How to tell if my gf loves me and it's not with me out of pity or convenience?
>>34377326There are limits to what ANYONE will do for anyone just out of pity, and they are usually very shallow limits.
>>34377326She doesn't love you, women are incapable of love.
>>34377589ok, where are the limits? because she knows I'm suicidal>>34377596women are capable of love, they are just incapable of loving gross retards
>>34377326The fact that modern woman can just drop you at anytime for a man that easily outclasses you, which happens every day to many men, and that she hasn't done that, is evidence enough she is at least attached to you
>>34377326Women do not love men. They love the fantasy they construct of you in their head and the feelings you give her which are created by uncertainty. When you start being too real and too available, the fantasy collapses and they lose their feelings and start craving other men who don't care about her at all.
>>34377981PRECISELY this same thing can be said about men. In fact, it is practically the dictionary definition of romantic love.
>>34378554Not really. Men have no desire for a woman to be out of reach or to breadcrumb him, they just give up on her and find someone else. Women claim to be the same way, but they never give up on men who breadcrumb them.
>>34377326You cannot know it. Just learn to trust.>>34377800>im suicidalFocus on not being suicidal. If she is with you out of pity it's her choice. Tell her "I really appreciate you being there for me and really value you. I don't want to be a burden so while you mean the world to me if you leave me I promise not to kys". Then if she is still with you it's her decision and you're not responsible for it.
>>34377981Bro this is absolutely true but it's for both sides. You are describing an innate human mechanism of desire and how desire collapses lol. Lacan says that love is giving something you don't have to someone who doesn't want it. In another words love is both of your shared fantasy of what the other person should be in your world and trying to make that impossibility stick together and work. Tired of weak men bro.
>>34378635>they just give up on her and find someone elseThis is not true and the core reason of why the same thing can be said about men. MOST men do not have anywhere near the level of abundance as an AVERAGE women has, so men cannot easily just drop a woman and find another. Women are already out of reach for men, so men want women to be within reach. Men are already within reach for women, so women want men to be out of reach. Both men and women want what they don’t have, and they can’t want something they already have.So yes men and women are different, but men’s and women’s behaviors would literally switch if it was men that had more abundance than women.
>>34379098>tell the love of your life to leave you bro, that will make you feel better bro
>>34377326I honestly think if someone truly loved, they’d be Christ himself. Love is a death sentence and expecting that from a person isn’t reasonable. Relationships are built on transaction, not love, so enjoy the exchange while you’re alive.
>>34379412>>34379531Let me ask you this. Have you ever had a dog? Did you love your dog less because they were there 24/7? No. A man can have unconditional love for a woman, but a woman cannot have the same for a man.Men date down, and they still break up less often than women do.
>>34379909Generally speaking, a dog yields much higher return on investment (time, money, energy, etc) than a woman does.Men date down not because they are more loving, but because that’s what they can get.Women date up not because they’re less loving, but because that’s what they can get.If you got 10 job offers, wouldn’t you take the best one? And if you got only 1 job offer, wouldn’t take it and be on your best behavior not to get fired? Men break up less often because the woman is way more valuable to them not because they’re more loving but because women are more scarce to them.
>>34379937>Men date down not because they are more loving, but because that’s what they can get.>Women date up not because they’re less loving, but because that’s what they can get.No, there is an asymmetry because women who aren't attractive enough to date up would rather stay single rather than dating down. Men who are attractive enough to get a hot woman still date less attractive women because those women are less fucked up and more stable for long term relationships. Women won't date down even if it guarantees a more stable relationship than a man who is above them and mistreats them.>If you got 10 job offers, wouldn’t you take the best one? Sometimes the best job is the one with the least stress, even if it means marginally less pay.