I am aware that it is not my job to fix his relationship or to even really get involved, but at this point something needs to be done, especially because 3 of us share a rental property. I can get into specifics if specifics are desired, however I'll just summarize as best as I can. I tried to type this out but I'll just use greentext instead. > Her behavior has resulted in my close friend becoming a near constant recluse > She will visit and expect us to accommodate her, sometimes for weeks at a time, completely unexpectedly or without enough warning> She refuses to take care of herself in numerous ways> She is incredibly inflexible when it comes to her moving to him or vice versa> Due to the fact that she comes from a rather wealthy family, she has a diluted understanding of her boyfriends financial situation> They have an open relationship which periodically causes problems (go figure) > She has actively caused problems between members of our extended friend group I could probably go on, and I can go into specifics if you guys want. I just dont know how to explain to him that this shit isnt healthy. On the surface she looks like an extremely good individual, but her actions seem to lead to questionable conclusions. At this point I think my friend is only with her for her looks.
Talk to him?
>>34373216How do you think that would go. He's madly in love with this woman, and this woman claims to be in love and then behaves as if his own interests dont matter. I have tried to have conversations with him, but I cant just say "you should break up with your girlfriend".
>>34373226Would you want them to tell you if you were in their position
>>34373213that's a rough position to be inbest thing you can do is usually try to hold onto the friendship, remind him indirectly what a relationship is supposed to be like, do things together, talk to him, make sure he trusts you, etcit's kinda like having a friend with a drug habit
>>34373245if i was in his state of mind i probably wouldnt, thats the issue i'm trying to explain. I dont think he wants to know and i dont know if he could handle knowing. He landed a girl who unironically considered modeling (she looks like a 1:1 clone of my original picrel except with light brown hair), comes from a rich ass family, is willing to put out for him any time he wants no questions asked, and is incredibly intelligent to boot (she is significantly more educated than my friend). This has blinded him to the fact that every other aspect of his life is going to shit, either directly because of her or indirectly. He cant move to live with her because of his job, and she can move to live with us but refuses to do so and then complains (and then crashes with us for extended periods of time). Her simply moving would solve 75% of the problems she causes.
>>34373245>>34373266like i said >>34373263there's not a lot you can do, it's like having a friend with a drug habitbut chances are he'll be alright
>>34373213>How do IYou don't. Period. It's not your relationship.(a) You aren't seeing the full picture, only the external aspects of the relationship(b) You don't value her virtues and vices the same way he does. Due to (a) you don't even see all of her virtues and vices (ditto for him, you don't really know what he's like in that relationship).(c) If he wants your opinion he's free to ask for it. But he hasn't, probably due to (b).
>>34373213unfortunately there is really nothing you can do. you can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved. i had a similar situation where my friend was in a extremely toxic relationship where he was being used and neglected by his girlfriend who would fuck other guys infront of him. it got so bad that i wanted to prove to him that he was a cuck, so i made a fake account and started talking to his girlfriend, which in turn she literally started neglecting him to talk to me. try your best to help your friend during this, and if worse comes to worse, since it seems like it's impacting your friendgroup, you honestly might have to cut him off. that's what me and my friends eventually did when he wouldn't budge, and he is still in that shitty relationship 3 years later.
>>34373281His girlfriend has inserted herself into our friend dynamic too far for me to be able to really follow your advice. She has actively had conversations with me about being sexually interested in members of our friend group including myself. While I wouldn't normally be opposed to this (I will admit I am a degenerate) there were confounding factors which resulted in none of that happening... yet... She also tried to fuck one of the girlfriends of one of the guys in the group. This is turning into a bad sex drama tv show. >>34373501They are a bit weird. Both him and his gf seem to have some kind of cuck fetish as they BOTH get off to the idea of watching/knowing the other is getting fucked by someone else. She is also an exhibitionist, and always tries to either wear the most revealing or sexually provocative clothing as possible, especially when she's around the select few other women in the friend group. I am aware how fucking whack this situation is. It just needs to stop. If she could get rid of a few bad behaviors, everything would be chill, as like i mentioned earlier, i dont personally have an issue with the degen behavior, its mostly the fact that she's impacting his out of bedroom life. I am going to refrain from posting for awhile as it seems as if my IP range is on the naughty list and I hate constantly verifying by email.
>>34373583>Both him and his gf seem to have some kind of cuck fetishGood. You've figured out why he's sticking with her. The things you perceive as flaws, he perceives as virtues.Now let them live their lives as they see fit.>but muh friend groupIf you can't bring yourself to be a part of it because of their kink affecting the group, then leave this friend group and go find different friends. Because it sounds like at least a chunk of your friend group is into that form of degeneracy.
>>34373213>How do I help my closest friend realize he's in an extremely toxic relationship?You don't, or he understand this himself or not, let him bear the consequences of his actions
>>34373213>They have an open relationship Brother, he cannot be helped.
