>>34360152
Go to college, hold on tight to ur dreams!

it’s not really an opportunity if you don’t want to do it, right? i think you should stick with your guns. are there any downsides from following your dreams, you think?

>>34360644
I'm thinking about doing that
>>34360711
>are there any downsides from following your dreams, you think?
My main worry is just not being smart enough, I 'm starting to study math again and I'm slowly getting it but I just fear that when I start college I just won't be smart enough to do what I really want, meanwhile this is a guaranteed opportunity where I will make great money. I feel really confused on what to decide :(

>>34360152
It sounds like you becoming an electrician is your family's ambition, not your own.

>>34361180
Yeah you might be right, this is the first time I heard about it though, I fear now I may not be smart enough for college but I want to try my dreams. Everyone says I'm dumb if I pass on this electrician opportunity though, I'm not sure what to do.

>>34360152
Look at your course work for whatever degree you want, and start reading it now. You don't need the classroom to get the basics of any field, and once you have the philosophical foundations, the forms the school uses and the basics, you can build on it later if you miss classes right now.
BUT if you don't do it, RIGHT NOW as you're starting to solidify at 24, you may never learn it, even if you go to college in a few years.
My suggestion, is find the courses you know you're going to have the least comprehension in, and take them at night, while you join that union in the day. See if you can't work out a 4 day work schedule (should be very doable as a construction trade), and use the 5th day as your college courses study days. I suggest working out your relaxation the day before your college stuff, then you can work the rest of the week and your brain will process what you learned, just pop out your outline notes every night before you sleep and scan them. Don't have to think deeply, just try to remember the key points.
Physical labor is a pain in the ass, nobody prefers it, but it's how things get done, and it's normally Honest, which has a richness many men will, sadly, never know.
Hope that helps.
The key, is if you want advanced Academics, you need to get them started right now before you hit 25ish, because you solidify.
You can work your union job and take one course a season.
And if you're really dedicated to the discipline, you don't need the school, you can library, youtube, and web-forum almost any topic on earth now, and be as prepared, or better, than most uni offerings.
I suggest you look over a couple different unis you want to attend, pull down their course lists for the degree, and be bluntly honest about which ones you don't know, and start learning.

It's your brain anon, what do you want to do with it?
Remember this, Tesla wasn't above digging ditches to stay productive and alive.

>>34361212
Good advice anon. I've been thinking about doing that, I'll need to sit on that a little more because it would be difficult due to my autistic sibling I need t watch too. I'm going to a job fair this week. I'll see if I can get another job to do while I start college ( possibly )

>>34361223
Yeah, the autism thing is a monkey wrench of a form for plans. If you're concerned you can't find helpers to watch (a trusted friend baby-sitter might be enough) just get the course lists, the course texts, and go the library and start reading with/to your charge. I don't know how disabled your kin, but if you can read out loud, the information will go in twice.
The key is to not wait on the professional school, in your case especially. You're going to have to be a professional amatuer until you can finish the courses.
I think the bigger question to you is if you're trying to do EE because it's what you enjoy thinking and doing, or if you're trying to do EE because it "pays well," and you're stuck between two "pay well" choices, not actually a dream.
If you're already interested in being EE, I'd argue you should be spending your time tearing up circuits and building your own.
If you aren't, it's a great career, it will pay well, but it will be as drugery as being an electrician when it comes down to it.
Ask yourself the old starting question.
If I was paid down in debt, and my kin was cared for, I'd traveled the world and impregnated my wife, and I had a weekly allowance of $20k, what would I want to make happen?
Where would I want to see myself moving?
It may be bleeding edge, it may be backup for bleeding edge, it may be social work.
But if you haven't answered that, I think you're at risk of the same problem no matter.
Where do you find yourself learning and practicing stuff that you don't even notice time passing?
Other than sex and self-indulgence.

>>34361249
>I think the bigger question to you is if you're trying to do EE because it's what you enjoy thinking and doing, or if you're trying to do EE because it "pays well," and you're stuck between two "pay well" choices, not actually a dream.
If you're already interested in being EE, I'd argue you should be spending your time tearing up circuits and building your own.
I love computers and I've always been interested in electronics so hardware engineering might be fun and allow me to achieve my dreams
>just get the course lists, the course texts, and go the library and start reading with/to your charge
Right now I'm starting to study algebra again on khan academy before I start college officially. I want to re-learn the stuff I forgot in high school
>Where do you find yourself learning and practicing stuff that you don't even notice time passing?
I'm not 100% sure yet

>>34361255
For high end coding you need calculus and sets math afaik.
The good thing is that calculus is just the discipline of understanding really fine tolerances as you approach "contact."
I would offer another suggestion, if your really dedicated to your family member's care, and you don't mind how that happens, you might consider adult disability day-care work.
Computers and keeping up with technical advances could be a side-hustle or weekend relaxation, and you could spend your time learning how to care for young adults and adults with disabilities.
That's a completely different direction from your theory of electronics, but if you're already doing that, you know more than the average person. Getting in with people doing it, and reading about the various challenges and capabilities of the disabled might be what you want.
Social work is exhausting, disabilities may be permanent and everything you teach is often forgotten in a short period. But I've never met a social worker who regretted it, just those that were burned out. Doesn't pay great, hours can be emotionally exhausting and long.
Maybe there's even some cross-over with lighter disabilities and social disabilities and computer assembly/problem solving.
You could end up managing a shop of "idiot savants," half-retards half-geniuses.
Or you could just have fun explaining and building computers over and over to the same person.
More diversion from your original idea, but fitting closer to your life at the moment.
Remember this basic rule; Grant providers generally want advertising as a big thanks, and a free meal once or twice a year with "important people" helps too.

>>34361288
Sorry for late response
> would offer another suggestion, if your really dedicated to your family member's care, and you don't mind how that happens, you might consider adult disability day-care work.
He's still going to school so I don't need to worry about that, for now
>For high end coding you need calculus and sets math afaik.
Yeah I'm trying algebra just to start from the beginning since google says I need calculus and linear algebra. Gonna keep studying and hope it sticks

>>34360644
>Go to college, hold on tight to ur dreams!
Shit advice, don't follow this, you will end up jobless and with a ton of debt.

>What to do?
Just join the electrician union. Don't need to get into debt for a useless degree.

>I'd be giving up my lifelong dream
You wouldn't, you would be developing a very good skill (electrician), and in the future you can go and further your studies in Japan, search about Japan's law and what are the necessary qualifications to be an electrician there. If you want to be a hardware engineer being an electrician is already half way there.

>>34363235
>You wouldn't, you would be developing a very good skill (electrician), and in the future you can go and further your studies in Japan, search about Japan's law and what are the necessary qualifications to be an electrician there. If you want
Not saying you are wrong but after looking I can see that most visa's are only for white collar jobs + they have a different electrical system + I'd get paid significantly less.

>>34363262
>Not saying you are wrong but after looking I can see that most visa's are only for white collar jobs + they have a different electrical system + I'd get paid significantly less.
As I said, you can just got there to further your studies and work as an electrician to maintain yourself, people gotta understand that jobs aren't lifelong, you can always switch careers, but let me tell you, I don't blame you if you want to throw everything aside and pursue your dreams, just make sure to give your all. Don't be one of those people that just show up to classes, that's not enough to get you there anymore. Take internships, do projects, make connections.

>>34363283
Alright anon. I'm gonna think long and hard about this decision and keep studying math in the meantime. Thank you

>>34360152
Never listen to anything your family recommends. Dont chase the short term opportunities, whilst they may appear enticing out of feeling of gain, there is going to be plenty more in the future. Do what you want, go to a college.

>>34363235
>in the future you can go and further your studies in Japan, search about Japan's law and what are the necessary qualifications to be an electrician there. If you want to be a hardware engineer being an electrician is already half way there.
Such a shit advice, none of that is connected to reality. In the future it is going to be the same shit as right now, they will still require white collar for a visa, hardware engineer will still require a degree

>>34360152
i dont think anyone can take this decision for you.....

its like you say the one thing is more risky but i doubt you will be happy with the safer option if you dont like physical labor etc

i think life changing decisions are never easy ... in the end its your life. do what you want

>>34363235
This guy is correct.

Hardware engineering in the future will be done by a $2/hr guy in Bangalore or by AI. That goes with ANY job involving the making, programing or working with computers.

An electrician's job can't be done remotely. Yes, it's physical labor and not always easy. But you'll have a job for as long and you want to work.

>>34360152
My father was an electrician for years. Moving around sites can be annoying at first, but it's a good way to meet people and travel around. If you're also worried about AI it's one of the current jobs that are relatively AI proof. when helping my father out the only thing I'd need is to bring my own food (I'm celiac and we worked in remote communities, so this was the only pain in the arse I dealt with).

I'd say join the electrician union. You get experience, you can get some more certs, and worse case if you don't like it you'll have money saved for college. Though personally, with a gig such as yours I'd only go to post-secondary to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, or your co-workers are really shit.

>>34366354
Are you sure? I don't think hardware engineering will be taken over by AI. It's a lot more complicated and requires people to physically create stuff
>>34366409
I'm going to think about it but I'm leaning towards the hardware engineer

>>34366604
Being an electrician can be a good experience for it. Plus you can save up money. Trust me anon: You really really REALLY don't want engineering debt. People say engineers make a lot of money, but unless you are INCREDIBLY lucky with internships, the first bit of engineering jobs are shit. When I was in engineering school for a bit most engineers in training had to rough jobs like construction during the summer just to make ends meet (I know as I interviewed a dozen of them with my sociology course).

Also experienced electricians are paid insanely well. My father had 20 years of experience and treated him like royalty just before retirement, because he was one of the only people who knew how the older systems worked.

>>34366616
That does sound nice, but I'd be giving up on my dreams and it seems hardware might be rough early on but it gets easier over time

>>34366616
With any technical profession at the university I believe you can get a well paid internship at google anywhere you like, switzerland etc. during summer breaks or whenever, doing next to no work there

>>34366604
>Are you sure? I don't think hardware engineering will be taken over by AI. It's a lot more complicated and requires people to physically create stuff
My father was a machinist since he got out of the Army after the Korean war. After years of doing it he ended up as the guy who could take a blueprint and fabricate a prototype. No models, no guess and try (he was working with expensive metals). But towards the end, they would just feed the specs into a computer and have it produce the prototypes. If you are lucky, a hardware engineer today may make a couple of things, but they aren't giving the job to someone with a few years experience.

>>34360152
>I want to move to Japan and I know it's a long dream but I can't do that if I become an electrician.
They're advertising for foreign mechanics and carpenters, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't take sparkies too

>>34371244
Are they really? Everything I've seen so far, they aren't advertising manual labor jobs for foreigners

>>34371624
https://www.mofa.go.jp/mofaj/ca/fna/ssw/us/
Why wouldn't they be?

>>34371808
>>34360152
Also, just don't be a construction electrician
Be a maintenance guy, work with industrial motors. You'll get used to pulling wrenches and swinging hammers, it's better than monotony

>>34360152
I went through a similar thing. Im 29 now. I ended up just getting an associates degree in engineering and doing some certs to work as a technician. If you have connections to get an easy in to an industry you fucking take it every time. Just sign up for like a class or two at a community college while you work, before you know it youll have a steady baseline knowledge and you would hopefully have a nice amount in savings. My biggest regret was not enrolling into school sooner, I was waiting for my life conditions to be "just right" and all it did was fuck me out of time. Just pick a choice and do something, dont let time slip away. Also more than likely you'll realize later down the road that you're fantasizing how great japan is. I have a friend whos living there now working at a very well known hobby shop. He was from texas and left family and everyone behind to pursue his dream. Hes pretty miserable now, the reality is you will be extremely isolated in japan and you will be worked till you physically and mentally cant anymore.

>>34371959
I'm fictosexual and I'm going to live alone with my waifiu forever so I don't mind being alone. I did fine this website https://www.abcjapan.org/en/electrician-eng/ don't know if it'll be any useful to me if I do decide to become an electrician...... it is a lot of money even if I give up on Japan....I feel confused