it, because they understand those are the people who need it most. It actually inspires others to help themselves up. Nice guys would never do that in a million years, giving freely to someone who they dislike. That would require not being able egotistical Trainwreck. And nice guys are always that every time
Women love good and intelligent men. Your problem is that you are neither.
>>34299562BwahagagaIt's always them. Never stop coping
>>34299562>women hate good, intelligent, emotionally mature and open, empathic menDo you see yourself as being those things?
>>34299562They don't, in fact they love them, you just don't fit the description.
>>34303358>>34303427All lies.>>34299562You are 100% right. Female creatures dislike intelligent men because they can't be manipulated and also because they can relate to the dumb brutes more since foids are dumb themselves. Females have smaller brains, so being forced to think about anything else than their shallow feelings is too much for them.
>>34299562No. Asians pretend to to get your money.Also, you're not intelligent.I'm not saying that to shame you into thinking you're wrong. You're right. It just took you too long to realize it.
>>34299562Men are checking out of society at an alarming rate.
>>34303456Maybe start using your intelligence for things like manipulation and love magic. You're not that intelligent after all if you can't get a woman to like you.
>>34299587>Women have a deep perceptionWomen's intuition is a meme you dumb whore
>>34303456If smaller brains is bad then aren’t women selecting for intelligence by choosing larger/taller men?
>>34302484Fuck off you clueless simp
>>34303473Are you retarded or just pretending to be retarded to be retarded?
>Modern man. Picrel.That skull shape. They don’t even make them like that anymore. Dude has an occipital, compared to she smoothebrains that pass for humans these days.
>>34303576You should think about the quality of your post before you post stuff like this
>>34303686Cute.
>>34303661>actually replying to thatYou nigger
>>34303456>that guy is handsome and rich but ewwwwww he's smartFind just one instance of a woman saying this. If you can't, that's admitting you are a low IQ virgin.
>>34303470OP back in the topic again. I have tested to be @138 IQ in Mensa test and ~136 IQ average in a psychological test (average, because that test came out with multiple results for different aspects of measurable intelligence, in some I was in 140s).My Psychiatrist told me no one ever scored this high in the entire Health Center for years she worked there.I love seeing NPC normoids seething every time I even imply I am intelligent. It gets you mad like nothing else.A guy can say he is handsome, good at some skill, has reat body etc, but the second he is sure of his intellience, you RUSH to tell him he is not. Every. Single. Fucking. Time.Don't chane anon. And this goes to every buttblasted imbecile ITT.
>>34303766It's the observable reality around me. Here in Poland I see hundreds of couples each week. Most of the time, the guy has 1/3 of the cranial capacity that I have.They will barely be able to build a sentence that they spew out of their drooling mouths and the chick will be like "tee hee hee".I see it everywhere. Men literally behaving like apes getting women easily. The reserved, stoic, intelligent ones have trouble achieving that.Polish women are the biggest retards in the world. They literally are the epitome of the old meme in pic related.
>>34299562this aint true at all lmfaoo nerds are sooo sexy
>>34304912Yeah? Well I took the Mensa test too. I sit at a comfortable 154 IQ. Not only did I receive a full psychoanalysis to confirm my innate intellectual knack for pattern recognition, I also went on to take the Wechsler scales (WAIS-IV) test where I scored in the 99.96th percentile. The female psychiatrist who assessed me that same day told me: "No one, and I mean NO ONE has ever tested so high in a clinical setting like you have. Anon, your results of the test were so compelling that my panties are absolutely soaked, please take me on my desk and split me open like a ripe coconut."And everyone applauded, the other staff members, the nearby student psychiatrists, even the female psychiatrist was applauding with her butt cheeks.
>>34304959The fact that you mock my achievement with this much disdain and sarcasm, proves to me you got triggered like the normie NPC you are and makes me feel even better about myself.
>>34304993I was actually on my sofa and laughing to myself as I typed it, and now it's been funnier because you think you can accurately tell me how I feel about (you), especially because you got it wrong lol And you call yourself smart? Nah what you are is you are someone who lives in their own head non-stop and you think being a ruminating neurotic 'main character' makes you intelligent. Wow well done you can think, what an achievement what a special gifted boy, a gifted child! Were you smart enough to notice your peers were wearing big noise cancelling headphones? Did you notice the 'tard wrangler'? Do you remember the big scary adult teacher who condescendingly taught you how it's impolite to smear shit on the walls with their loud voice? Were you smart enough to realise you have autism?
>>34299562That's because of jealousy. When someone experiences seeing someone with a higher moral and ethical compass including being more "Whole of a person with respect for their own autonomy without being influenced or easily manipulated".It can make the other person feel jealous and incompetent compared to the other.It hasn't got much to do because you have a dick between your legs.It has almost everything to do psychologically.
>>34305048I agree except that last part in this topic, since it's about romantic relationship ITT.No man will kick a woman to a curb if she was intelligent deep thinker (none of them are but hypothetically).But I get what you're sayin. My mother's family clearly are feeling inferior when I'm around. They especially started showing signs when I started studying CS.
>>34305123You know that the habit of instantly interpreting people's discomfort when around you for 'jealousy' using nothing other than your own mental projections is one of the qualifying diagnostics for the disorder called NPD?
This piece of shit thread is still up?Damn, this place really is dead.
>>34305499Ohhhh poor little anon got his feelings hurt? Is little faggot going to cry now? Did he poop his pants?
>>34304912Hey OP, everybody is ripping on you and I think that's unfair, although you've dished out plenty yourself. I'm assuming you made this thread to get your biases confirmed, but I'll give you some genuine advice instead. The reason you're lonely and miserable isn't that you're intelligent, anon. It's that you're utterly insecure. You flaunt your intelligence to appear confident, but the frequent insults and attacks, and most of all your disdain for "normies" betrays that it is nothing but a crutch you lean on to hide your insecurities. All insecurities are based in fear. You're afraid of being judged, and at some point in your life probably learned that lashing out and judging pre-emptively prevents you from getting hurt. In a way, that's true! There's abusers and abused, and while most people are both, from the abused's point of view, those who abuse have power and security. If you don't accept that getting to the bottom of this insecurity and fear is your own responsibility, you will never change. That would be a shame, because I believe you deserve to be happy. Not only that, but I believe you have it in you to be happy. I believe you have what it takes to stop being a spreader of misery and instead become a source of stability and joy for the people in your life. That will also help you attract women. Think about it: women want men that give them security and comfort more than anything. They don't have a disdain for intelligent, kind men. They steer clear of men that are insecure and needy. The good part is that you have the most advanced communication infrastructure in the history of our species to help you out with this. Talk to others that escaped this miserable pit and found happiness, or that are on the journey, and see what you can learn from them. Best regards from someone who went from bitter virgin loser in his 20s to father and husband in his 30s.
>>34306505>From my actual observable experiemce, women prefer dumb men over intelligent ones>NOOOOO THATS TOTALLY NOT TRUEEEE, ALSO YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD>I doubt it, here are actual reasons why this isnt the case>YEAH ANON, YOU ARE INSECURE, GET HELPThis thread. Normies will be normies and you will always be triggered about someone's certainty of their own intelligence.
>>34299562Sorry, but you sound like one of those“In a nice guy why don’t you like me bitch” types with all of thisMaybe the way you come off and how you interact makes women stay away from you and it’s not them
>>34299562Any East Asian country?
>>34306551Also, I find it funny how the /adv/ NPC reply is just "akstually womemes like smort min!!!, ur just not one (despite not knowing OP IRL) m'kay?" Anons don't ponder themselves if there is a possibility that OP is actually kind and still got the same loser experience anyway since everyone knows womemes find kindness a weakness (ergo the meekness simps ITT keep mentioning to whiteknight womemes).
>>34306557Maybe you're just not fun to be around like OP. That's the simplest answer I can give. People who consider themselves 'smart' are usually miserable, take themselves and everything too seriously, they're intense people and not in the thrilling way, in the tedious way. Being around a fucking killjoy sperg who sees life in this weird black-or-white as-a-matter-of-fact paradigm is fucking laborious to be around. It feels like giving a handshake to someone whose hand is sandpaper, it's a fucking aching chore. It doesn't matter if OP is as smart as he claims or if he's lying and is actually a dumbass because smart people and dumb people both enjoy relationships. Because the thing that they have is wisdom, they understand to loosen the fuck up and stop taking themselves seriously all the time, they understand there's a time and a place for that sort of thing. OP can't switch it off, and it does not matter if he is smart. If s smart person has 0 wisdom under his belt, all his smarts amount to nothing. Men such as this are like sophisticated rifles but with the world's shittiest bullets, yes the rifle is state of the art and impressive but it's firing peanuts and is effectively useless. Same is true for 'smart' people with not a drop of wisdom. Smart people who lack in this become indistinguishable from retards.
The kind of people that would chose you are hard to find no mater what or where you are.I personally have given up on trying to find someone tho.
>>34299562There is nothing more revolting to a woman than the truth, and to most men as well. As the redpill went mainstream the women withdrew their pussy, it's why you see "conservative" men being denied pussy and excluded everywhere. Women DO NOT want to hear the truth so when you chuds go around running your mouth about various redpills, not to mention blackpills, women will absolutely hate you with a passion if you spew blackpills in the real world. Even here on 4chan you can see the normies seethe tremendously when you drop blackpills, they will screech about demoralization like a banshee repeatedly.
>>34306611The funny thing is I wouldn't even call myself "cuckservative", I disagree with them on many levels although yeah, I'm closer to them than to liberal weaklings.The pill part is true, although I always considered myself being somewhere between red and blackpill, the latter is way too self-absorbed in putting blame on themselves.Redpill has become more sensible, especially since it started dropping the "try harder" notion.Either way, it's not just about spillin blackpills or conspiracy facts. It's about the everyday presentation of oneself.I don't dwell on deep topics or gloomy pills 24/7, I enjoy simple things and convos. But even there, normies and especially fee-males can sense you are not a smoothbrain like them.Hell, I would say you can even tell it by the way someone looks (cranial capacity for example being one such indicator).Women are purely "of this world" so everything that isn't surface-level, is either boring or unhandy to them.
>>34303710Acting one gives authority to sway opinion.
>>34306898>I don't dwell on deep topics or gloomy pills 24/7, I enjoy simple things and convos. But even there, normies and especially fee-males can sense you are not a smoothbrain like them.I want you to run a thought experiment in your head, an exercise of imagination, OK? You're at a record store, you see a nice music booth to sample music with headphones. You put them on, and you listen. You are listening to.. something. It's a song, maybe. It has lyrics, it has a beat, but it's the same tempo all the time, the same notes, the same tones being played. The vocals don't even rhyme or shift in emotion or pitch, it's just droning speech, sounding more like someone reading the back of ingredients off a box of cereal, and the 'music' sounds more like some repetitive droning machine. The lyrics, the words being "sung", yeah they're feel they're profound they're interesting enough. But the way it's expressed and the droning soundscape, it grates on you. You take the headphones off and you pass on buying that record. The vinyl record was called "Stoic thinker man". That's what it feels like to interact with someone who is non-stop serious and "factual" all the time. If you think their brains are smooth, please understand it may be because you're the sandpaper that scraped them smooth. What I'm saying is double check if you're not a dry killjoy, a monotone voiced overly serious robot when you're interacting with others.
>>34304948Why do you continue to lie? You will never see a woman being turned off a man because he's intelligent.
