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I'm a 23 year old kissless virgin with no experience whatsoever. Never went on a date, never held hands. Never asked a single girl out. And in the last 3 years I haven't spoken to a single woman outside of family and cashiers.

I tried to cope by being volcel, acting as if I have no interest in women. But the feelings of loneliness that I had at night now creep in during the day as well.

But it feels like I'm too late. I have no idea how to talk to women. I'm generally a very quiet person that has difficulty with social interaction. Flirting is impossible for me.
And I don't even know where to meet women. Normies seem to get their girlfriends through their friends. But that isn't possible for me.
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any tips?
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>>34376300
Ayyyy 23 club
I felt the same way but then I really just started going out more because of work. If you put yourself in a situation where you have to be social all the time it helps. But remember not to just give away your solitude and try to be around people all the time or you'll end up wanting to lock yourself away.
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>>34376641
Do you have a girlfriend? If so, how did you meet her?
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>>34376300
My advice is to work through your anxiety, get more comfortable striking up a conversation. I did this by going to the bar and watching baseball games every now and then, once you get comfortable it becomes easier (not necessarily easy), most people are receptive.
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>>34376300
I'm a few years older than you, only been on two dates (one last year, one this year). You're not missing out on much.
I know a dude in his 30s who's a real chad (looksmaxxed, moneymaxxed, charismamaxxed etc.) and overall a smart guy with good character, he frequently goes to singles mixers and still gets nowhere.
Don't be too hard on yourself man. Regarding dating, shit's cooked nowadays.

Best advice I could give you is try going to different places, but don't have overly high expectations.
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>>34376773
I've had sex but I never had a stable relationship for other reasons besides my antisocial behavior. I met her at work, I fix refrigerators for Starbucks and she was a barista.
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>>34376635

like most things, you get incrementally better through repetition, preferably voluntary.
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>>34376300
>But the feelings of loneliness that I had at night now creep in during the day as well.
27 yo trucel here
just chiming in to tell you it gets MUCH MUCH MUCH worse
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>>34376300
You find women mysterious and scary. So the first step is to de-mystify them. Do what you can to get into mixed-gender groups, where the connections are not primarily about gender. Encountering women in the same ways you encounter men will make it easier to see them as individuals and not some strange Other.

Join a mixed-gender club, team, church group. Take a random evening class, Do volunteer work. Meet your neighbors and co-workers.

The more women you know as just people, the less scary they will be as women
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>>34376300
It's not worth it
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>>34376818
I know a guy who’s above average looking, and is rich business owner and been in a movie and women just ignore him and or give his info to their gay friends even though he’s not gay just to get rid of him.

I think it’s some kind of genetic thing where who you attract is already determined cause it’s rigged



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