Is this really even an option? I thought about it the other day when I was in a grocery store. I saw a woman with a nice ass. I basically never talk to women I don't know in a flirtatious way ever. However, I had considered it that day briefly(didn't do it). What upset me is that even if I did talk to her, I would have nothing to warrant me speaking to her. I obviously can't say "Wow, your ass is fat. Can I talk to you for a bit?" Basically, it never feels natural to just strike up a conversation with someone because I realize they are at that place for a reason and that reason probably isn't to talk to me. However, I don't know what else to do to even try to meet women. Online dating doesn't work and friends of friends dating isn't working for me either because my friend group is smaller. So I feel my last resort is to try real life but even that seems impossible. I hate going up to random women and just start yapping because it seems so retarded. What are my options? Maybe it is okay to talk to women in that capacity.
>>34356990Cold approach at a grocery store is probably not a good idea. Imagine if some gay man walked up to you while you were trying to buy food, that would suck.
>>34357000Retards like you is why birthrates are collapsing
>>34357000I don't think this is a good comparison. Because if a woman walked up to me and started chatting me up... I'd be very receptive. However, people will argue and say its because men rarely get attention from women in that way. But if a woman walked up to me and started yapping, I'd feel great.
>>34357004It has nothing to do with me. Men get kicked out and banned from public places and I did nothing to cause that.>>34357010If you're an unattractive male, you are the equivalent of a 300lbs woman or gay man walking up to you.
>>34357016What if I fall somewhere in the middle?
>>34357021It's the same because women only consider the top 20% of men attractive only.
>>34357029Is that true? As a man, I find a lot of women attractive in general. But I am fine with mid women. In fact, I prefer mid women.
>>34357032https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/women-more-selective-80-men-unattractive-on-dating-apps-recent-research
>>34356990No OP, just walk away. She prolly knows she got a fatass and loves the attention. You talking to her is just feeding her ego, she won't accept your advances, and probably get ya kicked out and charged for SA. Leave those crazies be and look out for yourself. It ain't worth it and this ain't the 90s anymore when men can approach women for whatever
>>34357036I had that thought also. I am sure any woman with a fat ass or fat tits knows what she has. I think the reason why I am even afraid to talk to women like that is because I know she is most likely taken already too. Especially if its a woman around my age. Late 20's early 30's. There is no way you get to be that age, have fat ass and fat tits AND NOT have dudes basically throwing their dicks at you non-stop. Unfortunately I sort of play a game with myself when I see a woman like that. I try to guess if she has kids already. If she is hispanic, fat ass OR fat tits and is in her 20's to early 30's, she has kids already for sure. I would say I am rarely wrong when using that criteria. However, a friend brought up a good point to me. If all humans would like to have sex and some humans have an easier time doing that, they probably would totally indulge in that. So assuming most women would like to have sex, the women with a nice body are probably going to have sex if they want. If I were desirable, I probably would have had sex by now also.
Getting laid is very easy, talking to girls, approaching, having them approach me. I Have experienced that already. Love, true love is rareThat's what I choose
>>34357004Eh, society itself is collapsing, men are trying to figure it out but we have no institutional power to really be confident enough to pursue these things, and women are really trashy lately.>>34357505I only ever got approached by women when I was in a relationship or like when I was 15. Feelsbadman, am old now I guess.
>>34357547I can't relate. Sorry. I'm a first all the time and that only becomes more frequent as I've aged
>>34357029Doesn’t matter if you’re attractive, if you just tell them they’re pretty they will melt like putty
>>34357575Well maybe I've just become increasingly autistic and akward, and most people tend to get on my nerves.After years of meaningless relationships I want something real, just sucks because 90% of people aren't in the same headspace these days.
>>34357593I just have found that after having enough sex that I understand that it's easy to get and it doesn't change anything. It's not love. I gave up on love. And then I met her and experienced soulmate love. That's what I choose and will never give up on. I will not allow a future wherewe do not have each other to happen. She's more important to me and everything else in this life. I put my life on the line for her.
>>34357610Good for you bro, if only it were so easy for the rest of us. Finding healthy foids is pretty rare these days.
>>34357663There are good things and bad things for all of us in life. No reason to be jealous one way or the other. All I really have to say is you should pursue love, real love
>>34356990>I hate going up to random women and just start yapping because it seems so retarded.You're a genetic dead end, then. Most men that ever existed enjoyed talking to women so much they're willing to humiliate themselves over and over again with lines and schemes. You're like a pigeon that won't come out of a dive before it hits the ground, or a rabbit that doesn't think grass tastes good. Every single man including Chad has to go up to women and say something retarded and end up being rejected half the time. That's the bare minimum you have to do if you want to be in the game
No. If you're going to ask out a random stranger you need to meet them in places that they went to to be social, not to buy groceries.
>>34357029right, but women don't agree and each woman's top quintile is heterogenous compared to any other women's
>>34357753>heterogenous Not really. If one woman thinks a man is hot then all of her friends will want to fuck him too because they all engage in groupthink.
>>34357029>>34357035>it's the same in apps and in real lifefucking RETARDS in this board, jfc
>>34357756Extremely untrueI don't currently have any friends but all the friends I've had, my mom, and one of my sisters have awful taste in men. My other sister I at least get it but don't always agree. She thinks David Harbour is hot like what is that about.
>>34357764It's extremely true and real because I have eyes and I can observe the world around me. Just having a woman with you in public makes other women give you more attention.
>>34357785Tell me honestly that you think Channing Tatum is attractive. I will never get it.
>>34357723That's the idea man
>>34357000>comparing unwanted homosexuality to heterosexuality Retard
>>34357890>Comparing unwanted homosexuality to unwanted heterosexualitySeems like a pretty good comparison to me
>>34357547I’ve never been approached by women ever
>>34357893“unwanted heterosexuality” is extremely rare for men
>>34358444Right but we're talking about approaching women
>>34356990"Do you know anything about laundry detergents [or whatever aisle you're in}? I can't tell which of these is better......"
>>34356990You lack social skills and extrovertness but good news is it can be learned to enough degree to get you women.My tips:1. think not of it as approach, think of it as "starting a convo and keeping it going" 2. might take 100 tries, might take 1000, best looking guys who are skilled still have hit rate of about 5%, which means even if you get deep into game, your favorite idol in game is still mainly getting rejected. Dwell on this deeply. Only the ratios change. So you have to become comfortable with nature of the game.3. do not expect women not to flake, or hold them by their words. I know it sounds stupid, but thats how many of them are - flakey. And if you get bent over it you will lose your mind.Adapt, overcome. Eventually you can find a loyal decent person. But she probably flaked on someone too in past lol. Its how it is. 3. have a lot of self compassion, do not condemn yourself for making mistakes, you need A LOT of experience to become step above beginner in this, it takes 1000 "approaches" or convo starters to get out of beginner phase. YOu learn a lot but it cannot be taught. Your body picks up subconscious cues eventually. Honestly, its like riding a bike. You learn by doing it. YOu make adjustments, so many adjustments, WHILE YOU DO IT. If anyone wrote a book about techniques of bike riding it would never compare or help much with the real attempts.YOu just gotta get out and do it and eventually you get better and better.What you need is DATA. A LOT OF IT. Think of yourself like AI. You dont get better with 100 approaches. YOu need 1000s.Just rep em out.
>>34358934Good mindset to have is:Amma start this convo, however it goes it goes, my goal is to establish dynamic I enjoy (you should know what type of dynamic you want with a woman, dominant, submissive, goofy, manly, random, etc, thats ON YOU to figure out), if she is receptive we will vibe and I will keep escalating, if not I will eject (or she will). Some dudes work on finding out what the girls dynamic is and then adapting to playing that role (pure pussy chasers) me I always knew what I want and Im willing to let 100 fishes back to get the one fish that aligns with me since Im built like that. One of the benefits of game is you learn that YOU dont really exist as a constant in mind of women, and they are not a hive mind (which you tend to think due to lack of exposure to them in meaningful ways).a girl might legit run away from you, and next girl might be 9/10 who laughs at all your jokes, next girl might look like she hates talking to you and barely opens up BUT SHE is the one that shows up on a date, and next time you talk a goofy girl and think "soulmate" and she ghosts you next day.You become comfortable with not condemining yourself and knowing that YOU are the best authority on YOURSELF and women just react how they react mostly depending on THEIR past experiences and whatnot.That gives a lot of ease and relief.Best thing I did was spend one year doing approaches, 1.5k about made, then I had to focus on work.I learned so much. But its not for pussies.
>>34357004>Retards like you is why birthrates are collapsingthats awfully rich calling someone else a retard when youre the one erroneously believing that the decline is due to a supposed lack of coercive sex/rape in society and not a myriad of other economic factors. thats your solution: white men need to rape more. wow youre so smart
>>34357756that doesn't refute my labeling it as heterogenous whatsoever. the pool of men a woman finds hot will partially consist of men other women say are hot and partially consist of men they don't
>>34358934>Just jestermaxx
Has anyone ever done that Approach Anxiety program from KYIL? >>34358934>You lack social skills and extrovertness but good news is it can be learned Can 'extrovertness' truly be learned? For those that currently see conversation as a drag/chore and not pleasurable? Can that truly be fixed? Or is that just something we'd feel forever?
>>34359504>Approach Anxiety program from KYIL?qrd?
>>34359504extrovert is just a retarded terminus.it's as stupid as 'social battery'..people who socialize a lot, just like people and enjoy talking do them, etc.that's it. you either like it or not, you don't like it so you don't do it.no, you can't learn to be extrovert.ask yourself, do you genuinely love/like humans, in the deepest sense?
It's important not to look at posts and allow them to emotionally blackmail you as he has done in the past and continues to do
Women are literally BEGGING for guys to approach them again!
Girls are easy to get IRL for me. Unfortunately I love someone whose contact is not that way right now but once the change happens we are good.
>>34358495Anything but tide (israel soap)
>>34359827Wow ai can generate just a floating pair of tits without a person even attached to it? Crazy. I just couldn't see anything above the half point of the screen, those tits have a magnetic field for my EYES
>>34359557Dont know what that means. KillYourInnerLoser for KYIL though.>>34359744Eh. Its a spectrum. Most are probably uninteresting, but they can also be the best parts of life I guess.
>>34356990Not sure if those are ripped jean pants or denim short shorts. I kinda hope it's the latter.
Bump because retards still haven't answered my question.
>>34356990>Is this really even an optionYeah. Everyone is realizing how shit dating apps are. Everyone who wants to succeed is doing it the old fashioned way. Clav said this too.
>>34358934You give cokehead boomer energy
>>34357029It totally depends. Women put on tons of airs with what kind of guy meets their requirements, but will quickly settle for a normal guys that make them happy.Think about all those e-girls saying they need a guy to make high 6 or even 7 figures. You know they’ve been dating broke losers most of their life.
>>34357029What shocked me is those 20% of men have skid marks in their underwear they walk around smelling like poop because they don’t know how to clean their ass. And women love that?
>>34361303thread-ending thruthnuke
>>34361303I saw a video of a guy cold approach a group of girls and they said they were 14 and looked disgusted.
There's nothing you can do desu. Take care of yourself and improve as a person in general, so if or when the chance comes (complete RNG), at least you're ready to take the chance.
>>34364214bluepilled retard
