I'm well aware that asking a customer for her number is a bad idea, but what if you've seen that customer 3 times or more? In my case, I kept it professional throughout all three interactions and we only talked about an order she made. She told me to take one of the books she ordered, so I took the one that wasn't done correctly and that was that. I still remember her phone number, but I'm not a creep. I can't help, but feel that I should've tried act a little more casual with her.
if you're chad, go aheadhowever, you most likely aren't since you're writing this, I'd avoid risking a sexual harassment charge desuanywayshttps://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#MeToo
>>34411413cont.28% of young women now consider men even winking at them to be sexual harassmentWomen's definition of 'harassment' in online dating depends on the attractiveness of the manThe attractiveness of a male 'harasser' determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumaticAttractiveness determines perceptions of guilt or innocence in cases of sexual harassmentMen & especially ugly men are considered inherently 'creepier' than womenWomen permit 'creepy' behavior from attractive but not unattractive men27% of men report avoiding one-on-one meetings with female work colleaguesMen are equally likely as women to be victims of violent crimeAny sex a woman has while intoxicated can be defined as rape by a man under US lawAs many US men report being 'forced to penetrate' each year as women report being rapedMore teenage boys are victims of 'partner directed violence' than teenage girlsMany adult men are victims of intimate partner physical violence
>>34411413>>34411422This is... enlightening to say the least. I didn't want to risk losing my job or getting a warning a from my manager in case she decided to report me or if one of them caught me in the middle of the act. I just don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable. This has been on my mind since last wednesday.
>>34411405Ask her if she wants to hang out sometime. If she says yes, give her your number.Ignore the incel wiki.
>>34411588lmao
>>34411588It's kind of too late for that because our third interaction was likely the last I'll ever see her. Honestly, I don't think I had a chance anyway. She was just showing basic kindness, and that incel stuff may have a kernel of truth to them. The only way for me to contact her is by calling her, but that's unprofessional and weird.
If I ever get into this situation again, what should I do or say if I'm interested in her or another customer.
>>34413594>>34411588>>34411676>that incel stuff may have a kernel of truth to them.Those stats are cherrypicked specifically to demoralize you.
>>34411422Demotivational bait
>>34411676>she was just showing basic kindnessWomen are businesslike to strangers they aren’t attracted to, not kind.
>>34413706Yes, but I'm not an attractive man. It has been almost 15 months since I've had a haircut. My teeth are mostly straight, but I've got a gap between my two front teeth. I'm 5'11", but most women are more attracted to men who are taller than me. The only good thing about me is my voice because it's deeper than the average man's voice, but that's it. Physically, I'm a 3/10 skinny fat dude.
>>34411490I'm 35, married, very successful with women. Normally I never advise asking women for advice, but in this case it could be an in. Ask her for dating advice, like where to go, where to meet, etc. Do not indicate interest in her, and what she'll do, because that's all women know, is describe things she does and where she hangs out. She might even invite you out to a FRIEND gathering. Your goal is gathering Intel because you are a sperg that can't flirt, so you go out to learn how. You have to be cool, and she has to obviously be comfortable with you or you'll blow your chances of anything. Don't shit where you eat.>>34413772Yes, but be careful with this. OP doesn't know the distinction and probably has no game.
>>34413772Some people are just kinder than others. It's possible that her seeing me a couple times might've made her friendlier towards me, but I'm not the kind of person to believe that she might've been interested in having a conversation with me off of just that. Plus, the first time I called her about the book, she said she's at work, so I didn't want to waste her time with small talk or attempting to flirt with her.
>>34414513Any woman worth your time is going to be able to accept that you aren't a supermodel. You have a say in whether or not you're fat, also.I'm 5'11" as well and have to say that you're kinda getting in your own head with regards to height.You're probably very average looking. Ditch the out of ten brainworms; they will do you no favors.
>>34414527The problem is that she's already gone. As I said, my only way of contacting her is by calling her because her number is stuck in my head for some dumb reason, but I'm not going to call her with my cellphone or the work phone to set up a date with her. That's extremely odd behavior. I'm guessing what you're saying is that I should've tried to come off as casual as I possibly could've to see if she'd be willing to invite me to go out with her as a friend?
>>34411405I would give him my number the engineers are sexy
>>34411405>In my case, I kept it professional throughout all three interactions and we only talked about an order she made. She told me to take one of the books she ordered, so I took the one that wasn't done correctly and that was that. I still remember her phone number, but I'm not a creep. I can't help, but feel that I should've tried act a little more casual with her.i think instead of going straight to asking for her number, you should try and push the next 1 or 2 interactions to be more casual, u know?then if she responds well, ask herprobably best chances that wayi dare not read the schizophrenic bullshit in the rest of this threadgood luck OP
>>34414561I understand that, but I don't think I have any qualities that any women could find interesting. I say I have a pretty decent voice, but maybe only one woman between the age of 18-29 has complimented my voice. This is all on me, of course, so I don't blame them. I also don't think they'd want to date a guy in retail.
>>34414596They're tall, built like Greek gods, and are very intelligent. I am neither of these, but maybe the physique is somewhat obtainable after several years of lifting.
>>34414646I think so. Also your writing/typing style actually sounds pretty smart to me.Their hairless + pale + futuristic/mythic look is very beautiful as well I think
>>34414689>I think so. Also your writing/typing style actually sounds pretty smart to me.That's a first, but thanks. >Their hairless + pale + futuristic/mythic look is very beautiful as well I thinkLike a "what if" humanity ventured out into the stars and terraformed a couple planets or so, and this is result of our bodies adapting to space or the new worlds some us of inhabited. Then again, they're basically fathers of humanity, so it makes sense for us to be a chip off the ol' block
>>34414741Yeah exactly There needs to be more movies and media about mythical stuff like that, like angels too
>>34414757There's Avatar, I guess, but movies about angels would be pretty neat. It might be hard to separate them from God, which might be a reason why we don't that many movies about them. We also don't have much info about them except for maybe Lucifer.
>>34414597>you should try and push the next 1 or 2 interactions to be more casual, u know?If she ever comes by again, I'll try to be more casual. I just don't want to make a woman feel uncomfortable. I dread the thought of doing or saying something that comes off as creepy. Thanks.
>>34414579Yes, I'm saying forget about anything romantic because it can blow up in your face, namely you met her, while you were in the capacity of an employee so you want to avoid coming across as a creep. So your best bet is attempting friendship, and associating with other women like her friend group. You would be in a different environment, not acting as an employee, and avenues for casual conversation would be naturally available. Secondary, you would be able to get a better feel for her without straight up hitting on her in a way that would weird her out, "Uh yeah, I just kept your number from the order..."In a sane world two adults could have that conversation and move on, but in this world I'm assuming you don't have the tact.You would be communicating not to be invited out with her as a friend necessarily, but as a single dude looking for advice, and see what she gives you. You want to set up a lot more opportunities than asking, "Are you single?", would give you because that line could be a dead end.I'm 5'10" ~180lbs, hard labor physique by the way, and have bedded several women taller than me. At 5'11" you're well above the threshold of what women consider short. I'm also good looking enough that women will stare and check me out, so I have a few things in my favor. My wife thought I was homeless because of how I was dressed at the time. My point is, don't get hung up on height or looks. A calm demeanor, humor, kindness, CHARM go a long way. The number one thing women comment on is my charm. Being charming is a state of being, a way of life. Develop that and you're ahead of 99% of the population. Retail should give you lots of practice.
>>34415438This makes sense to me. I've heard that a lot of romantic relationships started off as platonic, but as you said, I shouldn't be thinking about romance. In general, how can I avoid being seen as just a friend? I know I shouldn't immediately tell her or other women that I find her or them attractive, but I wouldn't be want to be stuck in that zone. I mean, I'll accept it if that happens and move on, but I'm guessing that it may have something to do with her or them finding me attractive or not. It's still an opportunity, and I could become a little more confident with women afterwards. >Retail should give you lots of practice.Retail has given me some confidence, but I'm still a shy person, however, I've noticed the difference between when I first started and now. I do feel as if my job and my financial status would make me less attractive to women around my age or a little younger or older(mid twenties).
>>34414527For all of human history the wife helped the husband with labor. You should look for a wife where you work frankly.Your wife probably calls another dude boss right? I have bad news Mr. Good With Women. Lmao
>>34414579Yea leave it alone and hope she comes back. If not there are literal billions of women and the vast majority become unrecognizable fat bags after a while. Enjoy life right now bro.
