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Or even labelled as a girl
FOR all the guys going to say ur never gonna be a girl thank you now lets move on

anyways last time iwas talking to some girl and she just said “you give off bot vibes which isnt compatible with me” annoying but i get where she comes from me
idk how to stop this
Personality or wtv since im very reactive, adhd like (not diagnosing) and unassertive
Because of my low self esteem and anxiety issues

So iguess my question is how can i be assertive and very manly chaddy like ?
I tried stuff but i seem to regress to old habits and i feel comfy being like that
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Its just annoying when people have personalities and you shit on them for being comfortable in their own skin

Imean some people are just okay with being “top” and assertive and so on

Anyways im trying to fix myself to atleast appeal to more people cause no one (or most people dont) likes unassertive wuss
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Last thing promise cause im about to fall for schizo posting trap

But some people are just easily ragebaited and naturally lolcows or wtv

For examplee
Like which troll wont make fun of someone who has has two posts replying to himself on his own thread
How can i stop being like that
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>>34371114
Assertiveness training courses are a thing - or at least they used to be. Maybe you should try and find one?
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>>34371149
Will look it up on youtube thanks
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>>34371114
>I tried stuff but i seem to regress to old habits and i feel comfy being like that
Changing something you're comfortable with because others want it is ironically very submissive. Make others change for you, not the other way around.
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>>34371168
Oh wait wtf you are right
Even the changing myself into being a “top” or nonchalant or wtv is very submissive in itself and very subservient to say the least

Ur a very smart one anon
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>>34371114
>Personality or wtv since im very reactive, adhd like (not diagnosing) and unassertive
>Because of my low self esteem and anxiety issues
that explains why people call you a sub
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>>34371252
Fuck off
But seriously speaking idk its confusing now to me
I just really hate being “submissive” in general or very emotional to say the least
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>>34371262
Yeah smarty pants
Im aware but cant change it

I also try to incite arguments for no apparent reason beside loving clashing
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Sorry if i was rude I apologize
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>>34371274
>>34371277
>>34371279
you don't need to be rude, but I can see you care a lot of what other people think about you, that makes you a very anxious and people pleasing person.

One thing you need to know is that not everyone will like you, and that's fine, you just need to find people that will like you, see that as a filter. But for that, you need to show how you really are, and for that you need to be assertive, show what you like etc.

Now, for your low selfsteem, you need to know why you have that and work on that, if it's a purelly made up thing, just acknowledge that it's false.

It will need a lot of self-knowledge, but that's part of the journey.
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>>34371340
having low self steem and being anxious =/= being submissive
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>>34371310
>Why did you say "fuck off"?
idk i wanted to bother u mainly i am sorry
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>>34371440
>I find it really boring to see all the words written that really don't go anywhere and aren't even reflective of who I actually am.
AHAHA yesss ikrrrrrrr but when i do this i think people label me as creepy, annoying weird which is true to some extent
so i have to really force myself to actually be normal and coherent and mask these weird reactions, and emotions and be calmer other wise the other person like u or wtv would get overwhelmed or really icked

the problem is i am not very direct nor consistent so i usually test personalities online and irl and dont stick to a single one

sorry for tedtalk but that part at the end really "resonated" with me

>who I actually am
can you also tell me what u meant by if u have time
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meant by this*

>>34371360
>having low self steem and being anxious ≠ being submissive
this is so true but i dont think anyone disagreed nor implied that submissive = low self esteem and unassertive

but submissive is know by those two things cause its what "normalfags" would think
submissive anons have respect for themselves they just enjoy that in bed or in a circumstantial situation i would guess

the other submissve term that is overly used is just coping and "accepting" humiliation and being thrown around and labeling it as Sub is just people who dont have enough confidence to say other wise and put a stop to what they hate
which is me
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>>34371114
Women like what people deem rape and power. Youre better off finding someone that will pet you, cuddle and fuck your toy ass.
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>>34371340
>Just naturally be you
I try but i suck at this not to mention i cant commit to "being myself"
since i am very shy, insecure, self doubting i back pedal into being subservient and trying to guess what the other person would like that i diluted my personality

i dont think im submissive for what its worth but I didn't express myself well and I used the wrong term (submissive). The truth is, I just lack self confidence, and it shows it gives off the wrong impression and an illusion of being a "bottom". That's why the relationships I get into never feel right nor healthy or compatible. If I were more confident and in a better place, I could just be myself. My true nature would shine through, and I’d have honest relationships where my personality (hopefully dom or wtv) and actions (being confident enough) are actually aligned
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>>34371477
>pet
ahhh yess
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Okay thanks everyone but now i reached a census after talking and realized.

>If anyone wanna bother hearing my ass tedtalk
I figured out that i do actions which are I act as Not confident, Shy.
Reasonable ofc (Because i have low self esteem from being bullied and growing up in a toxic environment).

Those "actions" DOES NOT mean that my personality is a submissive boytoy
It's just an illusion per se.

So the people who are EVADING boytoys see the illusion and get dazzled by my actions (not confident, shy, unassertive) and leave me alone and stay the fuck away.

Wow self aware moment.
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you are fucking gay bro. Only women get off on romance. As a man its a boner killer. My idea sex experience would be for the woman to just do whatever I say and shut the fuck up
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>>34371587
>idea
i-ideal* :D
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>>34371149
I have tried one of these once, the next day I was accused of sexual harassment. It was the worst decision of my life to trust what a female had to say about how to treat females
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>>34371460
You are 47 or Colton?
I really do not vibe with anything you wrote.
I just can't relate to that
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I'm very confident in real life. All it takes is direct communication. Unfortunately there's a lot of fog here and bullshit that has nothing to do with me. I'm chilling outside of it having a good time. You should figure your shit out
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>>34371611
are you nta? or the same guy i was talking to im confused
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Oh okay good luck
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>>34371114
LMAO
did you make this post as an elaborate joke?
“Bot” is currently a slang term with young women. Basically the same thing as calling someone an “NPC”. She’s calling you boring and you completely misunderstood her.
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>>34372158
Not at all, she just said it casually. I think she was maybe two years younger or older than me I don’t really remember. Anyway, that’s what she meant. She was just being annoying and trying to be funny by making fun of me, and she even called me emotional and a cry baby and i overreacted and told her to khs
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Why did that guy go
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>>34371114
>last time iwas talking to some girl and she just said “you give off bot vibes which isnt compatible with me”
that girl is a retard
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>>34371114
>Or even labelled as a girl
You probably look like a cut of fuckable meat, are you?
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>>34371114
Who is saying this, where, and what defines "bot vibes"?
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>>34372634
just overly erratic and very unassertive and dismissive which doesnt actually mean "bottom" or submissive but its a symptom of being very shy and not confident at all
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>>34372283
she was right (to some extent) i get that stupid comment alot
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>>34371114
Why the fuck would you ask us? We don't know you
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>>34372222
Checked
Whatever you do, go to the gym. It won't ungay you but it will make you feel comfortable with being a homo



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