>work 3 jobs and my wife has refused to work for our whole marriage.>take vacation from work, work another job to get more money for house>finally save enough while paging for 2 cars and rent to buy a house. >wife announces she's been waiting for this moment to divorce me so she can get free real estate and lock me into paying huge child support>make 5,000 per month after taxes and benefits, lawyer says she'll get 3200 per month>youngest child is 2 years old, so support will last until he is done university >wife refuses to speak to me in the home, wont do laundry or cook>I have a layoff letter right now, entitled to 50 weeks pay if I take it, and 17k in tuition to any learning institutionIm strongly considering just taking a layoff and studying either carpentry or video game design. Carpentry so I could maybe build my own little house one day... I feel betrayed and I dont understand wtf is even happening. I have three little kids who need me. I look at them as my wife and I in one little person, they are little miracles that couldn't exist without her and I. I just dont see the point in nuking our family so frivoulouslyShould I take the tuition and go to school? Should I go on an exotic vacation and live some prodigal adventure before the indentured servitude that will be the rest of my adult life?I'm all fucked up over this. I have to work and study so much already and its hard to do that with no help anymore while my wife stays at home on Instagram and counts the days til she can get child support
This is your moment to get off the ride anon. I'm sorry but your wife doesn't love you and probably never did. She will use your hard earned money to fuck up your kids. The least she gets from you the better for your kids. quit all of your jobs now. you are working yourself to death to fund someone comfy lifestyle Work a few months and cashout all you can get. invest in a (stealth) camper and go see the world. You can't pluck any feathers from a plucked chicken. Good luck with the right mindset you can see this as an opportunity to be free. Don't become someones slave.
>>34326404I considered the camper idea but the thing is, if i fall behind in child support for 3 months or 3000 dollars (1 month) they WILL cancel my driver's license and passport, so the camper almost doesnt work... I need a base camp somewhere and something I can do that doesnt involve driving.
>>34326415That is only a problem if you get caught. What do you have to lose? they gonna take more money from you lol? worst they can do is take the camper. World is filled with people driving without a licence. try to drive as little as possible. Camp out somewhere for a half year. move only when absolute necessary . you dont have a home address anymore. so good fucking luck to the man tracking you down. usually they don't bother if tracking you cost more money then they get out off it. You need to realize you don't have much to lose.
>>34326391Sounds larp but in this situation, is it possible for the dad to go jobless and get custody of the kids and the mother to pay child support? Or 50 50 split where both parents "pay" for each other's "child support" hence it cancels out into $0? Like how does the law work with this shit. And how does the house get split
>>34326549If the split is 50 50 tge patents still have to have an equal split, so they take her income (0$) and they'll impute (pretend) i earn what i used to earn and divide it in two, so that the effectively we have similar incomes forever. The house is in my name only, but its considered marital property so we both have a right to it. If I cant afford it after a layoff it can be ordered sold by a court. Takes 10k and 6 months for that to happen. Alternatively, I could do a strategic default and not pay for it, lose 100 credit points per missed payment, foreclose on the house with zero credit rating for 7 years.They'll also take my driver's license and passport if I miss three payments, so if I wanna travel I have to do it now, because ill never travel again.My lawyer says im fucked. He's been doing exclusively divorce for 30 years
find a job in some shithole that doesn't extradite to the US and fucking leave.
>>34326391You're already fucked. Don't marry another lazy gold digger.The practical side of this is working for cash so you can ditch paying the child support. I know people irl who do this.
>>34326644Why do they calculate using the previous income and not the current one?Fuck travelling I'd just try to not let fuckwits (like your wife) get free money as hard as possible
>>34326732The court punishes you for "deliberately making less money" and they "impute your income" bases on what they assess is your capacity to earn.It is fucked. If you earn less they can day its deliberate and charge you the old rate. Thats why getting laid off is a million times better than quitting
lying shill thread, kys
>>34326391Is that banana fucking his armpit? AI sux, wholly shit thread
>>34327356Chat gpt refused to put a knife in his back so I said just put a banana and make the image
>>34326850And the wife can't be punished for deliberately making no money?What if you want your kids so you "deliberately" are making less/no money so that you get to raise your own kids? Ie what if you want your kids? Does the court not allow you to be a fucking father to your own children?Get that lazy worthless whore disgusting woman away from your own kids, if not chatgpt fanfic
>>34328383This is NOT chat gpt fanatic and I wish it wasMy lawyer says unless she starts doing heroine she will be considered the primary caregiver and get the kids the majority of the time.I work 3 jobs (fire fighter, army reserve, finance) and sometimes its 16 hour days, sometimes im gone for weeks. She IS technically the primary caregiver.I can of course, scale back how much im gone, but the only thing that will change what I earn is a legitimate layoff, which is happeningI looked into the video game program at college and im thinking ill take it. Its really nice. There's also a teach english position in vietnam thats been emailing me. I dont want to go to Vietnam and be away from my kids, but desu senpai, im only gonna be allowed to see them every second weekend anyway and Vietnam teaching at least would give me an apartment.
>>34329509>fire fighter, army reserveWow, a double ZOGBOT and totally cucked out of your own personal sovereignty. What makes young men do such stupid shit? Why would you ever get married in the eyes of the government? I get it if you had a gay little moral ceremony, but committing to being potentially divorce-raped is the definition of retarded! Shit is such a disaster! I look at the way my own parents get along, and know from that that I have absolutely no interest in marriage.I remember a guy on Reddit bragging that he got so sick of his ex-wife's abuse that he planted meth in her vehicle, then anonymously called the cops on a burner when she went out. He said he got his kids back and was able to keep his money. The whole time I was reading it, all I could think of is how dumb you'd have to be to dig yourself that deep to begin with. I wanted to reply to his smugness and take the piss out of his bragging, but the thread got deleted pretty quickly for obvious reasons. Shame on him, and shame on you for destroying your own life! Don't blame a snake for being a snake! Blame yourself for the poor judgment of her character, and teach your kids discernment if she and the judge even let you near them.
you are cooked man, the only option to not look like a cuck is to burn everything down; let vengeance savour you for the last time. That or slave your whole live away, or abandon your identity. Choose the pill anon, I would personally choose to see firework.
>>34326391>wife announces she's been waiting for this moment to divorce meThis entire scenario feels as fake as your image.
What a vagina
>>34329509Just do whatever gets the wamen as little as possible. What if you want to be the primary caregiver? Wouldn't a 50 50 split be best for the kid?>>34326850Idgi why is it based on "capacity" to earn, then technically everyone has a high "capacity" to earn they never max, including the wife. Just because you have the "capacity" to earn something doesn't mean you are forced to go and earn that, what if you want to do something else with your life that's not earning meaningless money you don't even wantIf Vietnam means you don't have to pay a cent then go do thatHell I'd just go homeless at that point and say fuck the system you ain't getting anything out of me, to hell with the kids considering they're just used as credit cards to get into ATM machines and not treated like actual humans
>>34329595I totally get your reaction, it doesnt even sound real, its like the definition of a super shallow, illogical, free riding parasite. In other words, a typical female. My wife's mother got a job at a respectable local company and then after 2 months got a doctor's note that said she had "brain fog" and went on disability, the company had to pay her for 3 years then give her a severance package to let her go when she got back. They all laugh about her sweet deal.Thats the family I married into, and yes, as much as it sounds far out, it is in fact real. Scammed exist, women exist>>3432960450/50 split isn't best for the kids, the best thing is that dad works, mom cooks, we have a functioning family. Anything else is degrees of malfunction. Right now, my wife needs full or "primary" custody to be entitled to maximum gibs, which is what the court usually awards >>34329567Zogbot meming aside, I love what I do and I feel a comeradery with my fellow fighters like you wouldn't believe and I'd lay down my life for almost any of them. Its a family. I never felt that when I was working at Burger King >>34329577Im thinking this too. I dont wanna pay 60 percent of my after tax income from a job i hate (finance, the bread earner job) do my wife can take my kids and house and go on vacations and get bottomed out by Chad on tinder. Im debating between video game design (passion work, low pay, 2. Years in college) or carpentry (build my own house one day, or buy a duno and fox it up)Thats my big internal debate right now.Yes, I am cooked. I keep thinking about these shirty poverty alternatives and thinking "if only shed just act normal, we coudl have a house, 3 kids, loving marriage, and I coyld reture early" but that is evidently not in the cards.. its so frustrating because we have all the ingredients for a wonderful life
>>34329660>50/50 split isn't best for the kids, the best thing is that dad works, mom cooks, we have a functioning family. Anything else is degrees of malfunctionIf you seriously believe that then by all means go be betabuxx slave JUSTED Brendan.jpeg cuck while mum microwaves up a couple of meals then scrolls Instagram and your kids can go wither
>>34329660desperation bake the best of pies. Let that be the whisper of snakes, and do what you desire. Let your temper brew, and in the tangle of thought, your story shall speak. After all, the stage does not require the story to carry on, only the final ending.The speech of mine is no more than a gust of wind, so does it be powerless, as many others. The voices have spoken, the days are growing old, let a choice be made.
>>34329660Why did you have not only one but THREE kids with such a shallow scamming woman? Were you blind? Thought the third one would finally make her change her ways?I mean the premises were all there
>>34329959She was the sweetest thing i ever met, and tried hard to please me for years.She just changed her mind and regressed to an adolescent recently. She described it as a religious experience "I had an epiphany" *gaze into the distance* that I never wanted to be a traditional house wife, you just tricked me into marrying you. She did a 180 and is basically like a kid who can divorce her parents and keep their home and get paid for 20 years (16 years til youngest is 18 plus post secondary)Really l, the family law system is what is what incentives this behaviour. If she needed to stay with me in order to have my provision she would act more rationally, but being legally allowed to kick me out and take so much money from me, she thinks thats a sweeter deal for her
>>34329660What the fuck even indulged you to a marry a sleazy cunt like this ? How did you even ignore all the red flags lool
>>34329764Great poetry anon
>>34330046>>34329660Wake the fuck up, There is no objective social identity where you're entitled to act as society tells you to be like, Your mind forces you to act like that identity because it's imprinted on you, Not because it is heroic, You're not a hero for trying to keep a shitty marriage with children that will grow and forget your "heroic battles" via your wife's brainwashing (every minute passes is far more longer than 18 years, just think what could go through the child's brain let alone what your wife could do)She relies on your 70% efforts to keep flowing above the sea without drowning in your sea, And you're battling with your inner moral duty and Kantian principles to unconsciously gain her approval, And she played it right by switching on you mid marriage as her mother carefully taught her, And she will do far more worse damage to you and you will pay her to do the damage, She will bring a boyfriend and you will be forced to pay for both of them in order to keep "the family" concept.It's a lost battle bro, This is not a black pill or bullshit, It's reality and she fucked you hard while playing with your moral rigidity, Either leave the whole shit behind and disappear completely or try to talk it out (even if it's impossible) or just seek some community to help you with this or seek reddit, Go to some African country and invest there or Invest in Brazil and forget she even existed, Don't marry again.
>>34326391>>34329660>>34330046Anon, Invest in a very good lawyer, Like literally invest In a good lawyer, It will do you fucking wonders, Reopen the case.Also I think marriage does not work, And I believe she might have already calculated it earlier before you even though the marriage was shitty, Always ask yourself if the marriage is really that good or are you just living in a delusion, Even if you provide and give love, There is always this sacrifice of identity which woman have a hard battle with and can't figure out especially if they're dumb and lack critical thinking, Then yeah she lost the battle to convince herself and went full evil mode, And will not try to change her ways as it traumatizes her to stay with you, But that's just possibly her version.Anyways just invest in a good lawyer instead of spending it on cheap escapism or running away, also work as a carpenter since people need it a lot these days.