What is the method to dealing with bullies, be they male or female in school and workplace situations where violence is usually unacceptable and highly punishable?As women are the ones that are harder to deal with, as you cannot really fight them, how do you deal with them?
>>34309509>As women are the ones that are harder to deal with, as you cannot really fight them, how do you deal with them?Set them against each other somehow. You need to start rumors.
>>34309557Is it possible, without playing their disgusting games? I would most rather walk to the other side of the earth, but it is impossible most of the time
>>34309509Ignore them when they're being assholes
>>34309673I am a practicer of this, but it's not really a solution...I think it's good for the less dedicated demons who are not in a group and might even feel embarrassed when you apply this approach, but those who are in groups and are dedicated will always provoke you for something or even make things up, like saying "you walk like a retard". Maybe it's the best to just act crazy... Maybe I'm a retard for being bothered by it so much
>>34309509Maybe thet person is hurting and something about interaction with you triggered them and they found an outlet where they could vent to you. That is extremely intimate and honestly they could be crying out. Would you be the one to calm them, hug them and be their rock?
>>34309509I was worked into a shoot in the workplace and I ended up being suspended without cause and was then dismissed due to vandalism and assault.
>>34309673this is literally what bullies feed off on - they don't want you to do anything about their shitty actionsI'm not sure where this "just ignore them" bs even originates from
>>34309683>Maybe it's the best to just act crazy...thats by far the worst thing you can do
>>34310530Well... What can you do...?
>>34311748Embarrass them. Put them in a situation where you're seen as the reasonable guy and they're exposed as assholes.>>34309557Pointless. It's easier to shame women so doubly Pointless
>>34311906Tutorial?
Put your foot down and tell em down to get lost. Be stern and clap back when possibleand be creative with it or such if it dosent work just a cold unreaction and report em to higher ups
>>34313329Most counterproductive method I've ever heard lmao. > Put your foot down and tell em down to get lost.This will make you even more of a laughing stock to them>Be stern and clap back when possibleand be creative with it or suchI'd rather die than do this, and I've seen others do this method, it doesn't work.>if it dosent work just a cold unreaction and report em to higher upsCold unreaction has worked best for me so far, btw higher ups don't give a shit and will usually just cause more problems and a headache and make you even more of a laughing stock, even to those who didn't care about it before, so you're better off just beating them up if possible.
>>34309509Take them asidd and ask them to stop, and if they don't secretly record them and get them to outright say bad things to you multiple times, then go to hr show them, if they blow you off threaten to take it to social media.
>>34309509I always had trouble with bullies in high school, but one day something just clicked and I started agreeing with everything the bullies said.>"Hey there fag. You tired from sucking dick last night?">"Yup. Sure am.">"Haha you said you sucked dick!">"Yep. You got me."After a while, their shit genuinely just bored me, which I think allowed me to react this way. They got bored eventually because I just didn't care anymore so I stopped reacting, which is always what they want. Women you can just fully ignore. They hate not being acknowledged. Just act like they didn't say anything at all and eventually they'll get pissed, call you weird, and stop. If you want to fight back, just use words. Those are like daggers to women. Small things though. "What happened to your hair?" and walk away. Small little digs at them that aren't necessarily insults but are very obviously aimed at demeaning them. It's their language of war.
>>34311748Don’t react, but if this doesn’t work - go full nuclear on them. Research them online, and make a dossier. Provoke them into actual malfeasance. I had this at a union job, where I was the only who wanted to do the work. I made them look like a bunch of lazy turds by forcing them to work. Got two lazy old bastards fired without pension because they said some slurs lol. Forced them to be on my team, and kept making the speed of the machine faster and faster, until they couldn’t keep up. Idk what you do for work or the actual situation, so if you want to, provide more details.
>>34313683I think your advice about women is good, but your method for male bullies would lower my self-esteem too much..>>34313848I think this is a good idea depending on the situation, but I don't really know how it would fair in school for example
>>34313293I'm lazyIf someone's being an asshole to me and insulting, I stare at them until they're finished and ask what their point was.
>>34309683>will always provoke youDon't rise to it.Simple as that.When monkeys at the zoo throw their shit at you, do you drop your pants to throw your shit back at them?Don't act like a brainless child like they are.Adults don't behave like this. I avoid idiots who don't realize this. And in the rare times I couldn't, I calmly take measures to get ahead of them. At work, HR and management side with those not being disruptive to the work getting done. Be on that side.
>>34310530>this is literally what bullies feed off on - they don't want you to do anything about their shitty actions>I'm not sure where this "just ignore them" bs even originates fromThey're usually looking for a response."Ignore" doesn't mean "stand there and tolerate abuse". It means "don't engage". Be boring.They're initiating a game where you lose by playing. So don't play their game in any way.
>>34313329>report them to higher upsevery person at our job that actually got higher ups involved is a fucking laughing stock
Women react very strongly to "whore." Just say "ok whore." Or something along that line. And ignore. Even if they aren't actual whores (unlikely) this word always sets women off. I use it in casual conversation and jokes w my guy friends at the work table sometimes, and it never fails to get at least one of the foids to perk up.Or just play their game better than them. I hope you aren't emotionally weak enough for what they say to actually affect you. Just shrug it off and take them down a peg by attacking their appearance or hoe behavior, whether you know about it or not-- it's basically their n word. I understand making enemies of women, they talk shit behind me plenty, but having them "bully you?" As an adult? You probably deserve it. Nut up, pussy. Who cares what any hole thinks. Show them you don't care what whores think and you win no matter what
>>34316127>every person at our job that actually got higher ups involved is a fucking laughing stockThere's helping your supervisor stay ahead of potential drama and then there's tattling on your coworkers.Which did these people do?
>>34309509>How to deal with being bullied by coworkers / classmates?By not being a faggot. If bullying 'works' on you then the problem is you and the only real steps you can take are internal. I'm not saying this to be mean, just as a point of fact. You will find 0 (zero) satisfying replies in this thread because there are in fact no snappy comebacks, no authority figures to appeal to, nothing you can 'do'. Truly not being bothered by bulling and being able to confidently tell people to fuck off is downstream of having social capital and self worth. Bullying only 'works' on you because you don't have these things and you're trying to defend a fortress with no walls. The solution is to be in shape (being physically fit magically makes people magically respect you for some reason), and just telling people to fuck off and calling them a dumb bitch without having an autistic meltdown over it. There is no 'winning' move beyond being fortified against bullying with self worth and a stoic attitude. The 'im above this' thing doesn't work.
>>34309509Ignore them, tell them to STFU, laugh moderately loudly and walk away. chew some gum or something. Also get jacked.
>>34309509>What is the method to dealing with bullies, be they male or female in school and workplace situations where violence is usually unacceptable and highly punishable?violence. don't be a cunt.
>>34316191Hag has the same effect on them
>>34309509The solution is to go off into a rant mainly about the logistics of moral eugenics but your essence of your points is sure to be misplaced so you've got to make sure to be clear about the purpose, feasibility and wider social, biological and economic context of such a policy. You've got to qualify points of uncertainty and identify voids of information needing to be filled to close in on epistemological clarity and neatly organize your points in a way that roughly tracks their causal flow. Lead with a simple description of politics as applied moral philosophy and point out the hazy boundaries between moral agents, the physical world and bureaucratic systems.To be clear, the implication is that the bully is of low genetic quality but figuring out how to deal with that problem is supposed to be a clever distraction. The impulse is to foment guilt based on a childlike assumption that the bully secretly knows better, but it's risky to be too forthright.But in reality, the strategy falls apart for dual emotional reasons and an ultimate practical reason: I'd like to avoid feeling guilty for making the other person feel stupid and I'd like to avoid feeling stupid myself if they have a credible set of counterpoints, so there is no winning move a la hedgehog dillema, and ultimately, it takes several minutes, potentially hours to construct a satisfactory argument against the neurotypical shitskin's boorish behavior.In the final analysis, one must shove the argument into the junk drawer of ideas in the hopes of eventually pleasing archetypal entities hidden in the subconscious mind. These unpleasant emotions from being called an autistic retard by "Carlos" are just a form of annoying black sludge tickling my ears, distracting me from the real important issues! So just say "Sorry, sir." or some shit like that and walk away!
>>34309557This. Preferably get another woman outside of the workplace / school to spread it to stop blowback on you.I resorted to this once for a woman that was butthurt I wouldn't date her.Woman constantly engage in reputational sabotage particularly against other woman.
>>34316191Ok I call them a whore and 10 guys come to beat me up. Great idea!
>>34317666>10 guys come to beat me up.So call the police?What kind of man allows himself to be beat up as an adult?
>>34318556A man that doesn't want to be labeled as a pussy by the whole town. How can you ignore that?
>>34320311>man lets 10 guys beat him because he doesn't want to appear weak>not a pussy wutYou're not terribly bright, are you?
>>34309509Call them cunts. It's like calling a black person a nigger.
>>34317666>come to beat me upSo the "unacceptable and highly punishable" was in fact a lie?
>>34309509Leave school and become a bum.
>>34309509>coworkersTalk to supervisor. Talk to HR. If they do nothing, change jobs.>classmatesPunch them as hard as you can in the stomach.
>>34309509Just burn it all down to da gwound
>>34309673You're technically telling OP to keep suffering in silence and give em all the fucking power and space they want to freely abuse him.Fuck kind of retarded whoreshit advice do you give?
>>34325849>You're technically telling OP to keep suffering in silence and give em all the fucking power and space they want to freely abuse him.NTA but i thought that was "being a heckin decent human being". Is it not?
>>34321052Depends where you live, cunt is a term of endearment in Australia.
>>34326769>i thought that was "being a heckin decent human being". Is it not?It depends.Allowing others to live their lives without harassing them or seeking justice or vengeance upon them is being a decent human being.Silently tolerating the abuse of others without setting boundaries or standing up for yourself in any way is being a weak pushover doormat.>>34325849There's patiently ignoring assholes saying stupid shit because they're assholes.And there's tolerating people actively abusing you.Assholes existing is not a problem for other to solve.
>>34309509Tell HR about your abusive co workers.
>>34309509simply eat and lift and get a haircut, unironicallyI haven't been bullied or talked about negatively sinceat the most people just agreed I was too quiet and a good guy while just minding my own business as usualcompared to being called a fag or pathetic or whatever before I put on the mass
>>34309509Fart on them
>>34310151>worked into a shootShoot? Is this a pro wrestling reference?>>34313400> higher ups don't give a shitWhat country is this? Your workplace doesn't have anti-harassment policies? You should repeatedly tell your direct manager via emails so you have them tracked. If you get fired or quit because it becomes too toxic, you then proceed to an employment lawyer and sue. Easy win.
>>34313400>This will make you even more of a laughing stock to themIt depends on how you do it. Setting boundaries and humorless standing by them seems pretty effective.If you act like demanding or frightened child, it's not effective.No matter what you do, some assholes might laugh at you. Big deal. Shrug it off.>I'd rather die than do this, and I've seen others do this method, it doesn't work."Clapping back" with verbal sparring can work but you have to be more experienced and skilled than them at it. So yeah, it's a terrible idea for most people.>higher ups don't give a shit and will usually just cause more problems and a headacheThey aren't your mother. They don't care about you. They care about a smooth and productive workplace. You have to be on *there* side, not cause trouble for them, and then step out of the way when the bullies cause trouble.It's about going along to get along and demonstrating that you're trying to work and the others aren't.If you're a more worthless employee, you've got nothing.>you're better off just beating them up if possible."Clapping back" with physical sparring can work but you have to be more experienced and skilled than them at it. So yeah, it's a terrible idea for most people.
