Alright, simple fucking question.I wear women's lingerie when I'm masturbating or just lounging about in my home, simply because I get off on wearing these ridiculous clothes that I'm not supposed to be wearing.In fact, I would love to have sex with a WOMAN while wearing said lingerie. Preferably HER lingerie.I have zero desire to dress like a girl outside of the sexual privacy of my home.I identify as a man. I am proud of my penis. I love women and I am definitely NOT a woman.Now, with all that being said, does this make me a troon?
I don't know anon, it's all a matter of identity. We're reaching Nietzschean levels of freedom, identity's becoming whatever the individual makes of it.troon in, troon out. fag on, fag off. kinks are weird, identity's even weirder.
>>34403925>I wear women's lingerie when I'm masturbating or just lounging about in my home, simply because I get off on wearing these ridiculous clothes that I'm not supposed to be wearing.>In fact, I would love to have sex with a WOMAN while wearing said lingerie. Preferably HER lingerie.This is how it starts. Sexual degeneracy is sexual degeneracy. Even if you don't fully troon out you could end up with some really sick fetishes that would ruin your life it it becomes public.I really don't understand many paraphilias, like just jerk off to pictures of naked ladies normally and have normal sex bro.
Don't wear womens clothing if you are not an actual woman (trans included). Now fuck off and kys.
>>34403943Complete bullshit. People can NOT do whatever these special snowflakes want to do and break all the existing norms.
>>34403925>Now, with all that being said, does this make me a troon?Yes, you literally have textbook autogynephilia. However, this is what they recommend to troons to PREVENT them from doing dumb shit like claiming they are women and taking hormones. Be glad that you actually are satisfied just wearing the lingerie. Just for science information, do you jerk off to traps too? Are you attracted to trannies?
>>34403947/thread desire is insatiable and causes suffering
>>34403925no your preferred clothing doesn't have anything to do with gender or sex that's retarded. kilts don't make you a girl and pants don't make women into men. ridiculous premise
>>34403947>This is how it startsNo it isn't.>have normal sex bro.I do have normal sex. How is me wearing my girlfriend's panties while I'm fucking her a "sick fetish". It's a fetish, yeah, but a sick one? Come on man.>>34403967>you literally have textbook autogynephilia.No, that doesn't make any sense. I told you I DO NOT identify as a fucking woman. Look, if I told you that I also enjoy fucking dogs does that mean that I get of on "being" a dog? I actually also get off on having sex outside. Now, does that mean I get off on "becoming" the outside? Yeah, I'm outside, but I'm not "becoming" it or desiring to.Listen to your fucking self man. It doesn't make any fucking sense.>Just for science information, do you jerk off to traps too? Are you attracted to trannies?No.... what the fuck?! HELL NO!!!Everytime I ask this question y'all always jump to this shit. I think it's very telling of where you guys are at in your sexuality. Like them dudes that think wiping their own ass after they shit is gay cause they're touching a man's ass. Weird shit ass projection going on here.>>34404021See now this fucking guy makes sense.
>>34404042>No, that doesn't make any sense. I told you I DO NOT identify as a fucking woman. Look, if I told you that I also enjoy fucking dogs does that mean that I get of on "being" a dog? I actually also get off on having sex outside. Now, does that mean I get off on "becoming" the outside? Yeah, I'm outside, but I'm not "becoming" it or desiring to.You have no idea what youre talking about. AGP is an erotic target location error, its literally as you describe, getting off to thoughts about YOURSELF as being a woman. That is textbook AGP. You can fight it, chimp out, sperg out, but it is the case. It doesnt have anything to do with identifying as a woman, thats actually the COPE that people with autogynephilia use to explain it to themselves, and it causes the mass retardation we are living with today. There is extensive research on this. It is recommended to people who are having troon thoughts to do exactly as you do, that is the better way to treat it then identifying as a woman like a fucking retard and growing bitch tits.
>>34404042>>this is how it starts>no it isntWtf why did you even make this thread then? You're asking if this makes people troon out and someone says maybe and you go "nuh uh."Maybe you are a woman because you have the mind of one. Didn't read the rest of your post because its probably cringe and cope and gay.
>>34403925It doesn’t matter.
>>34404061>its literally as you describe, getting off to thoughts about YOURSELF as being a woman.I said I get off on doing something that I'm not supposed to be doing. I never said I view myself as a woman. That is a conclusion that YOU jumped to because you have a bias against clothes and what they represent. At no point during my masturbating do I ever think... yeah I'm a woman now... yeah... like I'm not standing there with my dick in my hand wishing it was a vagina. They're just clothes, dude.
>>34403925blatant smut spam up for an hour and a half on /adv/fuck off
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>>34404065>You're asking if this makes people troon out and someone says maybe and you go "nuh uh."No, I asked if it makes ME a troon, not other people. I am not other people. I have no fucking idea what goes on in other people's heads. See it's like this anon said>>34404021>pants don't make women into men.Just cause a woman is wearing pants doesn't mean she wants to be a man. So why the fuck does me masturbating in lingerie mean that I want to be a woman?I'm just getting off on doing something I'm not supposed to be doing. The thrill of knowing if someone was to walk in on me wearing women's underwear, they would think I'm fucking weird.>Didn't read the rest of your post because its probably cringe and cope and gay.See you're just upset because I don't fit into your "textbook" definition of autogynowhatever the fuck that word is.See I think, it would be autogyrocornelius if I were envisioning myself as a woman while I'm having sex, but I'm not. I'm envisioning myself as a man during the sex. I just happen to be wearing some silly clothes while I'm doing it.
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>>34403925>Now, with all that being said, does this make me a troon?No, it makes you a transvestite.
>>34404165>No, I asked if it makes ME a troon, not other people. I am not other people.Serious question: are you genuinely low IQ? No one on here knows you. You're anonymous. We go based on our experiences of other people and come up with conclusions. What a mind numbingly retarded thing to say.Just be honest. You made this thread for validation about your faggy fetish. You don't want advice. You want praise or justifications. Only teenage girls or low quality women do this kind of shit. You may as well troon out or just kill yourself right now because you are definitely not acting like a man.
>>34404205>No one on here knows you.That's why we're having this conversation... so you can get to know me. Do you not understand the concept of a forum? It's not a one way form of communication. We both can ask questions and answer each other.
>>34404241Sure but you already came to a conclusion and agreed with someone who validated you. You disagree and argue with people who say you will troon and agree with those praising you yaas queen slay. Again, you don't want advice. You want to be a princess and validated. Just admit it. Or don't. I don't really care.
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>>34404249Admit what? You're not even listening to what I told you. The reason why I wear the clothes. You just blindly view, man wearing dress, man equals troon. So I agreed with someone. So what? I don't see you laying down your arguments on why he is wrong.Tell me why a piece of clothing equates to auto ghana philanthropy.
>>34404303>admit what?Nigga you're retarded. READ
>>34404249See, I'm gonna surprise you again. I'm gonna agree with someone else.>>34404204>it makes you a transvestiteThis nigga right here. See now that makes a whole lot more sense than auto gumball philosophy. They're just clothes man.
>>34404326They're just clothes.
>>34403925>FILE DELETED Yikes! Guess her ass was too hot for the jannies kek
>>34403925Does it matter if it makes you a troon? You're still just as retarded as one
>>34403925Transvestism is not the same thing as transexualism or homosexuality.From google:"Happy transvestism" refers to the positive emotional experience, joy, or personal gratification individuals feel when cross-dressing. This behavior can be for personal happiness, sexual pleasure, or self-expression, often distinct from gender dysphoria or a desire to transition.
>>34403925I used to do this quite a lot too anon. I particularly liked the sensation and how it feels in my body) touching myself in it (favourite was thigh highs and silky long opera gloves) it felt good because I felt slutty and I like that feeling.I started doing it as a teen to heighten my pleasure. It was always fun and eritic and, particularly at that age, I was sexy still so was even vain enough to masterbate looking at myself in the mirror.Anyway now I'm a dad in his 30's with a wife hand Home etc. I rarely do it as it feels such an effort now. Kinda fucked my wife a bit in thigh highs but never much else as I kept it to myself as she wasn't into it as much. Now my body is less androgynous in it so just feel stupid if I catch myself all dolled up. I still dress up a little but again it's more the stimulation of the fabrics on me I enjoy.So yeah, don't troon out, live normally and find a girl you love and live and procreate. Just keep it as you are already and you should remain happy and healthy with fun little kinks you can indulge in like I do. No need to think too deeply in it, if it feels good do it but don't let it dictate your life.
>>34405931>now I'm a dad in his 30's with a wife and homeI am extremely jealous of you cause I have none of those things
>>34404042im literally a transbian and it seems kinda like a sick fetish to me.. i have never once given a fuck about my underwear lol noone sees it except my gfi guess in theory its possible you have a thing specifically for the clothing in a vacuum.. but like you're a moid so you probably like it for sissy agp reasons
>>34406271>transbianThe fuck?
>>34405931>>34406271For the billionth time. I'm not doing it to feel sexy. Look, do you remember when you were a kid and you'd never had a girlfriend before much less a girl even touch you? And you remember when your sister invited you to her friend's house and while they were playing outside, they left you alone in the house and you went into the bedroom of your sister's friend and opened her drawer and creepishly smelled her underwear and rubbed it all over yourself as a away to get closer to that girl that will never in a billion years ever touch you?THAT is why I do it. Not to pretend I'm a woman but to imagine that a woman is with me because I'm too much of a loser to ever get one.That's the core of it. Later it evolved into masturbating outside in dangerous places as a way to feel the supposed love that I would feel if said woman was my girlfriend. Heck, the first time I ever orgasmed was when I was 12 and I was trespassing on someone's property.I want to be WITH a woman, not become one.
>>34407119oh i mean i've huffed my gfs underwear before but she's a tomboy and wears boxers and shit lol so I never developed like a thing for lingerie
>>34407722I mean they're still HER boxers ya know ;)
