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you can't get an apprenticeship for skilled trades without experience, and you cant get experience without a job. Theyll hire a foreigner who has "Experience" wiring electric showers and missing a few toes, so is the strat for "the trades need people" to move them a third world country to gain experience working on the favella or something? and then moving back and saying "yes i have 5 years experience too" ?

>try the union
Im playing the lottery already yes thank you
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>get a job on site as manual labour
>pre apprenticeship
>just tell the guy you dont have experience but you're not retarded
its not hard you fucking retard
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>>34363712
oh this worked, I told the guy im already a licensed journeyman but i forgot to get certified and he hired me at full pay, thanks. Gonna try this at a hospital next to see if i can start as a brain surgeon instead
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>>34363737
>i am extra retarded
ok
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>>34363776
thats DOCTOR retarded to you
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There are training organizations/trade schools that farm out apprentices to workshops and businesses, apply to them. If you don't fit in wherever they stick you, odds are you can tell them and they'll move you to a different work place.
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>>34363590
how old are you anon ? If you are less than 20 call any employer and tell them you are willing to work a minimum wage job for a year and thus you'll gain your experience
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>>34364013
these in my area essentially redirect to the union but im keeping my eyes peeled, thanks

>>34364017
the calls go something like
>hello my name is anon i have x amount of experience and x skills
not 10 years experience worth but a basic amount one would get from going to a pre app

>oh sorry anon thats very good but we arent looking right now but keep calling us back just incase
>how much experience do you have? not 3rd or 4th year already? oh sorry call us back in a while though
call us back/keep checking = we want you when you're certified already not now

been through a pre app, also have some virtual projects linked on the resume as some extra on top. Mind you I cannot get IRL experience after the pre app unless it comes through someone else, all I can do is virtual shit or one of these programs and local shops and contractors dont care about them. Experience seems to be the bottleneck. Maybe 10 years worth of pre app programs will do it lmao.
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>>34364084
Are you sure you don't sound totally autistic ?
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>>34364086
kek, if i was an omega sperg I wouldnt call anyone for anything, id have the sperg coding buff and would work in tech instead
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>>34363590
>Theyll hire a foreigner who has "Experience" wiring electric showers and missing a few toes
Because he'll do it for half as much money as you would
So no moving to Brazil for 5 years wouldn't help
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>>34364155
the same money, but i dont have years "experience" getting easily accessed jobs with no safety standards. Granted, I have all my toes and fingers but you can see what im saying

one person technically has more experience than the other from the employers perspective, and that experience cannot be easily accessed here because you can't just go and work on someone's house or start a project without certs like you could in the jungle or something. Maybe an unregulated trade but why is someone going to pick mr clean boots over the specialized company anyway?
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Basically to compete I would have to go somewhere where it doesnt take 10 years xp to be hired (third world), the third world tradie can come here and work for peanuts to send home. The person here with money already can go to the third world and live like a king. But the youth of either country gets absolutely shit canned, either because your startup job is gone for the first world person or else because your neighborhood is gentrified by some middle class foreigner bringing his money to your affordable town or city for the third world person.



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