I am a Christian man and i admit, i am a violent thinking guy, there has been so many people who have wronged me brutally over the years and lately people have been getting mad at me, judging me, for wanting those people dead, or at least for them to face God's Righteous Wrath.I come here wanting to say, is that a bad thing or are my feelings normal?
>>34376002God wanted Jesus dead. Must be alright.
>>34376134He also wants you dead.
Kill everyone and everything.
spite poisons the vessel it's in
Why are you asking here? You're a Christian, are you not? The Bible is clear about forgiveness. Don't try to run away from the truth, but seek to understand it instead. To be fair, I sympathize with you. Forgiveness is probably the hardest virtue to attain to. But be strong; you got this.
>>34376930Feels good
>>34376002They are normal feelings but get used to it and the sooner you accept that you cant fix retardation the better. One of the most frustrating things about becoming an adult is seeing others, often older than you, act more immature than you and haven't faced the music. Some of these people will be stuck in your lofe permanently and you will be forced to deal with them whether you want to or not. My brother in law is a literal communist (not a larp) and is super preachy about it. Its annoying and I dont want thay shit around my kids but he's still my brother. All I can do is be there for him, pray for him and hopefully he will come around. Talking to him doesnt help he's too far gone so thats where Im at. My advice is to work on yourself and hopefully others around you will admire you and through osmosis they will change as they will see their life isnt taking them in the directions you will have at thay point. Or they will have no introspection and be forever stuck in arrested development. Sucks but oh well, never forget even Jesus faced retards and his advice was to dust off your sandles, ignore the haters and move on. They are not willing to hear your message and so aren't worth banging your head in the wall to change them even if it will be helpful to them
>>34376002>or wanting those people dead, or at least for them to face God's Righteous Wrath.I'm not a Christian, but your feelings are normal.A lot of injustices are things we never get satisfactory endings to. Wishing for their life(s) to be ruined is our way of giving ourselves that: "If that person suffers just as much as what they put me through, things will be even."
>>34376002your feelings? normal. but also unhelpful in any way.And whatever your understanding of God is, the Christian wisdom on this is that only God is who/what metes out wrath justifiably, principally because the likelyhood of any of us being able to cast the first stone so to speak while not being deserving of a stoning ourselves in someone else's eyes is basically zero. But a lesser realised truth in my opinion is that the likelyhood of our being able to dispense such violence without a corrupted heart is also basically zero.
>>34376930Oh please, that's only because of laws. Frontier justice begs to differ. If someone crossed you, you put a bullet in their head and leave them in a ditch for vultures. The only thing you had to worry about was someone seeking revenge and that could take years. Trust me, I definitely would of committed vehicular manslaughter many times if the law was not a thing
>>34376002As a brother in Christ, if you are wanting people dead, and wanting them to face God’s wrath, I’m thinking that’s a heart issue. I can’t understand the whole situation, and there’s a lot of factors I don’t know about- like the context of why you feel that way, what you said, what they said, etc. Obviously I’m not you, I don’t know you nor them. But regardless, I think you should go back to and read-Matthew 5:43-48 ESVLove Your Enemies43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers,[a] what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.————-I don’t condemn you, because we all have our struggles, God knows I do; but spend time with Him in His word. It’s hard at times, and I understand being angry, but we’ve gotta try to forgive others as God forgives us. Ephesians 4:32 ESV32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.————God bless you, friend.
>>34376002That level of ressentiment is par for the course for Christians. It's why concepts such as "God's wrath" and "eternal damnation" came about in the first place. Let go of revenge, it is weakness. Your faith teaches you to forgive, anyway.
>>34377329>I think your faith is beneath me>Here let me tell you what your faith is aboutIntellectual fraud. No wonder why you idolise a madman.
>>34377415This is just a stupid, reactionary and pigheaded response.
>>34376470Right. Must be alright.
>>34376931I thank you for your sympathy and kind words.I ask here because my life is in a state of turmoil now and i am having trouble comprehending what my life is.>>34377040>>34377089I also thank you guys for your kind words and advice.>>34377415Now now, lets not be like that, he's trying to help.>>34377329And i appreciate it.
>>34377316>I can’t understand the whole situationI'll go more deep into it.I am 26 years old, 27 in 8 more days, and my entire life i have had OCD and PTSD due to a traumatic birth that almost killed me.I could have been alright but because i wasn't protect as a kid, i was abused throughout my entire childhood by the people who were supposed to protect me, the abuse was plenty, physical, mental emotional, sexual etx, and now that i am an adult i am a mess.Due to all of this PTSD by all that abuse my OCD is in a constant state of insanity, i now have a disgust for breath, mouths and private parts and i have to clean everything that comes in contact with those things and what comes out of them, even my own.I used to be a smart kids with a bright future but now i am a sad man with a damaged mind, body and soul and i am desperate to know how to break free and why is it that everyone who hurt me has a better life, why is it that i'm the one in constant torment over what others have done to me?>spend time with Him in His wordI've been trying, last year, for over six months, throughout June to December i was doing good. But in January, i think the 6th, i feel into a temptation and watched a show i wasn't supposed to and i think everything went downhill from there and now i am having trouble being with God again as i fall into more temptations.>God bless you, friend.Thank you. God Bless you too friend. I hope to see you all in God's Kingdom.
>>34376002OP, please help me. Exactly where in the bible does Jesus say "Respond with violence to those who have wronged you "? I must have missed it.
>>34376470God is dead.
>>34378562I fee like you're mocking me, am i correct?
>>34377903I am >>34377040 went in to check on you.That shit sucks and I wont pretend to have faced anything like that. However, here's what I will say. You and I are around the same age. My HS wrestling coach was a Marine who served in Iraq during the invasion. He clearly had PTSD but was pretty good at hiding it. It was kinda surreal though since he would occasionally talk about his service and there was one story I recall where him and a friend were guarding a checkpoint and a suicide bomber went off and of course there were body parts everywhere. Him and his friend were ordered to put limbs, organs and body parts into trash bags to clean off the street. He mentioned how him and his friend were laughing as they did it. Not because it was funny but when you are forced to do something that traumatic your brain literally doesnt know how to react and so doesnt react appropriately. Anyway I bring him up because he was one of the wisest guys I knew growing up. He would have us end our practice by praying (Im from Texas and yes it was Public school) and he would often give us all advice. One piece of advice that stuck with me is he said God will never give you something you cant handle. So if your world is going to shit its because God thinks your badass and knows you can handle it.You can handle it. Not to say its easy, and life is a bitch in that we dont get to pick the crosses we bear most of the time. As I said before, you have the opportunity to improve your life and be an inspiration to others. You aren't the only one who unfortunately had the very people who's so called parents fucked up their life when they should have been loving you. Those people need a white pill just as much as you. Show those people it is possible to rise out of that place of darkness if you trust in God. Thats what it is to Evangelize
>>34376470He wants to kill us all.
>>34376002You should confess your sins to your priest or pastor. Forgive themRead the Bible passages on hating and forgivenessIn a journal make a list of why you want that person dead.
>>34377903First and foremost I just want to say that I’m so sorry that all these things happened to you. I couldn’t begin to imagine all you went through. I thank God for not having to go through that, and it’s terrible that situations like that exist in this world. Unfortunately that’s due to the fallen state of this world that sin has inflicted Ona humanity. What’s interesting is I have OCD as well. So on that front I do understand what an awful mess that can be, and I feel for you on that one.>I've been trying, last year, for over six months, throughout June to December i was doing good. But in January, i think the 6th, i feel into a temptation and watched a show i wasn't supposed to and i think everything went downhill from there and now i am having trouble being with God again as i fall into more temptations.I feel ya. I think that’s a common thing when we fall into temptation. I’ve been struggling the past couple of days with falling into temptation. Sin separates us from God, and basically in our shame and our guilt it tends to keep us from coming to God. The devil loves to tempt, downplay the sin, then afterwards magnify it. So like for example, he’s like->hey this would feel good. It’s not THAT badWe then commit sin and afterwards >wow, YOU did that. You’re awful, that’s horrible, God can’t forgive you, etcThat’s his tactics. That’s what he does. But God is always waiting for us to come to Him with repentance and confess our sins to Him. Now as for forgiveness, I’m gonna be completely honest with you. I do believe you should strive to forgive even in your case. Now forgiveness does not mean subjecting yourself to being around abusers. I think forgiveness means letting go of what someone has done to you, and praying for them even if it’s from afar essentially. So like a perfect example of this is as Jesus was being crucified, he says-
>>34377903(Continuing) >>34378870-“Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”Luke 23:3434And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”[b] And they cast lots to divide his garments.——-So even as Jesus was being CRUCIFIED he still had the capacity to ask the God the Father to forgive them. That is on a whole other level. By the way, I had to make this 2 parts cause I ran out of room. But if you’d like to ask me anymore questions, I’d be happy to answer to the best of my ability.>Thank you. God Bless you too friend. I hope to see you all in God's Kingdom.Thank you, man!! Me too! Like I said I struggle. I struggle all the time in fact. And I hope to make it so I can be with Jesus forever in eternity. I hope to see you and all my other friends as well, man.
>>34376002God flooded the earth to kill evil people so if he judges you, that’s double standards
>>34377093Sorry i forgot to reply to you.I thank you for your kind words and advice as well.>>34377040>One of the most frustrating things about becoming an adult is seeing others, often older than you, act more immature than you and haven't faced the musicI have put more thought into this, and yeah, you're right.Everywhere i go i see people making fools of themselves only for the public to follow them anyways.There's a whole discussion here but to keep things short, all of these online influencers are bad influences on people, especially kids, and now we have teens acting out in terrible ways because the internet made them believe that such behavior is OK.For example, earlier this month i witnessed a fist fight break out between two teenagers in front of a church. Things were not like this years ago.And now crime in my area has increased and the youth more disrespectful.>>34378712That story about your coach made me cry God Bless him and God Bless you sir for telling me this.And thank you for the advice, i'll try my best.>You aren't the only one who unfortunately had the very people who's so called parents fucked up their life when they should have been loving youOne thing i should make clear is that yeah, you're right, but it was more than my parents sadly.And although my mom has gotten better and has apologized many times, my dad on the other hand is going crazy himself and i hope and i pray that he will one day come to understand all the pain i went through.>>34378804That is also something i should do. I am going to church this Sunday so i should do that then.>>34378901According to Revelations He's going to do it again but much worse.
>>34378870>First and foremost I just want to say that I’m so sorry that all these things happened to you.I want to start off by saying that i thank and appreciate this.>Unfortunately that’s due to the fallen state of this world that sin has inflicted Ona humanity.So true.>What’s interesting is I have OCD as well. So on that front I do understand what an awful mess that can be, and I feel for you on that one.I appreciate the empathy.>That’s his tactics.That's exactly what happens to me and i hate it every time.>But God is always waiting for us to come to Him with repentance and confess our sins to Him. As i always do when i fall into sin and temptation, but there are times when i wonder if doing it again and again and again gets tiring for Him.>But if you’d like to ask me anymore questions, I’d be happy to answer to the best of my ability.Thanks.Exactly how much does not forgiving keep people away from God? I ask because despite all this i know that God is both hearing and answering my prayers, i have had positive things happen to me lately that i can only describe as a work of God, so i wonder, exactly how much does it effect the relationship with God and if i never forgive will it doom me to not be able to make it to His Kingdom?Also, Jesus once said that those who make kids stray away from Him are better having their necks tied to rocks and thrown into the ocean, how literal should that be seen as?>Thank you, man!! Me too! Like I said I struggle. I struggle all the time in fact. And I hope to make it so I can be with Jesus forever in eternity. I hope to see you and all my other friends as well, man.Good luck, i believe in you.
>>34376002Why are Christians so unhinged?Peel away the thin veneer of fake niceties and its always a super spiteful dude with low impulse control/inner master that wants to bash someone's head in with a rock.
>>34379678If all you're going to do is be judgmental and spiteful against others then i suggest not coming to /adv/ because this board is not for this.
>>34379695Yk I'm right tho right?
>>34378887More questions.I'm not going to go too deep into it but i had a sexual childhood. Is the reason why God allowed me to go through such things because i am meant to fight against that stuff?Has my attempts at fighting against that stuff, along with other sins such as bullying, a good thing in God's eyes or am i doing too much?Can God heal all the damage done to my body?I'll go even further with that question and ask if He's able to give me an entirely new body?I know God can reverse time so is He able to do that for other people as well?My dog tends to act very aggressive around me and my dad, can God be able to help my dog with whatever it is that's bothering her?And last question i can think of for now. I have been watching an online animatino series that i was lead to seemingly by God, but it's very crude and even though i don't like the more sinful parts of it it's still one of the most hilarious things i have ever seen and has helped me in these depressive times. Is it a bad thing that i am into that kind of stuff and is it OK to gain joy from it?
>>34379700All you did was make an accusation based on being judgmental instead of actually trying to help someone on a board meant for helping people.
>>34376002>I come here wanting to say, is that a bad thing or are my feelings normal?You should read the "Parable of the Unforgiving Servant"Matthew 18:21-35Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.“Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold was brought to him. Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.“At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.“But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins. He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.“His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’“But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.“Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.“This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
>>34379656>I want to start off by saying that i thank and appreciate this.I got you, man. It’s no problem. <3>That's exactly what happens to me and i hate it every time.Same, brother. Unfortunately it happens to all of us, so you can be assured you’re not the only one who struggles with that.>but there are times when i wonder if doing it again and again and again gets tiring for Him.Again, that’s Satan lying to you. 1 John 1:9 KJV9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.———Always remember that verse when the devil tells you God’s done with you. It’s a very common thing for the devil to tell us like for example “oh you’ve sinned too much.” Or “God’s mad at you”, or “You’ve gone too far.”God knows we are dust, and———-Psalm 103:11-1811 For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him;12 as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us.13 As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him;14 for he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust.15 The life of mortals is like grass, they flourish like a flower of the field;16 the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more.17 But from everlasting to everlasting the Lord’s love is with those who fear him, and his righteousness with their children’s children—18 with those who keep his covenant and remember to obey his precepts.———->Exactly how much does not forgiving keep people away from God?Well, anon here already posted this part >>34380065and I do believe like I said that we should strive to forgive as Jesus instructed us.How much that would impact your relationship with God- I couldn’t say. I personally have the belief that- kind of circling back to Psalm 103-
>>34380065Sadly, if this is the case, then i am never going to be able to make it to God's Kingdom and i fault them for it.Not only that but i have never done what they have done to me and they never begged me for anything.This is one of the scriptures i think of, then know that it's not 100% accurate given how God has been treating me so far.I am still a devoted follower of Christ, but if God wants me to forgive, then i should have been protected better, that or He should give me a new body or reverse time so that none of that ever happens. If God sends me to Gehenna for even saying this, then so be it.
(Continuing >>34380154)- I personally think like Psalm 103, God knows we are but dust and mercy on us in our struggles. But like I said, I absolutely do believe we should strive to forgive and have mercy on those who has sinned against us just as Christ forgives us.Ephesians 4:32 NIV32Be kind and compassionate to one another,forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.————I do believe as well that even though you’re struggling, I don’t believe God would just ignore you, and I know he won’t abandon you.Hebrews 13:5 NIV 5Keep your lives free from the love of moneyand be content with what you have, because God has said,“Never will I leave you;never will I forsake you.”————>Good luck, i believe in you.Thank you again, and God bless you brother. <3
>>34379656Meant to (You) >>34380183
>>34380154>Well, anon here already posted this partHere's my response to that >>34380166Think of my words as ya will but it's the honest truth of how i feel and to sugar coat it in any way would be a lie.I'm at the point where i don't want to forgive, i want the tribulations to happen already.>>34380183Is it fine to be kind to others while still hating them for what they have done?Is it fine to hate others for what they have done while still being kind to them?
>>34380166Reading Jonah's account might be helpful. There's also a verse that says be wrathful but do not sin. Another says vengeance is God's and He will repay, or met out justice. A judge, an executioner, an interrogator, a parent... all examples of how someone can be particularly qualified to deal with someone who's done someone else wrong. Just as a parent can deliver the right kind of punishment while their child cannot, lacking both wisdom and strength in comparison to the parent, so we tend to be compared to God.You're speaking about the thoughts and feelings persisting. We can't always see where these will end, but the way to get better at most things is to keep doing (essentially practicing) the right thing. We get better at it. Sometimes we have to rebuild a good habit, but practicing putting unwanted thoughts and feelings away is definitely better than not trying and letting them occupy the mind even more.Annoying? Unbearable feeling? It can be. I don't often recommend thinking "it could be worse" as a solution. But in this case, there's something to appreciate about having the time or space to dwell on past matters. To have internet access to express and converse with others. I know someone who can barely keep her place while she looks for work, some constantly being hit by typhoons and illness, and many I don't know who are trapped in warzones constantly on alert for what present and future danger might find them. I just find that when I think about those realities others are facing, it helps me appreciate what I do have more and helps take my mind off of the negatives.
Give me a good enough reason and I'll want pretty much anyone dead cus my life is worth more than someone else's.>people who have wronged me brutallySounds like you're being sensitive. You'll still be alive if they're left alone.>>34376470We all must die. Accept it or join a cult to cope.
>>34380588Ya got no idea what i went through so don't act so prideful.
>>34380280>met out justice.It's been decades and i have yet to gain any justice or anything righteous, i have always been the one being tormented for what others have done to me.I can't help but feel lied to, by the people who tell me this stuff and by Jesus.
>>34378712>>34378870Hey, do you guys have social media? I want to keep in contact with you guys and i need more friends to help me out during these hard times, especially Christian friends.Same offer goes to anyone else willing to be a friend.
>>34376002“I am a Christian man and i admit, i am a violent thinking guy” isn’t that what you morons do?
>>34383027/adv/ is for giving and receiving advice.If you're going to use this board to attack others with anti Christian bigotry then i suggest that you leave.
>>34383067It’s a valid question to know what advice to giveIt seems to be okay for anyone else to do it, but do it to Christian dolts and you cry?
>>34376002Best real life advice would be to get some professional help, violence because someone supposedly wronged you is very emotionally immature, most grow out of that in early high school, if not before. Thinking that those people deserve gods wrath is messed up too, god isn’t your personal hitman.Definitely seek professional help, talk to adults that have grown and are emotionally mature, and don’t think you get special treatment because of the beliefs you chose.
>>34383481What are ya even talking about? Do what? Christian dolls?Please be more specific. It sounds like you're talking about something completely different.>>34383602Oh please don't insult me.And "supposedly"? Seriously? Read the thread, more specifically this >>34377903
>>34384648Yeah do you need some serious help from a professional
>>34384689I hope that you're at least being polite about it.Also, i am going to see someone on the 1st so i will give an update to everyone here when that happens.
>>34380065Forgive from the heart, eh? That's rather difficult. Can God just torture me now and get it over with, or erase my memories or something?
>>34385783Well God does have the power to reverse time but i doubt he'll use it to rewrite anyone's traumatic past, at least not yet.
>>34384648Dolts, not dolls, words, they help
>>34385222Good on you for taking that step, it’s needed for sure
>>34386021I misread, but i would still like to know what you're talking about.>>34386177Thank you.
