>>34332811
> I‘ve hated being a woman ever since I started going through puberty. I hate other women too
Stopped reading here. Get over your self. You will need be happy if you can’t accept who you are and find comfort in your self identity.

>>34332811
>There is nothing glorious about being a female, but maybe there is a way to lobotomise myself into enjoying this pathetic life so that I don’t traumatise my family and friends by shooting my brains off.

First consider if its stems from some personal issues like self hate or feeling of unworthiness or its rational/ideological in which case you programed yourself to think that way.

If its the second, you meassure your worth by some traditional male standard. But why should you aven adhere ar care for it. You fell for a ideology/worldview that makes you feel worthless, but why give it such power, just program yourself to other ideology/beliefs. You should never loik at ideology as something superior to you, but as on a tool. Every ideology is inperfekt and at base arbitrary, dont give this shit too much power over urself. Thats how people end up as pawns for grifters/fanatics.

Also dont do it, some retarded expectations whith which you were programed along the way are not worth it. Society tend to treat people as cogs anyway, so while women may be seen as breeding sows, men are seen as cannonfodder or work tools.

>>34332905
To elaborate, you don’t have to identify as breeding stock or a caretaker or whatever, you don’t even have to identify as a woman, just be secure with yourself and know your place community that accepts you.

>>34332905
I know that even the fact that I'm not content with who I am is pathetic by itself, but if you read further I don't think most self-respecting people would find much consolation in this identity I was forced into either. I can't overcome my womanhood no matter how hard I try.

>>34332931
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ueV0WPUUAj0&t=8057s&pp=ygUVc2FjcmFsIGNoYWtyYSBoZWFsaW5n
Close your eyes and just sit and listen to this with headphones, it will help make things more clear

>>34332930
It seems that most communities I have come across view women the way I do to at least some extent. Not sure what ideology is out there to help me delude myself into feeling as if I have any value beyond those beliefs.

I will say that I would rather take the role as cannon fodder or a tool instead of something as animalistic and humiliating as a breeding sow. I have even seriously considered signing up to become a soldier, however that might still get me raped and humiliated.

>>34332931
You can change how you view womanhood.

>>34332940
Feminism, or if thats too retarded for you, some more esoteric stuff like Mutterrecht or some renesanse writers (im looking at that myself now). Tho more interesting stuff is never black and white and it also depends on interpretation. You were probably stuck in male communities and adopted those views, convinced thete were the truth and not just tool for self interest of male members.

>>34332952
It's fine, humans will act for their own interest no matter what. I'm just upset cause I'm naturally weak and was conditioned to care for others more than myself. I have tried to convince myself for ages to just shut up and accept my role, but my caring side and my ambitious side are tearing me apart.

I'll look into those alternative ideologies, thank you. I didn't expect anyone to take me seriously.

>>34332979
most of it are nit realky ideologies more some books and stuff, I was never really into studying women centric ideologyes, more like to see what exist as counter to more popular ones. But if you search for it im sure you will find it.

But I think you should stop taking ideologies to seriously, as they are interest based or at most reduce world to just one perspective, dissmissing everything else. Also try to not be too hung on what others or society expect from you and cate more what you want, what you think or feel is right.

>>34332979
>I have tried to convince myself for ages to just shut up and accept my role,

Also, try to internalise that you have no duty to play into a role somebody choise for you. Let them go fuck themself.

>>34332998
It's difficult to not look outwards as most people I interact with will make generalizing statements about women. I'll look at my situation and think wow, all these needs and complaints you have are such typical woman behaviour. I don't even want to be associated with anything like that.

I guess I have to get stronger in that regard and not let it affect me so much. My period is coming soon, or something. I'm sorry for complaining in the first place. Or maybe I shouldn't see myself unworthy of complaining in the first place. But then if I don't care I'm just a bitch. I should just sign up for the army. A dead bitch can't be annoying. I'm sorry for being spineless. I'm sorry for wanting to be of use. I'm just so alone.

You're right - you can't change your sex despite what mentally ill trannies would have you believe.
There is no point wishing you were born a man. I wish I were born into the Royal Family but I'm not - I've got to make the best of what I was given. Come to peace with the fact that you were born a woman and will always be a woman.
You mention that you would make a good mother.
Instead of seeing your sex as some sort of punishment, lean into your femininity. Get married, have children, be a loyal and loving wife and mother.

>>34333022
I doubt any children would deserve a mother as mentally weak and torn as I am. My mother is the strongest, most beautiful woman there is, and I have tried so hard to be like her. She has an admirable career, takes care of everyone and everything no matter what, is there emotionally for her children, takes good care of herself, and still maintains a positive outlook in life. I'm too ill, too weak. I can't be a woman like that, I don't even think there is any man in the world that can be like that. Maybe I just want this responsibility taken away from me.

obviously fake bait, reported

>>34333020
I think much steam from your personal issues where you feel unworthy. I know somethung about politics/ideology but im not that good with personal stuff and dont know how to adress that part. Also I never had much problem with feeling useless, I take kind of pride in it, if I could I would like to be NEET, but now I just phonepost on company dime.

You are on anonimous board meant to whine or call others faggot anyway so you shouldnt care. Also both sexes can be annoying maybe you have more masculine personality (or part of it) and find being with men better. But male behaviour is retarded in different way, so you shouldnt idelize it too much.

>>34333035
I understand why you'd think women lack the introspection for something like this.

>>34333038
I do tend to have black and white thinking. I am trying to work on that.

I appreciate your understanding. I feel shame talking about this to anyone.

I apologize for the self-pity. I'll get back to work now.

>>34332979
>humans will act for their own interest no matter what
No humans act in the interest of their tribe

>>34333040
i mean it's hard to believe anyone is even replying, it's so obviously AI generated.

>>34333052
At least as far as ideologies go, you can get there in time. It took me 20 years and polsci master (which is in retrospect wasting 6 years on useless information).

>>34333122
Some do, some dont. Its /pol/ wishfull thinking, but reality dont coresponds to it, so they lose their shit about normies.

>>34333131
It doesnt matter anyway, even if bait its not like I have anything better to do.

>>34333131
Not sure what I could do to convince you of my lived experience, but whatever you choose to believe it's okay.

>>34333149
shutup retard. we all know you're a man using chatgpt.

post tits or gtfo

>>34333182
Man I wish.

>>34333185
Ayy there it is

>>34332811
>I‘ve hated being a woman ever since I started going through puberty. I hate other women too.
This is fucking retarded. Most people are fully retarded.
>the humiliation ritual called penetrative sex.
It's not. You are also fucking them.
>There is nothing glorious about being a female,
Raising /carrying children is the pinnacle of existence for many. Women can be capable like men, albeit from a different perspective, with different affects.

Keep in mind most men are garbage, if not worse than women in some ways. There are exceptions to anything, Self hate is useful, but you have to channel it.

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>>34332811
>I‘ve reached the level of a man
YOU WILL NEVER BE A MAN
you will always fall short
focus on femininity. embrace the power of being a woman. its not being a boss bitch. its submitting to a man and providing him what he needs
your cunt of a mother should have taught you this

>>34333249
Your cunt of a mother should have told you not to have such a potty mouth. Go back to the Indian village you came from, retard.

>>34333149
You post your tits like >>34333185 says
Even clothed is fine if you include a timestamp

>>34333363
it'll never happen. he's definitely Indian

we need flags and IDs on /adv/

>>34333363
Maybe my real loss as a woman is the fact that I can’t stuff a cock down your throat rn

>>34333381
Wouldn’t that cause everyone to leave then?

>I hate other women too. I think that women are all that is wrong with humanity and they never should have gotten any rights or special treatment.
Started out tempting but you took it too far. As much as I want to dogpile on a pickme it isn't real :(

>>34333034
You're good enough to have kids. Stop making excuses and lay off the self pity. Make the babies and do the best you can.

>>34333602
Alright good to see that you came to the conclusion that I‘m a real woman. Good boy.

>>34333621
The line between man with chatgpt and pick me is so thin that there’s no in-between. Why can’t I have a real problem with my womanhood without it being for male attention according to you all?

>>34333602
If I told you how often I get hit on irl you‘d think I‘m lying anyway, no point posting on here anymore. Thanks to the people at the beginning who gave useful advice.

>>34332811
I dunno, if you don't wanna self hate maybe focus on the good parts of being a woman? Being a guy sucks, no one cares about you and you're expected to do everything yourself and for others. If you can't enjoy being a woman, just focus on the shit parts of being a man, accept that its shit in its own way on this side to and maybe then you can reach a sort of acceptance.

>>34332811
marry me

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>>34333960
You're saying that like it's an unbreakable law of the universe. I know I'm not important. I appreciate you taking the time to reply to this thread.

>>34333791
just to clarify, no one in here actually thinks you're a woman. we know you're a man. it's just that most people here don't have anything better to do, so going along with your larp is at least better than nothing.

>>34334040
This. It's a fun thought experiment

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>>34334040
Fuck it

>>34334098
stop larping with your mom's bra and her contraceptives

tits with timestamp or gtfo

>>34334098
hey hey! should have led with that as your main image, although to be fair you didn't know what your post number was going to be before starting the thread.

>there's nothing glorious about being a woman

what's your definition of glorious. are you using the real, biblical definition of glory? the all encompassing weight and presence of the god of the universe? in that case yes, you're correct. but that's also nothing glorious about being a man either. we all fall short of the glory of God. welcome to the club it's got nothing to do with whether you have a penis or a vagina.

>>34334119
Not sure whose mother would own a 32A pushup bra. Usually women’s tits get permanently bigger after pregnancy.

>>34332811
Anon, no one is obligating you to have children… Just get your tubes removed if you’re against the idea of becoming a mother. No one will judge you nor do they care enough to impose their own beliefs on your choice. Just go do it.

>>34334128
That’s true, but I was thinking more about the glory of dying in battle or being great in a certain field or career as opposed to something as common as birthing and caring for children and being a homemaker.

>>34334154
No, I want to become a mother for a man I love. I‘m just having a bit of a crisis.

>>34334169
Well, I’m sorry to burst your bubble but motherhood does embody a lot of feminine qualities that are simply not present in men. And you will be expected to be the main caregiver in the marriage. I think this whole identity crisis of yours can be boiled down to, “I’m trying to suppress my own ideas.” You can still follow any pursuit that is perceived as “masculine” while taking on a feminine role. You’re also denying the fluidity of gender expression through this retarded rant. It’s either you want kids or you don’t. Stay true to yourself, very simple.

>>34334146
My mom
And she doesn't even fill it
She started out with b cups but after 4 kids it's basically just skin and giant nipples there's no boob left
>permanently bigger
No they don't

>>34334195
It sounds like you all share my views in that women are subhuman and are telling me to just accept that. Most men I know are this way, even if they don’t like accepting it. It’s not about expression, it’s about genetics. Just imagine it, would you be proud of yourself if you were born female?

>>34334201
Alright well I‘m not posting my tits or pussy online. This is the best I can do.

>>34332811
intimidating women, that can reconcile their feminine and masculine are seductive and manipulative. they can charm powerful men to do their bidding. but they can reach that level if they accept and develop both energies or delve deep into their feminine until it transforms into a femme fatale.
you're jsut comparing to a man like a retard similar to a tranny wearing makeup, a wig and a dress.
stop taking pills it fucks with your brain

>>34334281
Don't you call women who use their feminine charm to their advantage things like sluts or gold diggers?

>>34334290
only if i'm spiteful and not under her charm

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>>34334163
>glory of dying in battle
kek. There is nothing glorious in being blown up by a drone for some kike/oligarch/ideologue etc. Just poor lads getting dragged from strears or brainwashed so somebody can get rich or LARP thei fantasy.

Also there were women in science.

>>34334219
As much as being a man. At least I would be able to post cunt and tits pics on OF instead wageslaving.

Lives of most people are average and boring. Some achieve greatness, both men and women. But i strive for comfy, to live for myself and things and people I like.

>>34332811
Jesus wouldn't have existed if Mary didn't birth and raise him, consider that. And unless you live in a shithole you never have to get married have s@x or have children. You can even find an asexual guy if you want company. And what glory are you talking about lol, most people have normal lives.

>>34332811
Find someone you can be in a relationship with role reversal. Bring it up to them honestly and openly and tell them what you really want

>>34334317
I guess it's not the pinnacle of glory if you put it that way. I just don't like the potential humiliation I can face as a woman.

Unfortunately my science research is going terribly, so I won't be one of those great women of science.

Selling your body is not something that would make people respect you, no matter how progressive your community is.

I should adopt that outlook. I should stop looking at misogynist things online that make me feel like scum and spend more time with my family.

>>34334219
I’m sorry, but who is “you all”? I’m a biological female who, like you (although you wouldn’t like to admit it), has a general aversion for cis men. I even consider myself an androgynous person, but I don’t let societal gender norms dictate my identity or who I am as a person. You must have very low self-esteem if you presume everyone around you to be a misogynist. I’m not forcing you to have children. What I said is to make up your damn mind because you’re clearly conflicted by the idea. If you think a child is going to damage your self-image, don’t have them then. That fucking simple. But don’t judge or resent other women for their decision to become mothers.

>>34334356
>I should stop looking at misogynist things online that make me feel like scum and spend more time with my family.
You know what? You SHOULD do that. You seem a bit confused, you'll figure it out. Just stay off 4chan and social media

>>34334408
You started talking about things like "the fluidity of gender expression" and I should have known that you are another woman. I don't resent women for their decision to be mothers. That's typically a woman's role, just like a man's role is to be a father. I also never felt forced by you or anyone else to have children. That is up to me to decide at a point of my life when I feel comfortable to do so.

Since you are here, what makes you proud to be a woman? And why did you get so upset at my replies?

>>34334436
Thank you, I will.

Go with the flow and be who you are

>>34334461
Thanks Mike

>>34334356
If you are not a top dog all this glory and duty shit is just a way to brainwash poor lads to selfsacrifice in war or on work to make the elite fatter or indulge their delusions. For women its I guess birth and being wife. But it doesnt matter, its the same principle, spewing high words to get poor lads/gals to do shit for free. Fuck then, they want something? Let them give something concrete in return, not just bullshit phrases.

>>34334469
Np. You being in the dominant role naturally is hot desu.

>>34334486
To be more specific Im not saying you should not be wife/mother. Or good worker, scientist etc. Or neet or slacker. Do what you find fullfilling, not what somebody told you its your duty or society expect it.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with this as I find this quite relatable. I don't have much of a plausible advice to give so good luck with your life and how it turns out.

>>34334573
At least I know that there are others like me out there. Good luck to you too.

>>34332811
to embrace the gift of one self is to find peace. you sought to be others, but fail to acknowledge the sorrow of others. i find it amusing how we all seek a mean to mourn, for all of us sought to be virtuous, the virtue of enduring and conquering, or just that modern life brew modern problem. nonetheless, what im trying to convey is that you would still bitch if you were a man, as to be competent as a man is almost to embrace the loneliness in the pursuit of triumph. the other side of the field isnt necessary greener even if you have the mean to go there

>>34332811
>the only method of reaching female sexual satisfaction
Lmao do you not know how to masturbate or something

>I even think I would make a good mother
You really wouldn't with your retarded ass completely baseless distorted views on everything. Like oh the horror, if you were to have a daughter!!

#notallmen#notallwomen#notallhumans#notallorganisms#notallinsects#notallplants#notallvegetables

>>34336140
Alright dumb foid

>>34337567
Alright dumb ad hominem retard