Sorry that happened to you. Yes most guys will try to get you to fuck. I’m glad I saved myself for another virgin

Fuck it cut me off read this first
Met this guy at a club and he took care of me with his friends while i was blacked out and asked for my number. We talked for a while, went to a bar and i got to meet more of his friends. He’s 24, good job, educated, attractive not at first but he really liked me so i got into him. He texted me so often and constantly called me pretty. He had a thing for tooth gaps, said i looked like Margaret Qualley. He also had a thing for feet which he got pushy with wanting to see mine even said he’d pay for a manicure but i denied cause i don’t like using men like that and knowing me i would’ve just gotten a game or something with it. After the bar we went back to his and fucked. He knew i was a virgin(i told him drunkenly) he didn’t wanna put it in me. NOW READ THE REST SORRY

>>34411283
Definitely smart. I’m not killing myself over this just don’t want it to happen again. It felt like when a kid wants a puppy, gets it and looses all interest.

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
I don't know. Did you enjoy it enough to make it worth doing, even though it was going to be a one-off? If so, you weren't an idiot.

>Is this what guys do?
Yes.

>He was the one going after me at first. Do men really loose interest after getting what they wanted?
Yes.

>Was i too easy??
Again, if you enjoyed it enough that you feel like it was worth doing, that's fine. If you're now feeling used and miserable then clearly you did the wrong thing.

>Even when i have denied giving guys head they loose interest after so it’s always a lose.
Correct.

>Kinda long sorry just want a real answer and some help i don’t wanna do this again if i’m gonna be left in the dust.
Then you clearly did the wrong thing this time round.

>Should i message him?
No.

>or is that wrong?
It's not wrong, it's just pointless and a bit pathetic. You know perfectly well he's not going to reply.

>>34411275
You should of saved it for someone who loved you

laughing at alcohol cucks
enjoy your permanent alcohol induced brain damage AND the loss of your v-card

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
Yes, but more importantly, you're now a whore, and it's harder for you to credibly do anything else.
>so it’s always a lose
Filtering out sex pests isn't a loss.

>>34411358
Thanks for saying it’d be pathetic, needed to hear that. I don’t regret it too much, it’s more what happened after. Should’ve thought more about it. Why do men do this though. I don’t think all are like this but a lot of them are. How does one know he’s being genuine?

>>34411275
I mean you got drunk and fucked a guy from a club. If you were expecting roses you should have taken the hard road like the rest of us

>>34411399
Do you know what a whore is? I’m not stretched and used up buddy. Your perfect little virgin fairytale you fuck yourself too is taking dick right now. Hope your future wife has a pussy you can drive an 18 wheeler through.

>>34411547
seething alckie sloot

>>34411275
>Should i message him?
Do you genuinely enjoy being treated like a fuckhole that gets tossed aside? Or do you actually want a guy who will cuddle in bed after fucking you?

>>34411582
I should’ve said the reason i wanted to message him but id wanna ask what it was, if i did something wrong but men aren’t straight up sometimes and i don’t wanna seem desperate, like would wanna hear it from the horses mouth. So i could avoid this if it ever happens again. i obviously want the second part of your message lol im not a dumb whore. Just would be nice to get a valid reason and not use concern as an excuse. Like did you realize i was ugly? did you simply wanna fuck? like that but definitely not going to. Come to a realization i’ll look pathetic no matter what grr

>>34411542
Definitely wasn’t expecting to be given some flowers but at least answers. I asked him flat out what was wrong and he just got weird. If i’m some bitch from the club say the pussy was trash or something not that it was concerning i was wondering why he got so dry. Feel like it’s pretty normal to want to talk to the person you were talking to for a while and then slept with but idk men too well guess that isn’t their flow with some. Is this like a protection thing men do? oh i should just ghost her instead of telling her yeah i just wanted to nut?

>>34411521
>Why do men do this though.
Because they really, really, really want sex, and they're willing to do almost literally anything to obtain it. In some cases, there's a direct misogynist element too - they like lying to a woman and making her think it's going to be all sunshine and wedding bells and then dumping her after the first fuck to make her as miserable as possible. But in most cases I think they rationalise it by telling themselves that they need it so badly that the ends justify the means; and in others it's all about "the pursuit" and as soon as they actually catch someone they lose interest.

>I don’t think all are like this but a lot of them are. How does one know he’s being genuine?
Honestly, you never can for sure. I knew a guy some years ago who was one of the ones who actively enjoyed leading women on, then pumping and dumping them. He generally had half a dozen women on the go at once (not knowing about each other) and sometimes he would keep this up for more than a year; he was technically engaged to more than one girl at a time on several occasions. (Dumped each one after the first fuck). There's no way you can guard against someone who is that accomplished and dedicated a liar. Of course, in theory you could wait till after you're married; but that means you probably end up married to someone you aren't sexually compatible with. (Retarded incels will claim any two people can be compatible if there is enough consideration and communication; this is the kind of thing that sounds plausible when you've never actually had sex, but that you realise is wildly wrong once you've been with a few people).

All I can really say is: never have sex while drunk; never have sex unless it's what *you* want, and not merely what he wants; and trust your instincts. It's much easier for someone to deceive and confuse the logical part of your mind than the instinctive part; if something doesn't feel right, don't ignore that feeling.

>>34411275
You are a psyop to get me to engage with this website or to sway the opinion of guys who read the anti female posts. You are not real.
In case that you are real, yeah, you got a bit played, but it's okay, we all make mistakes, your heart is still in a pure place it seems, wait nevermind I just read you're "not looking for a relationship"
You're for the streets, and you deserve what happened to you

Another case of femoid fucking pump and dump chad. Tsk tsk tsk

>>34411275
>he ended up doing it without a condom.
Do make sure you have an STD test in a few weeks, won't you? It's unlikely you're the only woman he's done this with.

>>34412240
I would’ve wanted it to progress. At that time i wasn’t thinking this is gonna be my man. I would’ve wanted it to go somewhere, he was pretty cool, good job, had a lot of good people as friends. I’m not for the streets this definitely made me realize how much of a relationship person i really am. If i was a whore wouldn’t i be happy he ended up leaving me alone to move on to the next?

>>34411275
Try not to fuck players. It's the same as when a guy would go for a mid girl instead of a super hot girl since the hot ones are more likely to be blown out.

>>34412213
That’s so scary. As someone who’s straight up with everyone i can’t imagine doing that omg. Wish truth serum was a thing lol. Feel like i wouldn’t even find a man who’d want to wait for marriage they all move on so fast. I know i’m not terrible looking wish i wasn’t just fuckable, feels like that sometimes. And yes never having drunk sex again unless we are dating lol thank you for your reply, honestly you seem like a good guy thanks for not calling me a whore.

>>34412252
Yeah already went to a clinic. I don’t fuck with that no matter how dumb i may seem. Thank you!

Fucking whore.

>>34412629
>Feel like i wouldn’t even find a man who’d want to wait for marriage
Well you sure as hell won't now, amiright hahahaha!?!?

>>34411275
>Was i too easy??
even had you made him wait months or years soon as he got that pussy he will lose interest and run

I bet someone warned about having casual sex and losing your virginity and you probably called them an incel. What a messed up world we're living in.

You can still find a husband, but he will be a spineless one, without a shred of dignity, and you will forever compare him with other options you cannot obtain

>>34412834
Literally just came up with a scenario that never happened.

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
Nah. Happens to the best of us.
>Is this what guys do?
It's what shitty guys do.
>He was the one going after me at first. Do men really loose interest after getting what they wanted?
Anyone pushing that hard for sex that quickly (and feet stuff wtf lol) is going to dip the moment they get laid. They're broken men.
>Was i too easy??
You were definitely too drunk.
>Even when i have denied giving guys head they loose interest after so it’s always a lose.
This is concerning. Maybe consider sucking fewer dicks and fucking fewer guys.

>Should i message him? or is that wrong?
No, I don't think you should. He doesn't have any respect for you.
You should only message him if you want to be a body for some guy to use.
I'm a man myself fwiw.

>>34412897
>Literally just came up with a scenario that never happened.
It surely happened. These are the kinds of things that always happen with "modern women." They get warned about losing their virginity but they always ignore it, because those who warn them are "le bad", "incels." Not only that, they rather accept advices from other foids, which is the most stupid thing you can do, if there's something I learned is that women don't want to see other women doing good, and that misery loves company.

>>34412910
>Nah. Happens to the best of us.
it doesn't, the best of "you" marry as virgins in their early 20s.

>>Is this what guys do?
>It's what shitty guys do.
Cope.

>>Was i too easy??
>You were definitely too drunk.
Cope

>>34412910
Literal definition of misery loves company. I bet you're single, and no, fucking a guy doesn't count as relationship.

>>34412917
That's awesome, son.

>>34412919
>I bet you're single,
I am.
>and no, fucking a guy doesn't count as relationship.
I agree. Where did I imply otherwise?

Did neither of you guys get to the last line of my post?

>>34411275
The amount of investment you require from men is what they'll give you.
If you require commitment before sex, they'll commit. If you don't they won't.
>but they leave if I don't provide sex
Those guys just want to cum. They don't like you as a person. If they actually like spending time with you and make it clear that sex is available (only) at a later stage of the relationship, they will stick around.
Sexual liberation and the death of God put us all in a world of pointless suffering.
Men need to bag as many women as possible in order to have self esteem, and women think they need to offer sex early to keep a desirable man. Desirable men, however, have options and won't commit easily. This creates a scenario where most men get little to no sex, most women get pumped and dumped, and a few men have a lot of empty casual sex. Nobody is really happy, but that's what happens when we just do what our genitals tell us without considering second and third order effects.
Also this has nuked marriage and fertility rates, which will probably destroy most economic and government systems because they were built in a mileu of constant population growth.

>>34412944
>If they actually like spending time with you and make it clear that sex is available (only) at a later stage of the relationship, they will stick around.
Do you think that now she can ask her future husband to not have sex before marriage provided that she already gave her virginity to a random guy down the street?

>>34412972
She can ASK, but no worthwhile man is going to accept waiting for what other guys got right away. It's insulting and humiliating.
The amount of commitment a woman demands before sex is a measure of her value. I'd consider a woman who had three serious relationships a better marriage option than one who had a single one night stand. People always talk about body counts, but body commitment is important too.

>>34413004
I agree with you, I would rather marry a widow or a single mom that had sex inside a marriage than a woman that had one night stand, frankly.

>>34413004
You can never prove she's telling the truth. Women already know these things.

>>34412912
I agree with you on women wanting other women to be miserable but i’ve never called a man an incel for not liking causal sex. When i did talk to a guy who was the non causal type he went off on me for not travelling hours to go see him. Don’t think he wanted to have a playdate. It’s always something. I’ve never listened to bitches who get dick like that. My mistake was my own.

>>34411275
Was he also drunk?

>>34411275
There's a lot of femcels and incels in this thread. Don't take them seroiusly.

>>34413125
>My mistake was my own.
At least you can see that. I won't try to comfort you, you messed up. But what's done is done, it's better to realize now with a body count of 1 than with a body count of 10, 100, 200... Think about it, it's better to stay single than to submit yourself to these kinds of relationships that offer no value.

>>34412910
Thank you for replying and yeah he definitely doesn’t have any respect for me, i’m just someone who likes to know why things happen the way they do yk? maybe I did something wrong? I was definitely too drunk and it was my first time being taken home by a guy doesn’t really justify it though. Was bullied pretty bad growing up by boys, was always the ugly one so i’m new at dealing with male attention like this and not knowing how they are. i really don’t wanna be used but these guys are all on their slut journeys. After this experience considering abstinence until i know that a man truly cares for me. Never liked the idea of causal sex before that went out the ass cause of the drinks unfortunately.

Guys don't give a fuck if it's one guy. They didn't with me.

>>34411275
Yes you are a big dumb dumb, a lot of guys will hit it and quit it. We have a thing called dating, where man and woman can check if their potential partner is worthy of a relationship. Now I hope you learned something, don't just have sex without relationship since that is just begging for broken heart, STD and possible pregnancy. Oh and get tested for STDs since he didn't wrap it.

>>34413139
I don’t know about drunk. I’m like 5’5 he was taller so it might’ve affected him differently. He definitely had some sort of buzz.

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>>34411275
>I'm easy and I got used
yes?
>ended up doing it without a condom
lmao stupid whore
>wasn’t looking for a relationship
then what's the problem? you got pumped and dumped, such is life.

>>34411275
Lots of dudes brag about slaying Virgins. It's some dude's thing. Sorry you went through that, dumbass.

also
>losing your virginity with some random retard, while drunk
this has to be a /robot/ larping

>>34413149
Yeah honestly. I’m not gonna sit and cry, just needed to know if this is normal for men. i am happy i can realize this now unlike a lot of other girls that keep fucking the same guy and getting the same outcome. Just Hope one day i come across a good guy grr

>>34411521
>Why do men do this though.
because sex has been turned into a commodity rather than a bond.
Men need to jerk off or have sex otherwise life just becomes horrible, everything becomes more stressful, it's a biological need.
A lot of men can't get in long term relationships to get consistent sex (society issue)
so they just go after 1 night stand type things.

>how does one know he's being genuine
By not meeting him on dating apps. You need to realize that social media and dating apps are glorified sex-attraction, if you want real genuine bonds you need to have hobbies and form connections with men in those hobbies so you have common grounds to bond over.
If you meet people through community they'll probably not be so fast moving and if you say "not right now" or "lets go slower" you'll find they're more understanding, that's how you can at least kinda get some genuine interest going.

What do you even want out of >>34411275
>this
OP? a relationship? quick sex? just to feel good? You had sex while drunk and now realized that it wasn't a good idea, you made a mistake and that's fine, one mistake in life often doesn't define us. Just try to be better. In my opinion sex is something important and shouldn't just be like "oooo i want my hole/shaft to feel good ngngggnnnn"

>>34413043
Yeah asymmetric information is a bitch. There's heuristics like "double or triple whatever she says her bodycount is", but those aren't perfect solutions.
At the end of the day a lot of inexperienced dudes are going to be settling with women who went through a "slut phase".
Free and easy sex whenever you want is just too good of an opportunity for women and chads to pass up. Unless a girl comes from a strongly religious family or you marry your high-school sweetheart, you're going to have to accept that your woman got used and thrown away at some point. Maybe a small percentage of women will learn and grow from that experience, but most women operate in a zero accountability environment, so they'll either pretend it never happened or put 100% of the blame on men.
In ~60 years since the pill and ~12 years of dating apps the sexual marketplace reached an equilibrium that just manufactures suffering for men and women.
The silver lining is that younger zoomers, both men and women, are reporting lower rates of sex. There's also growing sentiment against the use of dating apps by both men and women, although they remain the way that most relationships start in part due to general lack of friction and culture discouraging flirting and dating with people you know professionally and socially.
Society is slowly starting to heal, but for Zillennials like myself at marriage age, finding a woman who has been able to avoid infinite and instantaneous free male attention and chad cock available at her fingertips 24/7 is challenging.
It's like you gave a bunch of toddlers unlimited free candy whenever they want, and you have to find one that didn't get fat.

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>>34413248
Just don't get married lol. Even if you marry a virgin, the satisfaction rate is 50%. This is just how you get financially and emotionally ruined for no reason.

>>34413213
I am a dumbass lmao not gonna blame him i should’ve been smarter i didn’t even know i told him i was a virgin until he mentioned it days later. He didn’t get weird just asked if it was true. The one time i don’t have any gut feelings right.

>>34412213
>wedding bells
I don't think there's one guy on Earth that cares if you fucked when you're engaged. This is a completely different situation.

>>34411521
>Why do men do this though
because a girl broke his heart

>>34413152
You're welcome. I learned the hard way that casual sex isn't for me either.
I don't think it's very healthy for most people, frankly.

>>34412629
>thanks for not calling me a whore
Sure. I'm not exactly 4chan's core demographic, I guess: I'm old and liberal/left.

It is difficult finding someone you can trust. And unfortunately relationships depend on trust: sooner or later you have to choose to trust the other person, and if you don't or can't, it's not going to work out. But it's in the nature of trust that it can be, and sometimes is, betrayed. If you could be 100% sure you can trust someone, you wouldn't need to trust them.

So, naturally, there's a balance to be struck: don't be naive, but at the same time don't be incurably cynical.

Unlike most of the incels around here, I'm not going to give you a hard time about wanting or enjoying sex. If you'd come on here and said "I had sex and I loved it and I'm going to have more!" I would just have smiled quietly to myself and said "Ah, yes, I remember being young!" So, in so far as there's a problem with your behaviour, here, the issue is not that you had sex, it's that having it made you unhappy - and also that it was a little reckless (in the sense that having unprotected sex with someone you don't know very well is risky - pregnancy, STDs, etc.)

So I guess that brings us back around to: if you're going to have sex, have it on your own terms. Decide what you want, and with whom, and then pursue that; don't expect the universe to make it happen for you. And don't do things that compromise your judgement or your ability to stay in control of a situation (e.g. drinking).

Best of luck to you!

I was an incel before incels existed as a concept
I called women sluts but I was simply jealous they weren't fucking me even though I never put myself out there.
After I had sex my entire worldview changed and now I love perverted women and can't stand prudes.
These boys are just lashing out in frustration. Don't take it personally.

>>34413430
>living a life of hedonism is in fact bad
true

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>>34413239
>sex is important
It's literally not. All 10 billion of our parents had sex. Fat trailer trash are having sex. The only people who think this are people who haven't had sex.
Society has just made sex some taboo thing because of religion and to protect the kids. So now everyone feels like it's some dirty thing despite it being a basic biological need when it's the absolute most normal thing in the world.

>>34413623
my point isn't that it's some 'dirty thing' I think it's just more important than slam shaft in hole and feel good. We're a little more than just basic animals and the emotional connections that come with the shit load of chemicals that are produced during sex isn't discountable.

>>34413631
fair enough

>>34413210
kek, based truther telling it like it is

>>34413602
Yeah, you can definitely tell which ones have real experiences + advice and which ones just wanna call me a whore for letting one dick in me loll

>>34413255
I want to raise children in a stable household and have a legal and religious union with their mother recognized by law and the community.
"All women are whores, so just never commit." Isn't a viable strategy if you want society to continue.
>inb4 Why does society matter? Just do what feels good.
That attitude is how we got here.

>>34413714
What did you expect for posting:
>I let a stranger cum inside me when I was drunk.

>>34413781
Was asking if this is the norm for men since i don’t have much experience with them. I said more than just me drink me fuck.Yeah i knew a few were gonna be calling me a slut. Was just replying to the guy.

>>34413759
You don't have a personal duty to continue society. If you choose to do so, it is an act of self-sacrifice. All the married men I know tell me not to do it.

>>34413824
Genuinely what did you expect? "Men" are not like this, but many men are. It's your job to vet them.

>>34413839
Okay, call me a dumb bitch and go if it’s irking you.

>>34413901
I just don't know what advice you really want. Yes, some men are like this. Not all men are. If you didn't want to get pumped and dumped you could've waited longer into a relationship to have sex.

>>34411399
>Yes, but more importantly, you're now a whore, and it's harder for you to credibly do anything else.

ahahahahahhahha wanted to comment this but didn't want to troll myself.

>>34413909
I was asking for advice on everything i said. I had some specific questions but on the whole situation what other guys thought. I don’t have guy friends who can straighten me out, so i asked on here. First time posting so maybe i wasn’t the most articulate. A lot of people have used that pump and dump thing which is crazy lmao never heard of that so this is a thing that happens a lot. And i have gotten some good advice about not texting the guy, and just other men’s perspectives. Needed a man to full out say yeah he doesn’t respect you it’d be pathetic. I needed to hear that. Idk as a girl you have a thing to try and make things right and i wanted to know if it was bad i was so easy. Some said it happens some called me a whore. I don’t think this was useless

>>34411275
Haven't read wanna play some arams?

>>34414121
As long as you actually get some help from here that's all that matters anon. As much as other anons are gonna shit on you for it or say like "you're being a weak man and just simping" about me, your 1 bad choice doesn't define you.
Yes it might be a big thing to you right now, your first time ever, yes the reality of it is that you 'gave it' away to someone who doesn't respect you, doesn't care and likely just wanted his hole, realize not all guys are like that and if you want to find ones who actually form bonds with you, like I said here >>34413239 don't meet them at parties or on dating apps. Get hobbies, do things, find people through there, don't put out instantly.
It's a big deal right now but it's not a massive deal in your entire life.

>>34414161
This is the worst thing you could’ve asked me on this here thread.

>>34414174
There is no way that that is true

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>>34414185
The man was a league player.

>>34414121
Those are a lot of words to say nothing at all

>>34414213
Top laner behaviour

>>34414166
Yeah you’re right thank you that’s sweet. I definitely won’t rush anything again too. It is just one bad mistake.

>>34414296
Just try to not make the same mistake again and again, even if you do mess up again and some guy just hits and leaves, as long as you're not making a habit of it and not making excuses for yourself, it's OK.
If possible, talk to your mom about it, or dad if you and he are mature enough to handle difficult topics, if your parents love you they'll always be OK with difficult conversations, they'll always be there for you.
I've struggled with choices where I had to mentally justify "one mistake doesn't define me, I am not my mistakes I am the actions I take to avoid making the same mistake over and over again"

Take care bud, stay safe anon.

>>34414315
You’re the best thank you so much. You’re right in that whole reply. I talked to my sister about it and she gave me shit of course but it wont be happening again. I’ve definitely learned a lot from this and don’t wanna be that dumb broad that makes the same mistake over and over. Feel like going forward i know what i actually want now. Take care of yourself!

My sister is 33 years old soon and still a virgin. How the fuck do I help her. I can tell she’s going to attract so many creeps if she tried dating so I never bring it up with her.

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
Yes
> Is this what guys do?
It's what assholes do. You gotta vet them.
>He was the one going after me at first. Do men really loose interest after getting what they wanted?
Assholes do
>Was i too easy??
Yes

>>34414422
Was gonna make a joke, but i’ll be serious. How do you know she’s a virgin?

>>34414429
Is there actual men who are out there that would like me even if i didn’t do stuff with him for a while? I feel like i’m a moment of wanting to fuck. Wish I could post my face without posting my face yk I’ve got wife in me but these men all see something to stick their dick in. I don’t have an aesthetic or anything but the same guys keep finding me.

>>34414642
Anon, wake up. Stop it.
Yes, there's men out there that aren't just going to want to shag and run. Is it harder to find that nowadays? absolutely. How old are you?

>>34414673
I know it sounds stupid it’s just the ones that come into my life are all dogs, it makes it feel like there’s really no normal men. i’m 21

Dumb slut

>>34414748
I mean wake up and stop it relating to you saying like, "Is there actual men who are out there that would like me even if i didn’t do stuff with him for a while?"
Of course there is, but lads your age are often just as lost and confused as everyone else and have no clue what they want. Like other anons said, one shite choice in your life doesn't dictate who are you are. It's a shit situation I realize that and the reality is pretty harsh, but you talk to your family about it and realize there is good people out there, just no on apps. If you're still in school or in work try to meet people through that, you will form actual connections and be able to get a better read on if cunts are genuine or no.
Goodluck lass n dont let knobheads here get you down, it's an advice board but remember this place is still a shithole and it's full of incels and women looking to put other women down just as much as the incels are.

>>34414748
Anon. You are a dog. You're no better than those men.

>>34414763
Thank you. I know deep down there’s good men with their heads on right, just so sick of being approached by dicks. I’ll try and look for better people in better spaces. And yeah guys my age are all over the place. This guy was a few years older so i thought he’d be different but i guess it’s still the same for some. Thank you again i won’t let the weirdos on here get to my head lol i know i’m a good girl just made a mistake, not a whore. Stay safe!!

>>34414793
K letting him fuck me was definitely not the right thing to do but i didn’t ghost him. Would’ve wanted to keep going out with him. He fucked me and disappeared.

>>34414807
You are a whore. You're no better than those women. Stop shaming other women and take the bloody L, loser. You were a fucking retard who didn't even know what "pump and dump" meant before this thread, like are you illiterate, how do you not stumble across the phrase in your 21 years of living. Send a message to the cunt, ask. If you weren't looking for a relationship, then why do you care that he's gone? You were also just looking for a crumb of validation, and you got yours in the form of "you are fuckable enough to be pumped and dumped". He got his in the form of "I am fuckable enough to fuck some slut". Happy? If you want something more, then have a personality other than "does this moid like me or not??1? What do I have to do to make moids like me?1??"

Learn how to assess characters. Intent. Motives. Learn from your mistakes. You are a whore. Own it, loser.

>>34414642
Why on earth do you want to post face? Still seeking validation? Just post face. Nobody here gives a shit and people do it all the time. You'll get the feedback or whatever it is you want concerning your face. But what exactly is your face supposed to accomplish? Are you trying to see if your face is "likable" enough? Mate. It's not about your face. It's about your lack of spine. No matter what your face is, you own it.

>>34414885
You're a nigger.

>>34414925
How insightful.

>>34414931
So you literally admitted to being right? You really are one are you?

>>34414964
I didn't admit to anything. I was sarcastically pointing out how your post did not address anything I was talking about (nor add anything to the discussion). I.e. another day on adv another ad hominemtard

No one that insulted op is fuckable in anyway whatsoever.

>>34414974
I'm just passing by. She will be fine.

>>34411275
I tried to do that but everyone made me feel guilty and I stayed
and I regretted it deeply because she was BPD and tried to kill me a couple times, besides poisoning friends and making me look terrible in front of family and everyone around me.
some girls are hit and ran, even if everyone despises you for a short while

>>34414977
If you find the truth insulting that's your problem. I simply pointed out OP's NLOG attitude and the fact that she's spineless. Whilst playing around with the "insults" people seem to be overly sensitive about (whore, incel, yadda yadda)

>>34414979
Sure. Never said she would or wouldn't be

>>34414988
Then why do you care?

>>34414997
Care about what? Just voiced my opinion upon reading the thread.

>>34414885
You jerk chicken fuck. You seem so mad, calm down. No i didn’t know what that was excuse me. When did i ever say does he like me?? how do i make guys like me?? i was asking if this was a thing guys do and more. You clearly read the thread, read it again this time with your eyes open. If you think i’m a whore, okay? If you think one dick is equivalent to 5 or 10 grow up. Got drunk and did something i only regret cause of what happened after. And i said at first i wasn’t looking for a relationship till after. Let me slow this down for you We talk, me not looking for boyfriend. We talk more, me consider. Now idk jack off your anger or some type shii homie. Do you get it now?

>>34415014
You weren't looking for a relationship, you fucked him, and didn't get a relationship. What you did was a whorish act. Stop labelling people whores or not whores. You did something whorish. So be it. Stop trying to distance yourself from the "whore" label. You did what you did. It was whorish. Full stop.

And what, so what you're saying is that AFTER fucking him, you now want a relationship with him? Well then go ahead, build one. If he rejects you then tough luck, move onto the next. And given what happened, approach it differently i.e. don't have sex then expect a relationship to blossom out of it. Build a relationship using something different. Common interests, goals, values, reciprocity, yadda.

>>34414908
Literally said that with no intention of actually doing it lol I went on to say i have no aesthetic or anything which i mentioned cause i also said the same dicks keep coming for me. I don’t need you explaining that i’m fuckable the problem literally is THAT I AM FUCKABLE and these guys won’t do anything else with me. So i came here to ask some questions about men. I also said i don’t have guy friends, never have so yeah im not too knowledgeable on how they operate. If it turns them off when a girl is too easy. If it’s bad to make them wait too long like come on

>>34415043
So what's your end goal? Get into a relationship with a moid you like? Then stop just standing there like an easy target and actually go and find moids you like and figure out what it is you like about them PLUS what they "might" like about you. First step? Make some guy friends. Every guy is different, just like every girl is different, and every human is different - while there are trends, there are also gonna be plenty of exceptions.

>>34415043
This guy just wants to talk to a decent girl. I suggest you stop replying.

>>34415068
>decent looking
But I think you're fine.

>>34414885
truke

>>34415056
Wow actual advice. Thanks. You don’t even call me a whore once.

>>34411667
It is about the kind of person he is. You wanted to fuck and to have a connection. He met you at a club and just wanted to get some tail. That's it. The pussy wasn't bad, your personality wasn't bad, he just never at any point wanted a relationship or a connection. Think about it, he goes to clubs and hooks up with random women, you really think *he* is trying to make a connection?

If you want a connection or talk with someone, don't meet them at the club. Literally the worst place to meet people

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>>34411296
Female virginities are in high demand, you just ruined yourself forever. Too bad.

Might as well become a whore who has casual sex with randos every week. And yes, men who also sleep around will just use your hole and fuck off if they think you're not worth pursuing for anything else. The fact that you got piss drunk with a bunch of randos was probably the trigger for him to realize you were nothing but a brainless slut so he changed tactics to meathole destroyer mode, but even in the last moment he debated whether to actually take your virginity or not, very considerate of him.

>>34415492
Meathole destroyer mode is actually fucking hilarious. Thank you for making me laugh. How am i ruined for life though? A lot of you people say that but how do you actually mean? Why should i just give in to the whore life and get fucked every week now? Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life? I’ve said in other replies i’m not like that and don’t just wanna fuck and be left alone. You seem to hate sluts but encourage it?

>>34415893
>You seem to hate sluts but encourage it?
this is literally the incel mindset anon, ignore them.
It's the andrew tate type shit "grrrrrrrr women are WHORES!!!! why wont they fuck me!!!!!!! they're fucking whoooores!!!!!"

>>34415492
>Female virginities are in high demand

Thats true but she is definetly not ruined for life. What are you talking about? sounds like its coming from an insane person.

if she is pondering over what to do from now on, chances are she is going to go for the serious guys. if not, then she is still not a whore, this thing is reserved for the ones who charge money for sex. So shut the fuck up.

>>34411275
post tits you stupid fucking slut

>>34416110
Loll literally. Such a polluted brain.

>>34416130
Tbh men pretty much throw out all standards out the window immediately if the woman is hot enough and interested.

>>34411275
You sound very low IQ. And you are also a slut. Why do you care about what men are like? Check yourself first.

>>34416379
Not me. I dumped my hot ex (not posting pics tho) . It sucks, I will kill myself if i have to settle.

>>34416110
Incels arent one thing. Andrew taint represents the india psyop

>>34411275
Well OP let me just say this:
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAHHHSHSHSHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHGAGAJSHAHHAGAHAHHAHAHAHAHSHSHSHSHSHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGGAHAHASGSGDHSGAFAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA
CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOU LOLOL

>>34416455
Thats very well said. Indian people would definetly call any one a slut and a whore the moment they even catch their even their own daughters interacting with a man.

Such a digusting culture. I saw it in Uni with some of my classmates describing how shackled they were back home. MAN its tough for them.

>>34416598
Indian men aren't completely cucked then and don't have only ran-through whores as options for marriage

Good for them, their lives already suck enough

>>34416606
Yeah thats true. While their lives suck at least they have the privilege of not having a ran through wife.

In fact, an indian guy told me this exact same thing a few weeks ago ahahhaha.
"These people give so much shit to their daughters that its easy for us(Indian men) to have a super trained maid wife since divorce in india is the worst thing that can happen to a lady" - Thats what he said.

At OP is not in india. She should celebrate.

>>34415893
>Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life?
They genuinely do think that, yes.

>>34415893
>Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life?

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>>34415893
>Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life?
It's an output of your poor judge of character, and a lack of consideration for the consequences (and risks) of your own behaviors.
Women claim to value intimacy, but also give it away for too low of a price (or for free) showing that they do not in fact value it at all. People judge you for the mistakes you make (and repeat) and that just something you can't pretend isn't a factor in relationships.

>>34416606

they need more pump and dump in their culture. otherwise men wont be able to survive in these trying times.

why can't women be virgins bros. shit so sad I get depressed, not worth it.

>>34416606
>Indian men aren't completely cucked then and don't have only ran-through whores as options for marriage
Not true, plenty of poojeetas grabbing about fucking white boys before arranged marriage meetings. Women will be women no matter the country, ethnicity etc.

>>34416458
Didn’t blame anyone lol I’m well aware i put myself in that situation. Not gonna blame him for wanting pussy, just don’t understand how some can fuck and leave it at that. And you definitely wrote that with a straight face and crumbs on your pants lol

>>34416645
>reddit spacing
>blank.filename from the funny youtube grifters
Just go back.

>>34416997
>poojeetas

literally every single indian girl i have ever seen in my Uni. I feel like the moment they leave india they just whore themselves out. Oh man.

had a couple in class, everything was fine dude was in love with this indian girl and one day they break up and i came to know that girl was married off by her parents and she didnt give two shits about breaking this guy's heart. when my girl-friend inquired about it directly from her she says "nah he would have never survived living in India with me. Its just not adaptable for white people"

man i just feel so bad about that dude.

>>34416997
>>34417028
The anon was talking of indian women that live in India

Yeah the ones in the west are probably as bad as any other

>>34417039
yeah but there's like so little white boys in india. Almost non existent. So i assumed he meant the ones in USA.

Well for whatever its worth i just feel so bad about this whole situation. I mean they are so pressured into staying virgins that literally every indian girl here I see is ready to pounce due to their newly found freedom.

>>34417056
how disgusting

>>34413623
This

>>34413623
Let's have some sex then, bend over

>>34415893
You're not ruined for life but you can't in good faith ask a man to wait for sex now. You already gave not only your body in general but your fucking virginity away for free to a guy who had zero intention of staying with you so you've established the value of your sexuality at about zero. You may still be able to land a decent guy out of pure deception but in a world where people could tell what you've done in your past you would not have a claim to any man who holds himself to a high standard of behavior. You've limited your dating pool to men who have casual sex, and are now searching for a good man in that pool. Honestly just reading your account is making me squeamish I would be beside myself if I'd lost my virginity in such a way and had to face the nightmarish moral ramifications of my actions. I'm so glad I lost my virginity to a loving virgin partner in a long term relationship.

>>34417163
i do second your opionion, OP though has been decieved herself is now a part of the vast majority of girls out there who "potentially" have to lie to land a decent man. I mean this whole account of what OP has gone through is so chliche of getting pumped and dumped that i myself got a little irked by it.

>You've limited your dating pool to men who have casual sex, and are now searching for a good man in that pool.

100% I was once at a stage where a girl who I was in a situantionship with (who I respect still because at least she is a great engineer) however she had like 5-6 partners before and admitted to getting dumped after having casual sex with a guy from a club.

Well I just stopped right then and there. Found myself a good women after a few years. Very happy now. I just couldnt imagine that girl to be mother to my kids one day.

>>34417175
Yep, it's always safe to bet on offspring being like their parents more often then not, so if you don't want your daughter getting pumped and dumped by disease ridden deadbeats you'd better not marry a woman would would ever allow herself to be degraded like that.

>>34417175
>decent man
>man who cares about virginity
Pick one. Caring about virginity automatically excludes you from being a decent man.

>>34417242
He never mentioned virginity. The virginity is almost irrelevant here, it just emphasizes the impact of her poor decision making. This is about her giving her body to a guy who offered nothing in return, and the ramifications for requiring other men in the future to prove their worth to her.

>>34417242
Calm down roastie

Most men nowadays are fucking desperate so you won't have much trouble to find some beta that will accept your high mileage ass

>>34416110
An incel wouldn't want to fuck a whore at least not while thinking straight, of course if he's horny enough he'd probably give in and awkwardly stumble his way into any loose vagina but they'd hate themselves for it. This is why incels don't just hire prostitutes.

>>34417242
nope not saying that at all.

>>34417175
> now a part of the vast majority of girls out there who "potentially"

I said, girls who get decieved "usually"/"potentially" lie their way into a man's life. you can 100% date a great guy for a few months/years and still not end up with him because of whatever reason and after a fee years find a good guy share your past experiences mutually and end up having a good long life with him.

Dont care about virginity at all, did not even hint at it. How do you know my wife was a virgin before I got her. You just automatically joined "good women" with a "virgin women"

I am explaning the mentality of people who care about these things and lying to them is more dangerous as you can have a divorce for example if you had the misfortune of marrying a guy who gets butthurt on finding out you lied instead of working and coping with the fact that in the long scheme of things it really doesnt matter.

Ofcourse its all up to the OP to figure out if she want to "potentially" lie and live her life or just spill it all out before getting together with a seriously good guy.
Because as a guy myself I would like to know what kind of girl my wife was naturally and her having one or two good and serious relationships doesnt exclude her from being a good women if clearly her relationships failing was not her fault.

>>34417242
He'd care if you lose it in the same way slut OP did.

>>34415043
>I go clubbing
>the same dicks keep coming for me
I wonder why

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>virginity doesn't ma-

>>34417335
ahahha this is great. At least OP is at 1. Still there's hope.

>>34416948
Wait I got a question, why is it a good thing for men to loose their virginity but when a woman looses her virginity is a really bad thing? I have never knew why

>>34417335
they gotta get a survery going on in 2020s. My prediction is that it would be serverely low on the 1 and 2 since theres so many beta cucks (both moids and foids) clinging on for their marraiges not to fail.

if so, above woud kind of validate OP's view but at the same time historically virginity does matter. so that's clear.

>>34417371
The overall divorce rate is 40-50%, which indicates that 5 years is not long enough. Especially since anons seem to all want a partner for life.

>>34417368
because women are more emotionally attached to people with first instances. Like first kiss, first love of their life, first sex.

men generally just forget. women value these things themselves and naturally men associate virginity with emotional strenth or resilience of being a great women as a result. so many countless stories of women moping about their ex and actually fucking their current relationship.

Also men loosing their virginity is a good thing is CONSIDERED a good thing by the vast MAJORITY of women themselves, oh my the hypocrisy. being a man whore is also a thing though, stay away from them.

>>34417374
well there goes her chances statistically at least

>>34417390
>men generally just forget
Or become incels. A lot of incels are just men who have a feminine view of romance and intimacy + disapointment seeing a lot of women treat relationships and sex so casually.

>>34417284
>Calm down roastie
I'm a guy.

>>34417335
Virginity doesn't matter. Correct. This is what your chart demonstrates.

>>34417413
ohh man you are decribing my friend p perfectly.

Guy was so into doing the hopeless romantic thing he got depressed as fuck for 1.5 years before moving to <redacted country> and finding the perfect girl for him. He chased her all the way to <redacted country> and <redacted country> and finally <redacted country>. I heard they got engaged and are running a cafe together.

None the less the biggest incel I ever befriended with the exact -
> just men who have a feminine view of romance and intimacy + disapointment seeing a lot of women treat relationships and sex so casually.

>>34417428
>Virginity doesn't matter.

If you truly believe this and you are a man, please answer me something. It's a genuine question.

Would you date a woman that had sex or used to have sex with your father, your brother or your closest friend? (I hope you have at least one of those three)

>>34417442
dont know about >>34417428 but I am gonna answer this beautifully retarded question

I with all my sanity would love to tell you that this is by far the most retarded question I have ever had the privilege to call out being retarded.

there is not only no point in answering this question seriously but also no amount of answering will help OP establish >Virginity doesn't matter.

Wow

>>34417456
With the time it took you to write that you could have just answered it lol

I'm just curious about something, can't you entertain me or a bit?

>>34417464
NTA but it's a retarded question because the chance that any random woman has fucked any of those people is zero. Most of us don't live in a small village of 100 people.

>>34417476
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>34417418
>I'm a guy.
No you aren't, and if you are, you're one of those betas he just described, lol.

>>34417488
I don't understand what you're getting at.

>>34411370
Sex is sacred

>>34417497
It's alright. You are a precious boy.

>>34417488
not possible, she makes me eat her out every morning. One way or the other I am getting the fish for breakfast.

>>34417504
What are you, fucking gay?

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virgins for virgins
sluts for sluts
single parents for single parents
OP should just find a guy who also treats sex more casually and has already had a one night stand with a woman and they will be on the same page

>>34411275
feel bad for you.

you were gonna learn one way or the other. People in clubs and bars are not mostly looking for long term or even 2 day stuff.

>>34415893
I don't know about ruined for life but never tell your future boyfriends this anecdote it will give them the ick

>>34417368
It's not, men have their pair bonding mechanism diminished by it too, and end up unhappy. He also represents a flight risk to a woman who is selecting him as a trustworthy mate to raise their kids together. It's just that women also measure the value of a man by his apparent value to other women and they are evolutionarily unprepared for the modern world where contraception and a degenerate and atomized society allows for superficial qualities to reign supreme over true masculine competence and Jewish brainwashing has told them that it's "freeing" to allow themselves to be used and discarded by men for fun rather than to find a loving husband and raise a family together.

Also, it's up to women to enforce that standard, what are other men supposed to do about it?

>>34417547
>women also measure the value of a man by his apparent value to other women


Oh man FINALLY someone said it. this is what i meant when i said

>>34417390
>Also men loosing their virginity is a good thing is CONSIDERED a good thing by the vast MAJORITY of women themselves,

>>34417442
>>34417442
>>34417442
>>34417442
>>34417442

People of /adv/ please address this hypothetical scenario

>>34417442
>>34417557
I wouldn't fuck her, not knowingly

>>34417557
Just get your own thread and what is it with you regarding this unspeakbly retarded question.

i mean there is no limit to ridiculousness, you do what you want but here i gotta ask you how is this hypothetical question gonna help OP in any way

>>34417456
> no amount of answering will help OP establish
>Virginity doesn't matter.

infact no amount of answering is going to not establish if Virginity doesn't matter.

>>34417570
Why does this silly hypothetical scenario triggers you so much? Just answer it. An yes or no would suffice, though I'd prefer a bit more.

>>34417557
No, because if we're having sex it means we're in a serious relationship with plans to get married and have kids, and for the future harmony of the family it would be a bad idea to have that kind of baggage involved

>>34417583
Ok but what about the friend, it's not like he's part of the family

>>34417163
I understand what you’re saying. I know what i did was slutty but that’s the one bad thing i’ve done. I’m 21, out of all those years i’ve never had sex with a man once. The one time i did, it was while drunk, i’m not blaming the alcohol, i was still coherent but i wasn’t thinking straight. It was lust that i’ve literally never given into, until then. This was the first time a man had actually asked me out on a date, took me to see his friends, and took me home. I was excited. Men have always been very foreign to me. I asked a lot of questions here. Was i too easy? okay yes i can admit that i definitely was but when i haven’t put out before the guy lost interest. I feel like if i explained to a good man, a man who had high standards for the woman he got with and he couldn’t handle that id understand but i believe a good man is out there that would understand that i see this as wrong. What i did was wrong and that i grew from it. I wouldn’t lie to a man about this cause i wouldn’t want to be lied to either. I know what you mean but i don’t think i've limited my dating pool and i don’t think i can only search for men who go clubbing and fuck casually now that i did that. Im not a useless woman. I’m European i come from a very traditional household, i know what i did definitely wasn’t traditional but my hearts really there. If a man only sees my value in virginity then i wouldn’t want that to be my man. Yes i took one man’s dick but i can surely makeup for that with what i’d do for a man. I made a mistake and am mature enough to realize it and change it immediately. Sorry that was really long lol

>>34417594
90% of men on this forum are incels who would drop their standards immediately as soon as a hot girl gave them attention.

>>34417594
When you get a man you'll try to be more serious with it will gnaw on you how much harder you are making or him than you made for CHAD, and if you ever tell him that story it will gnaw on him too, even if he doesn't admit

>>34417599

yes these people are feeding on her(OP) so hard.

>>34417547
To continue, humans are not an exclusively r- or k-selected species. Our mating strategies vary between races and, critically, are adaptive based on the situation.
Women are typically operating in a k-selected regime of sexual selection wherein they search for a mate who they deem high quality in terms of genetics, social and technical/practical fitness and competence, and trustworthy. They do this because they carry a heavy burden in reproduction and want to make an optimal choice before committing themselves to a long and vulnerable pregnancy and motherhood.
However, women also have a capacity to fall back into an r-selected behavioral pattern where she attempts to present herself as an easy lay to a man with good genetics to tempt him to impregnate her. We call this being slutty, but it is a legitimate reproductive strategy (albeit one that results in social and cultural degeneration in the long run).
Women have been tricked into being comfortable in this r-selected reproductive mode because it confers a short term dopamine reward, and is beneficial to the Jews who want to destroy European society.

Fortunately, there is a counterbalancing force: men, who also instinctively bond with their partner and children to become a provider, are very sensitive to the threat of paternity fraud, since raising another man's child is very evolutionarily costly for the individual. So men have an innate disgust for women who display r-selected mating habits because it confers a high risk of paternity fraud. This is an instinctive disgust that dates back to long before humans had a rational understanding of how pregnancy worked, because people who were genetically more averse to being cucked had better genetic fitness. Unfortunately these days so many women have participated in disgusting sexual behavior so there may legitimately not be enough of them left to go around, but there is at least a restoring force that has the potential to end this era of degeneracy

>>34417611
We are just giving her the COLD HARD FACTS

If you want to be coddled, go to reddit

>>34417615
>since raising another man's child is very evolutionarily costly for the individual. So men have an innate disgust for women who display r-selected mating habits because it confers a high risk of paternity fraud.

never thought I would find someone who would mention this here. Glad people with a little science in them are still present here.

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>>34417594
Instead of preying on top men, just find a less disciplined, but *good enough* man. Someone who has also made similar mistakes will be able to understand you better.

>>34417599
Prob not true

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>>34417599
Not sure if I would do that if I were put on the spot now but back in highschool the cutest girl at school (it was a small school though) had a crush on me and we were kinda about to make it official but I found out she had been hanging with a couple of guys in the bathroom doing something and immediatelly stopped talking to her. Turns out I was right to do so she was a filthy slut, she eventually got together with another guy and would often take him to my soccer practice and make out close to my net (i was a goalkeeper). To this day I'm still a virgin and maybe my desperation would get the better of me now but my standards and hate for whores were rock solid back then. She was definitelly a 8/10 with an amazing ass.

>>34417648

Damn sorry to hear this but trust me you are way better off than getting herpes from a school slut.

that shit is chronic if ever some dumbass here says its not a big deal. HERPES IS CHRONIC and ALL SLUTS HAVE IT.

>>34417634
OP should just go for more promiscuous men from now on, for whom casual sex is commonplace

>>34417594
>I feel like if i explained to a good man, a man who had high standards for the woman he got with
How else would he react after learning that a woman obviously didn't meet those standards? He shouldn't be an asshole about it, especially if he was given the kindness of her own honesty. But that doesn't mean he should accept it.

>i grew from it.
Learning from your mistakes (a stretch to call a deliberate choice a mistake) doesn't mean you grow from them. It is strictly better for you to never have made that choice in the first place.

>i know what i did definitely wasn’t traditional but my hearts really there.
This is practically ragebait. The one thing that is guaranteed to piss almost everyone off is hypocrisy. Sexually open guys will be annoyed that you think you're above them/different. More conservative guys will be annoyed that you claim to have your heart in the right place despite apparently not even giving a shit where other dudes put their junk. Changing your mind afterward doesn't change what you did.
I put it in crass terms, but this is the damage your actions caused that the other anon was referring to, because the only way to "avoid" the judgement is to double down on what you did, either by becoming a liar or just by accepting that you're not as moral a woman as you'd like to think.

>If a man only sees my value in virginity then i wouldn’t want that to be my man.
False choice. Virginity is a byproduct of upholding moral standards, not the goal itself, let alone the only thing a guy would care about. Standards are boundaries defining one's dating pool, not the end of one's search within those bounds. What you did is proof positive that you not only don't value monogamy, but you also couldn't give that to a guy even if you wanted to You can no longer be truly exclusive; in other words, you're out of those bounds for men who value that. If you had any sense of what a "traditional" mindset was, you'd understand the difference.

>>34417648
I have a similar story, but in my case it was after HS and I learned she had sucked the dick of a guy I know.

And I was starting to like her, but when I heard about that my ICK went to the moon and all feelings died on the spot.

Anyway, I don't see the point in sharing those things. But I don't regret it and I wouldn't act differently.

>>34417648
Faggot

>>34411275

you should run an advertisement on your national television that you have now credibly become used and any good man out there who wants a chance at a very long lasting family give up if they want you.

>>34417594
It's not about virginity, the point would stand even if you weren't a virgin. It doesn't matter what you say or think or meant or feel. The facts are simple: you had sex with a guy without requiring him to prove a single shred of worth or dedication to you. That's the standard you've set. If you meet another man who you really like but you want to wait to have sex with him, he will be very hurt by the double standard you're applying to him. At the same time, withholding sex is the #1 tool of sexual selection in women to prove the dedication of a man. You've put yourself in a situation where no man is going to tolerate your use of what is supposed to be your most powerful tool for filtering for a good man. Again you'll probably lie by omission and might get away with it, or maybe you'll get lucky and find a guy who loves you but doesn't care enough about sex to feel protective and jealous of your past, who will just gracefully accept whatever he's given. But you're stuck in this horrible corner of options now. I don't envy you in the slightest, although I fear your situation is pretty common.

Here's a hypothetical: say you meet another guy. You really like him, and could see him as a potential future husband. You're not positive yet though, and want to get to know him more. He's starting to get handsy with you early on. What do you do to make sure he's serious about the relationship and not just going to pump and dump you again?

>>34417657
It's not a problem if you're sensible and get her tested. All this guy did was pass up on fucking the cutest girl in the school, now he will end up 40 years old without having sex.

>>34417749
>no man is going to tolerate
oh brother. don't listen to this drama queen, he literally exists on this board to spread this untrue nonsense cuckservatism that no one actually cares about in real life after high school

>>34417782
Perhaps tolerate is too absolute of a word to use, but no man is going to feel good about it. You honestly wouldn't care if a woman you know had had casual sex in the past made you wait an extended time to have sex? That wouldn't give you pause about the relationship?

>>34417782
>oh brother.
Lol, who are you talking to?

>>34417782
so lets say i am selling ice cream and give one out for free to the cute girl and then immediately charged the next one in line.

you arent gonna be irked by that. sounds like bullshit.

>>34417788
If you're modestly attractive then women who had casual sex give it up easier, not harder. If any woman makes you wait at all it's because they don't find you attractive.

>>34417800

not really, people with trust issues literally do this to the ones they adore and would like to stay with life. you are generalizing so much that it makes no sense at all.

OP will now literally have trust issues with men and will end up doing this to ones who she finds super attractive.

what has this thread even gotten to. stop generalizing and start thinking about real life stuff.

Casual sex is a psyop. Men shouldn't be seeking it and women shouldn't be spreading their legs so carelessly

>>34417800
I'm not a supermodel. I'm like a 6-7/10 slightly above average male with an impressive job and a lot of inherited wisdom. I know from the women I've had interested in me in the past that I have qualities that make me a quality choice as a husband and father. But if a girl isn't sure of that yet and I'm not as attractive as the man sluts she's been banged by in the past who spend all their time and money on looking good, she's probably going to make me wait for sex to make sure I'm not just after her for her body. Which she should do, except if she's applying that standard to me and not others then I don't want her. In an ideal world everyone would just only have sex in the bounds of an established relationship and this question would never even be pertinent. I don't believe chastity until marriage is necessarily the best policy in the modern era but it's a hell of a lot better than this clusterfuck.

>>34417807
>people with trust issues literally do this to the ones they adore and would like to stay with life.
That's beta bucks territory where you buy her shit while she fucks hot guys on the side. No sane man is interested.
>>34417811
>I'm not as attractive as the man sluts she's been banged by in the past who spend all their time and money on looking good, she's probably going to make me wait for sex to make sure I'm not just after her for her body.
You're just repeating what I said. If you're not attractive enough for her to fuck immediately, it's your fault, not hers. A woman who is 300lbs has to lose weight, not convince men to lower their standards.

>>34417780
>wait little HS whore, please give me a blood sample before we make out in the school's bathroom

lolololol

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>>34417837
You're worried about cold sores which 70% of people already have? Lol, you are such a geek.

I'm pretty unaware. Is what being said here common? Have this happened in your life. I never had a one night stand and wouldn't.

>>34417848
The data says more than half young women nowadays have had casual sex at least once. We live in a world of whores, anon.

>>34417848
Common for women and top 10% males

>>34417780
you are gonna get a HS whore tested? how so?

< listen here little HS whore, let me swab your pussy before we intermingle like two horses in stables(gym storage)>

get tested? where? in the school infirmary? < Hi HS nurse, this whore is my cumdump now. Please test for STI, heres the little cotton bud I rubbed off her pussy.>

what a retarded way to say "you are retarded" goddam