I'm an autistic woman who has no fucking idea how to flirt with men, especially through text over the internet. I'm desperate for a relationship but my social skills are dogshit. All I know is how to talk about politics, religion, philosophy, and other nerd stuff. I have no clue how to keep a man engaged with me.I also have terrible self-esteem. I feel like no one ever wants me around because I'm a shitty person. I'm ugly and offputting and not with anyone's circle of friends.I need real advice, not coddling or some "IT GETS BETTER" or "EMBRACE WHO YOU ARE" bullshit.
>>34408648>through text over the internet.Lol what. There is no such thing as flirting on the internet. Socialising ia something than happens between two people i rwal life.>All I know is how to talk about politics, religion, philosophy, and other nerd stuffLots of pwople would like that, but that list of subjects makes it highly likely that you're just a midwit that highly overvalues your own opinion on things that you don't fully understand.Anyway, flirting for girls is more about just maintaining strong eye contact and seeming eager to keep the interaction going
>>34408648>through text over the internet. Doesn't work like thatGo IRL or go homeAnd yeah if you want a relationship just spread you legs. But if you want a lasting one then you'll have to figure out what sort of man you want and what you're gonna offer to them
>>34408648I was gonna tell you to embrace who you are and that some of us find autistic females to be peak kino and attractive, but you already predetermined to consider it as coddling bullshit. So I'll play ball and I won't coddle it then here goes:Shut the fuck up you self-consumed dingbat, you don't get to decide what you mean to other people, you are not the main character of life, your inner misery and low self esteem is not as important as you think it is. You fail to consider the fact that only (you) and (you) alone can feel the low self esteem. The clue is even in the word "self" esteem. But your autistic ass is so trapped in fantasy land you can't acknowledge that other people have different perspectives than your own. You don't consider that being the nerdy awkward Intorverted mousy girl you are is actually extremely attractive to some people. There are those of us who as kids if you asked who would they smash, Velma or Daphne, we picked Velma every single fucking time. Guys like us who are out there who always had the hots for the shy awkward femautist nerdy chick and would absolutely love to date/sex/marry one. Even if they are miserable and all moody all the times that's also part of the attractiveness too.But you know your problem? It's not the autism and it's not the shy Intorverted NEET shit. It's not even the low self esteem. It's the fact you can't fucking think for two seconds and measure where your perspective ends and when another individual's begins. If you did that, maybe you'd actually allow yourself to be loved. Because that's what everyone wants, "to love and be loved". However there's two types of idiot: Those who suck at loving but are amazing at receiving love. And those who are amazing at loving, but are fucking dog shit at receiving love. You're the latter. Undoubtedly you'd probably love with the best of them, autists usually are. But oh my fuck they are terrible at allowing others to love them back. Get your head out your ass
>>34408684>Anyway, flirting for girls is more about just maintaining strong eye contact and seeming eager to keep the interaction goingThat's exactly my problem: I doze off a lot and freeze when it try to keep the conversation going. I have no idea what to talk about except "deep" stuff like politics or whatever.
>>34408696>>34408648>ContinuedI ain't finished with you yet femautist. I'm a guy who knows exactly what I am talking about, I only grew up with autists and married a femautist myself, I know exactly how this rodeo goes. I was the class clown as a kid, the one the teacher shouted at in school often while you autists played teacher's fucking pet. Despite all the academic knowledge or high achieving intellectual pursuits autists have you really are as dumb as dirt when it comes to common sense. And common sense is that opposites attract. Yknow the type of guy who was a rogue asshole in school? The class clown? Maybe even your male school "bully"? He had a crush on you retard. That's the reason guys like us impishly pestered and bugged or even bullied the nerdy chick at school. It's because we wanted to get their attention, get their nose out of their fucking book. Why? That's how life works, the people you considered to be beneath you or your complete opposite always had the hots for your type. But you autists are obsessed with routine and everything being the same that you can't ever allow someone else who differs from your own thinking to attempt to love you. And what's more this obsession with routine is so dug into your psyche that when you gain low self esteem or misery your autistic ass will actually choose it again and again and again, deliberately staying miserable because it's a routine and changes are too scary, right? Even changes for the damn better you will swat away and you'll keep yourself in a fucking ditch just to appease your inner algorithm like some robot.How about grow up and learn how to channel your own thinking? If I had to wise ho and change myself to fit into society as a trouble making retard clown deadbeat petty criminal, then surely someone as "intellectual" as you, femautist, surely you can manage to make changes too. Right? Or are is that against the fucking algorithm/routine? Get a grip, chick.
>>34408648Don't try to flirt the way you see in movies and don't use any 'techniques', like playing hard to get, or doing a slowburn, or whatever. All those things require social awareness that you do not have. You will crash and burn if you try.You have to be blunt and direct because your tism doesn't give you other options. You have to say shit like "I think you're handsome, will you go on a date with me?". You might think, oh that's not what they do in movies. Yes, correct, but you can't do the romantic movie stuff, so do this instead.Also, work on your self esteem first. Getting a bf isn't going to help like you think it will. You'll probably sabotage the relationship with insecurity and end up feeling even worse when it ends. Fix your self esteem first, you deserve to be loved
>>34408648Simply don't flirt. Communicate and connect with something through philosophy, shared principles or something else meaningful. A relationship built on flirting would be inherently unstable and without value anyway, so why even allow it to be a factor? Cut all vapid endeavors out of your life.>I feel like no one ever wants me around because I'm a shitty personHuman worth is objective. People who are honest, compassionate, selfless and principled are inherently valuable, and those values can be possessed by you simply by you willing to have them. Nothing can force you to lie or to act selfishly. If you want to feel like a good person, be a good person. And place your value on your morality alone. Placing it on how other people perceive you or on how you think you look is a surefire way to become insecure.Essentially, cultivate goodness and look for somebody who's also good. Don't waste time thinking about what sort of cheap tricks you can pull to get into a relationship, such as flirting, because a relationship that has to be snuck into isn't one you're going to want to stay in.
>>34408648You need to basically looksmaxx and just be straight up with men. If you are at least a 6/10 and you go up to a guy you find attractive and say something along the lines of "I think you're beautiful and want to have your children", it will unironically work on most guys assuming they're single. Emphasis on the looksmaxx part, if you are a 4 or something your success rate will be drastically lower.
>desperate for relationship Bos_boi my discord let's chat
>>34408648You ever tried calling a man the n word in real life? Men love that. It shows confidence and that you're a troublemaker they have to tame.
Find a Autistic man the easiest way its a brazilian jiu-jitsu class unironically also tcg stores are good
>>34408727>doze offThe fuck? Do you have narcolepsy how are you regularly falling asleep during in person conversations?
>>34409807>the easiest way its a brazilian jiu-jitsu classWhat is it about jiu jitsu specifically? Speaking as an autist that also loves jiu jitsu
>>34408648>All I know is how to talk about politics, religion, philosophy, and other nerd stuff.There are plenty of men who will remain engaged with these topics. Is there any particular subject you broach that results in immediate, noticeable reservation? Is there a preceding action before you clock disinterest? There may be a pattern here.>terrible self-esteem. I feel like no one ever wants me around because I'm a shitty person. I'm uglyPoor self esteem may either be a result of the two qualities mentioned above or it may have negatively altered your ability to accurately assess yourself. It's possible you're overestimating how unattractive or shitty you are. In my experience unless a woman is exceptionally ugly or obese she can usually garner reasonable attention from the opposite sex. Consider finding another party, whom you trust to judge you impartially, and asking their opinion. No one here should be considered neutral.Additionally, if you are flirting with other autists you can expect them to be dense and incapable of picking up on subtlety. Your attempts may be adequate for a normal individual and not the people you're meeting.Walk me through your process. How do you "flirt" with a man?
>>34408727>I doze off a lot and freeze when it try to keep the conversation goingElaborate. What precisely are you doing here?>except "deep" stuff like politicsIn the past, the people I have met who enthusiastically initiate political discussions had insufferably tame, urbane opinions and only seemed concerned with demonstrating their adherence to the beliefs of the group. A weird sort of ego-stroking. You may be giving off this vibe unintentionally. Consider other topics.
>>34408648I know you don't want to hear this, but you are approaching this from completely the wrong perspective. The purpose of "flirting" and dating isn't to change yourself into what someone else wants, it's to find someone who wants you the way you already are. If you have to pretend to be someone else in order to get someone to like you, the relationship is doomed from the start.
>>34408648>I feel like no one ever wants me aroundJust for clarity, does this statement extend to friends and family?
You are just really fat or fucking ugly, you still should have 100 messages per day by default fro guys
>>34408696>>34408735I didn't know I needed to read that... you described my current relationship to a T and it's the best I've ever had as a femautist. Thank you