Do you think its wasted effort to use online dating? I am not looking for anything casual and I am a guy. 30 years old. Online dating has never worked well for me. I get maybe 1-2 matches every 6 months. I get one date maybe 1 time every 5-6 years. I have been on okcupid for nearly 14 years. Had maybe 2 dates. I have been on hinge for maybe 6 years? Same poor luck. I definitely leave my options open and never rule out real life but finding women to date in real life is disheartening also. I have seen articles and what not(could be rage bait) talking about how women don't prefer men to flirt or talk with them in hobby situations. So like run clubs or climbing clubs or whatever. So I just have no idea what methods I can even try to use. I have asked my friends to set me up but my friends are kind of ass at that. I tell them I prefer not to date single mothers or women who smoke cigs and they tell me they have no other options for me. Just not sure what my options are. What should I do? I don't think I am a bad guy. My friends tell me I am just chronically "under marketed" basically, nobody knows I exist and I have really basic pictures I guess.
>>34372571>Do you think its wasted effort to use online dating? I am not looking for anything casual and I am a guyyes it's a waste of time, at besti wish i knew a good alternative to offer but it depends on your own life & opportunities
>>34372571the validity of the numbers you're giving are dubious but i'll still play along. give us a few examples of your 'dates' and how they played out. obviously you're doing something wrong.
>>34372571If you can put a hook or lay a trap without much energy then it might be worth a shot, strategically speaking. It's difficult to deal with, psychologically speaking.
remember, a relationship comes with some responsibilities, but it's ultimately supposed to ENHANCE your lifeif you feel like you're working in the coal mines or doing marketing to "achieve" a relationship, you'll most likely end up in some resentful shit situation anywayrelationship should largely take care of itself if you're living properly (whatever that means)
Its good for sex and building some momentum if you get no bitches. But you cannot respect or date a girl from a dating app. If she signs up for a dating app she is a whore. She is putting herself on the meat market and you can assume she has had her pussy reamed by mulltiple chads and jamals.
Oh I am definitely doing something wrong. The farthest I ever made it with a woman was a woman from okcupid actually. We went on 4-5 dates I think maybe 3 years ago. She kissed me on the second date(I wasn't the one to initiate it). I was surprised when she kissed me because I thought most people kiss on the third date. I have basically no concept of progressing dates so I am awful at making moves. She stopped dating me by the 5th date. She let me off easy and basically said she had gotten too busy with work to date. Which is fine. I doubt thats the reason but its fine. My suspicion is that she got bored with me. It was the first kiss of my life and I felt great after. Haven't had another kiss since. As for other dates, I have had 1-2 over the years and one was a mess. She turned out to be a single mother which really turned me off. Wasn't listed in her profile. I really did like her though but one of my main deal breakers is single mother. I think the only circumstance where I may waive that is if the kids father is dead. As for the other date, she was nice but she was very VERY church oriented. Jewish also. I am not familar with Jewish religion or culture and I was weirded out about it. She did say she was religious in her profile but didn't really specify how much.
>>34372644 this was in response to >>34372585
>>34372581>>34372588this is all you need to know
I have incredible success with online dating that I would never have in real life due to being a sperg. But I’ve looksmaxxed and lifemaxxed so my profile kicks ass. When I turn on my hinge I get about one girl liking me a day.
>>34372644>I am awful at making moves. She stopped dating me by the 5th date. She let me off easy and basically said she had gotten too busy with work to date.you're a pussy basically. and I'm not saying this to clown on you, just pointing it out. she saw you doing nothing but expecting everything to be handed to you on a silver platter and got hella turned off. but you seem to realize this already. have you taken this knowledge and applied it to better yourself?>She turned out to be a single mother which really turned me offbullet dodged. don't even think twice about this one.any other context on the jewish girl date? i really hope you didnt go full aspergers reddit atheist on her.
>>34372725He needs a girl who understands he has no experience and is okay with it. It’s doubtful he’s just going to pretend to be a chad with his mouth and it actually works. They exist but she’s going to have to like him enough to teach him.
>>34372725>any other context on the jewish girl date? i really hope you didnt go full aspergers reddit atheist on her.I am actually not an atheist myself. I am just one of those people that is Christian but doesn't go to church. I find church going to be very extreme to me for some reason. Had nothing to do with her being jewish really. I would have felt the same about a Islamic woman.>>34372725>you're a pussy basically. and I'm not saying this to clown on you, just pointing it out. she saw you doing nothing but expecting everything to be handed to you on a silver platter and got hella turned off. but you seem to realize this already. have you taken this knowledge and applied it to better yourself?I don't think I am a pussy. I think I am a slow burner though. I am basically never in a rush for anything and sex is one of those things. Never had sex and I do want to have it but I am not fiending to do it I guess. I know I definitely want to have it but not at the cost of having to rush it. I strongly prefer to go on many dates rather than just try and pressure a woman into having sex with me on the second date or something. I just don't care as much for some reason. Whereas some of my friends are like "If she doesn't put out on second date, dump her." I have no idea how people even move that fast.
online dating is a waste of time. you have to be in a social circle, take a class, interest group, hang out at the same place, etc. just ignore everything except yourself and improving yourself, then one day you'll be living your life and a beautiful woman will roll up alongside you, you'll be shocked , and then remember this comment. she's the one.
>>34372749>I strongly prefer to go on many dates rather than just try and pressure a woman into having sex with me on the second date or something.as much as i hate parroting manosphere talking points this is absolutely beta male behavior. you were expecting to be babysat into a relationship, but this kind of thing is a reciprocal action. she initiated the kiss on the second date which shows you the pace she was looking for. you stepped up to the plate, got cold feet, and struck out. she obviously liked you and wanted more, but being 5 dates in with no progress is what happens with 60 yr old divorcees, not young people. you should be dating cougars if that's what you want. your friends are not entirely wrong.
Are you White?
>>34372887That's literally the hardest possible way to get a girl. It's an option but no need for that shit.
>>34372908So how would I convey to a woman that I want to go at a slower pace? I can assure you that I would not be ready to have sex within 3 dates. >>34372910no. black.
>>34373133> no. black.Knew it. Not to be that guy but this is a significant obstacle - possibly your largest one. Most people here won’t understand this. I suggest looksmaxxing.
>>34373133Are you dating outside your race, and how are you meeting them. How are you interacting via text before a date is set up. Hate to say it but some women, especially non black woman might be expecting something out of you simply because you are black and thry are leaving once thry realize you cant offer it to them.
Online is just a medium and distance is nothing to get across. At most in country is a couple hour plane ride and if you get along online and then experiencing everything in person. That's the best is then having it all after you have spent so much time falling in love with them over the distance.If you feel love that strongly over distance online then in person with that person is exponential levels of love.
