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>be my aunt
>1990s
>16 years old
>her best friend tells her he's in love with her
>she turns him down
>he commits suicide
>his father finds his corpse in the bedroom
>already had heart problems
>has a heart attack and dies
>the mom commits suicide a few months later
My aunt is still haunted by what happened back then. How do I convince her that it's not her fault? It's time to let this trauma go.
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>>34397136
Unless she was gratuitously cruel in her rejection ("Marry you? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ") she is not in any way responsible.
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>>34397206
Not exactly. And its not that easy either. The dude who killed himself couldnt get over the rejection, so he had other problems in the background that weakened his judgement which lead to his suicide. The death of his father is the fault of the dude. And the mother died because she had no one left to live for. His aunt did not owe anything to anyone so we could say that the whole outcome is on the dude himself whose decision also affected OP s aunt.
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>>34397136
I wish i could kill people this easily. Your Aunt is a living shinigami.
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>>34397136
It is her fault, the fuck she say no for. I bet that all blamed her and they should have. Im into men so im not an incel, just genuinely fucking wondering why it wouldn't be her fault
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>>34397206
she's not responsible for him foiding out kek, fault implies she could've foreseen it
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>>34397136
Let us start with the assumption that suicide is not the typical resoponse to being rejected. That means that her friend's response was not typical and therefore not predictable.

We cannot lead our lives in the fear of some troubled individual having an unpredictably excessive response to what we do. Put another way, we can assume that someone we reject will be unhappy and therefore we have an obligation to try to not make the rejection unnecessarily cruel. We cannot assume they'll kill themselves, and we therefore have no responsibility if they do.

The rejected lover has to bear some responsibility for his choice of response.
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>How do I convince her that it's not her fault? It's time to let this trauma go.
Just like it's not her fault, it's not something you're equipped to help convince her about. Best you can do is try to get her to go to a good therapist focused on grief counseling and trauma, because not only is this so far beyond the average person's pay grade to help someone work through, trying to be that person for your aunt will severely damage your own mental health and relationship with her. You can be there for her, but the healing has to come from her and a specialist.
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>>34397136
least emotional moid
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>>34397136
You're not going to say anything that hasn't already been said at this point. Best thing she can do is >>34397907
This may not be something she can or will ever let go of.
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>>34397136
>How do I convince her that it's not her fault?
If she still feels that way after all this time, nothing you can say will make any difference now.
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>>34397933
Female infants get trafficked as single use fleshlights, get raped
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>>34397136
Funniest story i've read here in months. Thank you, gay op. Bonus points for it being an actual real story.
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>>34397136
lol you're not making this thread to show to someone so she takes you seriously when you threaten to kill yourself if she says no, aren't you?
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>>34397136
The guy forgot that you're supposed to threaten suicide for fun as manipulation, not actually do it.
>if you don't go on a date with me, i'll kill myself
And say this with a big smile on your face
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>>34397136
suggest she go to therapy?
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This is why women should never say no, you don't know how many people you will ruin
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>>34397136
It literally is her fault
Why the fuck would you be best friends with a member of the opposite sex if you couldn't see yourself dating them?



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