>>34327722
I can't give good advice because the MILF you want is never the MILF you get in real life. You will never get the messy haired, fatigued, doting, pet name using, sporty, baking craftswoman who wears suits. That's not the "MILF" you get. The one you get is the BPD chick but she just grew to be 40 years old. She ain't gonna be doing shit for you my nigga, her only motive for fucking you either being to make her cuckold husband angry or to entrap you in a child payment scheme. The fantasy Milf you want is married and devoted and won't want you. You cannot have her, bro. Unless you find a woman your age your similar and marry her and put kids in her and grow old with her. Then you got your MILF.

>>34327747
Not OP but surely there are women that put muh career first and then accidently 45+yo with no husband or kids.

>>34327722
if you need help picking up old women, you're a lost cause
seriously

>>34327760
anon.. what do you think the M stands for?
Motherhood and childbirth are essential and formative.

>>34327760
Those aren't MILFs
The acronym MILF means
>Mother Id like to fuck

A 45 year old spinster isn't a milf, both in mind and body their mind ain't got the hormonal changes that come with pregnancy and child birth. And their body ain't full MILF either, no wide birthing hips or mom-ass (these physical changes occur during mid to late term pregnancy, hips open up and wide at the bone to make room for expanding uterus)

>>34327767
>>34327774
Hm yeh I know what teh M stands for but I thought people use it to refer to any older woman thats still somewhat attractive. I didnt think of hormonal changes desu.

>>34327774
If you would see a woman after giving birth, you would be surprised how disgusting her body looks like. I don’t recommend.

>>34327781
Yeah the hormonal changes are key. Non-milfs can have wide hips don't get me wrong but there's wide hips and then there's birthing wide hips, hips that opened over 9 months due to pregnancy changes. When you know you know

>>34327782
>If you would see a woman after giving birth, you would be surprised how disgusting her body looks like. I don’t recommend.

Are you kidding? My attraction for my woman shot up and skyrocketed. Oh noo her ass got fuller her boobs got larger and her hips got wider oh no how disgusting aaah poor me, I can't stand the lactation and the obscenely pheromonal scent of her milk and her womanly body as she nurtures our young. The horror!

>>34327788
I mean, if you have lactation fetish then yeah, you might enjoy it but most men don’t like soggy tits, stretch marks, excessive fat or vaginas ruined by childbirth.

>>34327797
Begs the question why such men would even want MILFs then if that's how they feel my nigga. Kinda makes Freud seem correct, that maybe it ain't really about the fucky fuck after all, it's about mom

>>34327797
It takes a lot of work to have a good birth. Most women think they just 'eat for two' and that's it, that's why their pussies tear and they get bad loose skin, that's why true MILFs are rare and coveted. Specific nutritional changes, specific exercises and training, mindfulness and good psychological health, etc. all contribute to a supple, easy birth. Not to say that obstetric care is 100% preventative of issues, many things can go wrong even with perfect prep, but damn it helps.
and all the postpartum stuff too, like belly wrapping and cocoa butter. A lot of love goes into a developing MILF body.
Unless of course, like in the OOP image, they also like the trashy single mom who won genetic lottery for good fat distribution. Personally not for me but can see the objective archetype appeal.

>>34327788
Weird question but have you tried her milk? Im dying to know how does it taste and how does it feel for a man

>>34327820
Flavour is too subjective, too many variables (baby age, baby nutritional needs, mother diet, mother menstrual cycle, goes on). Baseline is a nuanced, rounded sweetness.
The feeling? peaceful, warm, soothing, entrancing...

>>34327722
Find a bar in your city that they frequent

>>34327820
Smells faintly like vanilla and has a taste of watered down almond. It's got a distinct dull sweetness to it. How it feels in texture is similar to watered down milk, not as creamy as cow milk has more watery-ness to it though it's as white as it most days. Despite the watery consistency it's very sticky when it dries on the skin, it's like sugary water or something lol

>>34327831
Also this guy knows his shit. He clearly had also sampled it as well. He is right, it does change and vary. It's actually fascinating how it does that I could rant about it, but TLDR the hormones in the woman are synchronised with the child's in such a way the milk will change to provide beneficial bacteria if mom's bodybdetects the child is sick or it will change in watery-ness if the moms body detects the child is in fever or the weather is hot to keep baby hydrated. Fucking miraculous. God bless boobs.

>>34327841
Holy fuck you actually did try it. Why would you do that in a first place? Was it a sexual thing or just curiosity?

>>34327854
It was both, it's the visual, hormonal, physical hallmark of a grown woman in full bloom. Hell yeah I tried it

>>34327859
How did she react?

>>34327722
I pulled a 32 year old blonde milf by just being myself in a wildlife camp where I just enjoyed talking and meeting all the people in the encampment. We would always end up talking to each other in the nightly fires and one day it just happened. It felt a bit awkward at first as it felt like i wasn't supposed to do it with her but thats the magic I guess.

>>34327874
Self conscious as hell in typical woman fashion lol She was surprised that I boldly went for it, tried to nervously caution me to stop sucking her tits because the milk was gonna leak and erupt but I doubled down and kept going and by then she could tell I was serious about enjoying her so she relaxed and latched a hand behind my head and grasped at my hair and enjoyed the attention I gave to that part of her so now it's erogenous for her

>>34327760
>45+yo with no husband or kids.

Can we let go of boomer memes already? Staying together forever isn't really a thing many humans do, most geezer couples only remained together due to massive economical and social outside pressure to do so.
As it stands, people tend to have partnershipts for about 10-20 years, which is coincidentally the time it takes to rear a batch of kids.
As such, theres a smorgasboard of percetly fine 40+ women on the market. Plus the ones stuck in conservacuckoldry, officially married but tired of their husbands and looking to fuck.*

*None of this may apply if your're in some hick town, in this case cheating housewives are your best bet and readily available.

>>34327722
>>34327895
adding to this. I regularly play guitar in a local bar. There are always some lonely 28+ women there. If you just act happy and not like some drunk ass loser, and say hi to them and spend like 5 minutes with them, you eventually get closer to one that fancies you. Then there will be this one lucky night where one of them is looking to get laid and starts drinking more than usual, she will touch you more and laugh a lot at your words. Then you make the move and settle it.
The downside is that women like these have been passed around a lot and have a lot of trauma. So don't get pissed if they reverse-gear all of a sudden when you're making out in some back street and they don't wanna go further. Just be cool about it and kiss their forehead and make sure they go home safe. You'll have your chance another day.

>>34327895
>>34327959
What I'm about to say it's unrelated to the milf topic but I want to say it, you really seem like a really cool and happy person and to be honest, I wish I could be more like that. I'm depressed over my past as a degenerate and being an overall piece of shit in the past so there's this 'gloomy' energy around me. Do you have any advice on guilt and finding happiness in life?

>>34327940
Nta, but honestly I cant imagine going for it, it seems weird and unnatural to me. Do you find lactating women sexually attractive? Why?

>>34327951
>Can we let go of boomer memes already? Staying together forever isn't really a thing many humans do, most geezer couples only remained together due to massive economical and social outside pressure to do so.

Not everyone's parents are part of the 51% divorce rate anon. Some people grew up different and had parents that loved each other and that typically means they grow to find fulfillment in keeping a marriage.

>>34328000
>Nta, but honestly I cant imagine going for it, it seems weird and unnatural to me. Do you find lactating women sexually attractive? Why?

If it was unnatural, women wouldn't be lactating lol. But they do, and it's because it's natural. Only a small percentage of women can't lactate, about 2% due to medical issues. Is it weird? Yeah, but there's good weird and bad weird. Weird is just another word for 'unfamiliar'. Some people get off on the unfamiliar, it's exciting, I'm one of those type of men I guess

I find it sexually attractive largely from what I said earlier >>34327859
It's womanly as hell for all the reasons: Comes from boobs, comes from women, kicks in at the peak of her hormonal and physiological blossoming into womanhood. And I am attracted to women so I naturally dig it

>>34327951
>Staying together forever isn't really a thing many humans do
Yeah? Those 60% of lasting marriages just figments of our collective imagination? But I am going to guess they're brainwashed or oblivious, and you know better?

>>34327996
I'm telling you I was absolutely like that man. It took me a long time to figure it out but I did it. I was sad and lonely as fuck through my teenage years all the way up to 24 years old. At some point I had enough and did unexpected things from myself. I took a job, started taking care of myself physically, started cooking meals other than pasta and canned tuna. Stopped smoking weed. I didnt know what I had to change but I was so sick of myself that I just completely changed everything. Removed all my vidya games. I was a ranked fiend on any kind of competitive game. Removed. I just went to work that year and also finished last year of uni that I was dragging along so much. Turns out school was a giant burden on me that graduating alone made me feel much better. Afterwards things just had a domino effect. I moved out to another city, new job, I was genuinely excited to go out and meet new people. Eventually the new people I met just told me things that the old me never heard in my life. That I was such a fun person to be around, I was extroverted bla-bla. Then women became an easier topic as well. It made me realize I can rebuild myself and that motivation carried me through. You won't believe in this shit until you get some actual real world result. I don't want to put out a giant text out here but I think I could get the point sort-of across.

>>34327722
celulite unironically might turn me asexual

>>34328059
Thank you Anon. I did something similar to what you did but my results were unfortunately different. I left everything behind and started backpacking the world but I realized that wherever I went there was I. I can't escape myself but I hope one day I can find the same passion for life that you have because I think people can sense that I'm depressed. I wonder if there's a God; sometimes I think my problems could have some sort of spiritual element to it

>>34328059
NTA but fucking hell, man. You did the great turnaround at 24? You got me beat, took me until 28 to reach that same progressive realisation and hunger to evoke change. Well done mate, well done indeed. Keep up the momentum and should you ever fail or falter, remember where you came from, and how far you've come. Though I suspect I don't need to tell you that, you already know you got it in you. Peace and love

>>34328095
It doesn't matter 24 or 28 man its both really good. It becomes later visible that a lot of people never really make that change. I'm co-living with a guy thats 35 and eventually I realized he never had the balls to change himself and he's full of regret and lost passion. It made me quite sad to explore that about him. I do get depressed every now and then but at least now I don't hide that and try to act tough. I just take care of myself a bit more, buy myself some nice steak or call some friend and tell him wahts up. Thats how it is.

>>34328011
No a mutt, so I don't give a fuck. Also not caring about what 60+ people do.

>that loved each other and that typically means they grow to find fulfillment in keeping a marriage.
Sometimes people simply grow in different directions. No harm done. What does harm is "staying together for the kids" and other nonsense spawned by the marriage meme.

>>34328049
>Those 60% of lasting marriages just figments of our collective imagination?
How many of those engage in serial (mutual) cheating? How many just seethe in quiet resentment because they'd rather play pretend than get looked at weird by the neighbours?
I have more than one friend who celebrated the day their parents got officially divorced, because they at least didn't have to bear the atmosphere of constant subdued anger anymore.
The idea that any couple not formally divorced is somehow loving and happy is utterly hilarious, an absurd notion. You cannot formalize relationships and declare them loving by the power of bureaucracy.

>>34327722
Why do you want a milf rather than a fertile, nubile woman?

>>34328118
>I'm co-living with a guy thats 35 and eventually I realized he never had the balls to change himself and he's full of regret and lost passion.
Fuck, I know the feeling. After I hit rock bottom and had the do or die lightning strike my ass into changing myself I quickly realized I'd been friends with a lot of sick puppies. Dudes in their mid to late thirties still stuck in teenage malaise. I'm still amicable and I try to maintain friendships with them all but the more I grow the more my life becomes larger, the less I can relate to any of them anymore. I can hit them up to tell them that my kid just learned how to talk and they gloss over it with an awkward "oh that's crazy. Wow cool. So did you install the latest (corporate videigame)?" And all I can say is "Nah". And the lads spend the next hour discussing video game politics or angst about something some nobody clout chaser said on X etc etc. Stuff I used to enjoy ranting about but just don't care about it anymore

>>34328132
>Also not caring about what 60+ people do.
The numbers are from newly wed figures today anon.

>What does harm is "staying together for the kids" and other nonsense spawned by the marriage meme.
That's not a meme, that's just a basic fact. It's not exactly a coincidence that criminals, addicts, and the mentally perturbed have a very large single-mother background correlation. The kids are important because the kids are the next generation. We were kids too, you and I. And we owe part of how we end up from how we grew up. If people have parents who gave a fuck about their kids, they typically become people who give a fuck to do well in life.

>How many of those engage in serial (mutual) cheating?
For serial cheating? Well only 40% of cheaters are serial cheaters. Cheaters as a whole are about 40-45% of non-marital relationships. And 20-25% of marriages (No surprise, cheaters aren't exactly known for commitments).

So to answer your Q, anywhere between 8-10% of marriages have a serial cheater in them.

>How many seethe in quiet resentment?
Presumably the cheaters who are itching to cheat.

>The idea that any couple not formally divorced is somehow loving and happy is utterly hilarious, an absurd notion.
It's because you didn't experience it.

>>34328137
He's been brainwashed by porn and movies to think "MILFs" are easy to score sex-crazed cougars who obsessed over younger men, instead of just older versions of the same insufferable bitches your age your deal with but added fun baggage from divorces, raising children, being ridden hard by different strange men for twenty years, etc. They don't realize the same rules apply to "MILFs" as any other type of woman, especially if they're still physically attractive.
Many such cases.

people who want MILFs usually weren't breast fed as infants. If it happens to a woman, they have a chance of becoming same sex attracted. OP you need to figure out your emotions regarding your perception of being rejected as an infant, then you'll understand.

>>34328538
Nah, it's not got anything to do with breastfeeding or not breastfeeding. Though that would be incidental to the main issue: Rejection from a parent.

Example:
Mom A doesn't breastfeed her children and opts for formula. She does however show gestures of love to the child frequently: hugs, kisses on the cheek, comforting reassurances and motherly love.

Mom B breastfed the baby, but did so with great reluctance and begrudging emotion. Would often snap and get angry at her own baby, yelling at a newborn. The moment baby could be weaned off of the breast was the moment momma stopped giving a fuck and did bar minimum emotionally, ignoring all the child's fears or discomforts, coldly leaving them alone unnurtured emotionally and mentally.

Which kid gets the mom issue? Kid A or B? It's Kid B. Because it's not the breastfeeding that is a factor.

>>34328484
This. The real key is making them forget that they're older.

>>34328634
>Making them forget that they're older
Have you tried fucking an old lady with dementia? They forget that all the time

>>34328634
That’s not really the point I was making. I’m saying the same rules apply for picking up MILFs as any other woman, as in you need to be attractive, high status, grooming on point, all the usual shit. They are not desperate for sex and won’t fuck just because you’re young and full of cum. I’ve known plenty of older women, dated a few of them, trust me if they look good they have plenty of options. Also a lot of them are not just looking for quick flings, a lot of them want commitment even worse than younger girls because they don’t want to get old by themselves.

>>34328638
I'm talking milfs (30-40) not fucken old bags of bone.
>>34328652
"girls just wanna have fun". They're not looking to date you idiot, they want to fuck and feel young again

>>34328652
Nta but it's not only they don't want to get old by themselves, they want someone to replace the provider they lost aka ex-husband. Single mothers are what you are describing, and single mothers are bottom of the barrel women and I'd personally not consider them MILFs. Remember the acronym: Mother I'd Like to Fuck. Sane men wouldn't like to fuck a single mom, because they know what kind of bat shit that entails. They cling and try to stick their claws in desperately because they know most men don't want to marry a divorceé, don't wanna raise a other man's spawn, and these women hell-bent on finding father #2 because they are exhausted and run down from looking after kids all by herself and needs a man to "step up to the plate" and take accountability for life fuck-ups that she herself had created. They're really not stable women to be fucking with so to call them "MILFs" doesn't hit the right note for me

>>34328673
>single mothers are bottom of the barrel women
Having dated 2 and married one, I can state with confidence that this isn't remotely true.

>>34328657
"Girls just wanna have fun"
Did you seriously just quote a fucking pop song lyric to prove a point? Lol. That lyric is from Cyndi Lauper. She was 30 and unmarried and childless at the time of recording the song. The song itself was also marketed to teenage girls.

Also, don't think you're the one in control of the situation with an older woman. You're not, you're her boy toy, her human dildo. She doesn't need the young buck to feel young, she doesn't need you to forget she's old, she already decided she doesn't wanna feel old and uses things or people to suit herself. But she knows you're not a man, not the stud you think you are for fucking her BPD infested pussy.

>>34328683
You dated 2 single moms and married one. That's a pattern anon, what about single moms do you enjoy?

>>34327722
>Single mother
A woman wrote this.

>>34328620
the women who choose the more difficult path of breast feeding their infants are more likely to be affectionate by intention. it's the lazy uninterested parents who formula feed

>>34328716
>the women who choose the more difficult path of breast feeding their infants are more likely to be affectionate by intention. it's the lazy uninterested parents who formula feed

Is it? Because it takes less time to pull out a breast and feed the baby than it does to prepare a formula bottle. From what I understand, the women who go to formula are the ones who find breastfeeding too painful.

>>34328657
>They're not looking to date you idiot, they want to fuck and feel young again
I guarantee you that I've known more older women than you and most of the single ones are looking for hubby number 2
>>34328689
>>34328673
This applies even to the older women who I've dated who were childless and never married. You'd be surprised how many chicks make it to like 40 just getting passed along between different dudes using them as a cum bucket (like me). It'd be sad if they didn't do it to themselves.

Everyone is ignoring the point I'm making that the archetypal sex-crazed MILF is a contrivance that exists almost exclusively in porn and nowhere else. If you get involved with an older woman it's gonna be the same lame ass shit as dating any other chick, only more baggage. If you're used to pumping and dumping then fine but it's not gonna be like American Pie where she shows up to your house in lingerie just to fuck you because you're that much of a young stud. I've fucked too many of these old broads to not say something when that bullshit fantasy comes up.

>>34328712
More likely someone who goons to hentai and Jap porn too much. It works in that medium because in Japan moms start ignoring their kids as soon as they're weaned so they wouldn't get in the way anyway.

>>34328730
>Everyone is ignoring the point I'm making that the archetypal sex-crazed MILF is a contrivance that exists almost exclusively in porn and nowhere else.
Yeah I know and I am agreeing with you, that's why I call them BPDs who got older. That's why they're the same pedigree of dating any other lame ass chick, like dating an 18 year old. It's because the 40 year old single spinster or cheating wife or desperate single mom with 3 baby daddies all share something in common: None of them actually grew up.
You're right, the fantasy doesn't exist. I'm just expanding on your point, not only does the fantasy not even exist, the reality is even worse than expected

>>34328746
I see, yeah you're bang on about a lot of these chicks not growing up. Especially because they're women and there will always be dudes who want to throw a bone in them they'll always have the leverage they need against facing the consequences of their own shitty ways.

>>34328738
NTA but when it comes to MILF shit anyway, it's not even mommy issues at play anyway. Intuition would suggest it is mom issues, but in psychology they say "the thing is never the thing". When people's wires get crossed it means exactly that: their thinking isn't straight, things go criss-cross apple sauce and young niggas get lost in that sauce.

What I'm saying is it's dudes with father issues who typically obsess for MILFs. They seek older women because they seek old comfort, they seek being attached at the umbilical cord again, they seek running from stress and hiding behind the skirt of a larger, 'mature' mommy. They typically don't quite feel like full men so have a point to prove to themselves and want to hunt for the mature elk, never the young deer. They also dislike other men typically and are in unconscious competition with other men, it's why they often seek fucking married men, it's to get one over on the husband, on "daddy". Because daddy was a mean son of a bitch to the MILF hunter when he was a wee boy.

>>34328768
>Fucking married men
Meant to say married women*
But what a funny typo that was, because maybe if these types of men fucked their own fathers they'd get it off their chest. Or so Freud says.

>>34328730
>I guarantee you that I've known more older women
Quality VS quantity. Way to say you know a bunch of dumb bitches lmao

>>34328778
NTA but that's the point: Hunting for MILFs will only net you dumb bitches. Because only a dumb bitch fucks around and plays the field at age 40. And only a dumb bitch seeks to cheat on their husbands and sabotage the family with kids and all. The 'Quality' MILF is unattainable if you're a fuckboy.

>>34328778
I guarantee most of those women also make more money than you do
>>34328788
This, and if >>34328778 wasn't retarded he'd know that's why the "Quality MILFs" are looking for dudes their age to remarry, if they're back on the market because their husbands died or cheated/abused them.

>>34328815
He's retarded anon, he will still grasp for any signs of life in the fantasy, it's important to him clearly, he really wants to believe in the fantasy where the older woman will drop her ornately woven fancy lace mom panties for him on a dime and say "ara ara" whenever he so much as breathes because he's such a young stud, a champion, a very special boy lol.

I can't even fault him for the fantasy, I was plagued by it too when I was younger. You seem like you went and tried to live it out. I thankfully never did. I didn't see it back then but I had a gut feeling chasing it would've been bad news. I got older and seen the state of women my own age hitting the wall, getting divorced, being single moms and going to alcoholism or the psych wards and thank fuck I refrained from chasing them around as a young one.

What awaits you now? Are you finished with MILF merry go round? Got any plans for yourself to do it different?

>>34328723
that's right it can be painful, but it's objectively better for the baby in every conceivable way.

>>34328837
>What awaits you now? Are you finished with MILF merry go round? Got any plans for yourself to do it different?
Eh it's not that I was MILF hunting in particular, I was just on a rip of fucking and taking whatever I could get at the time.
I'm honestly just trying to take a break from women and enjoy my freedom, but it is lonely. I think next time I put myself back out there I'm going to look for something long term with a younger girl (I'm mid thirties so I'm talking like mid 20s)

>>34328837
That's quite a bit of projection. I'm not a stud or anything lmao.

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>>34329161
I accidentally left off pet names. I had a gf who used to call me dollface, and I never really liked that name specifically but I did enjoy the sentiment.

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>>34329644
Step up your game anons neither of you even got a bingo. Read it and weep fools I got two bingoes

>>34328897

>I'm honestly just trying to take a break from women and enjoy my freedom, but it is lonely. I think next time I put myself back out there I'm going to look for something long term with a younger girl (I'm mid thirties so I'm talking like mid 20s)
Good shirt and I wish you the best of luck brother. Sex is fun and shit, but you get to an age where it becomes obvious that nothing beats a good morning cuddle with a good woman on your chest or late night relaxing doing the same. Having the sex and the love at the same time is a good combo. I'm rooting for ya dude, your goal is obtainable enough. 10 year age gap is more common than you think, lots of early-mid 20s women enjoy the mid thirties man

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I wanna bang a fat milf so badly

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>>34327722
The only things appealing to me are:
1) doting
2) sporty
3) chubby
4) busty
5) wide hips
6) baker
7) closet pervert

The rest are just glamorized downsides. If you're 50, I understand the appeal. You can't get any better than this
But in my current point in time, still in uni, I can get those good things without having to glamorize the bad

>>34327722
>how do I get a woman from a generation that I don’t give the ick to by existing
talk to them because they aren’t on that f*minism shit

>>34329867
>how do I get a woman from a generation that I don’t give the ick to by existing
That's the thing, you can still give them the ick because they're still women, whether or not they're on "feminism shit"
An attractive older woman isn't going to get with some creepy sex-obsessed 4chan incel loser just because he's half her age.
Look at how many older OF sluts there are. This isn't some 90s porno, there are no sex-starved desperate housewives anymore, they can get as much Chad dick as any young sloot if they look decent enough for you to want to fuck 'em

>>34329894
Can doesn’t mean is and the difference is reliance on the internet vs the choice of adding the internet to your dating options.

>>34327940
My god, You reached divinity

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This is exactly what your fantasy is gonna be like ,An old grumpy sociopath

>>34329867
They are on that feminism shit. They're millennials. This doesn't matter though. They're old and therefore desperate.

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>>34327722
Find one who is sexually frustrated and give her attention. That's it. But if she isn't frustrated, then you'd better be good looking and have a stable job.

>>34327797
>soggy tits
>vaginas ruined by childbirth
All fixable. Only caveat is if she will submit.