I just want to cry. I’ve been trying to cope with this, but I really can’t find something that I truly like or enjoy. I’ve tried multiple sports, activities, and games, but nothing has ever really caught my attention or interest.I don’t have friends, and now I’ve realized that all of my choices were made just to satisfy my parents. I don’t have any actual dreams, and I don’t even know myself. If you were to ask me who I am or what I like, I wouldn’t have an answer. I just exist.I feel like I’m an inept and stupid person who escapes reality to live in my imagination. I don’t like talking to people, and I’ve realized that life has no meaning and that I’m going down the wrong path. What do i do? Nothing seems to help fuck
>>34419399Life does have meaning, you just haven't discovered it yet. You're disillusioned with activities, games and other people because it can't be found in them, so it stands to reason that you're going to have to turn inward and find meaning inwardly. No one in human history has ever found happiness by chasing externals. They've all found it by focusing internally and learning how to see value in self cultivation.
>>34419399Life is really cool. You can play really cool games on your computer. You can go outside and ride your bike in the sun. Life is so great.
>>34419427He depressed>>34419399Try simple stuff like delaying gratification on whatever habits you have.
>>34419399 i SEE NIGGA COLOR
>>34419399>life has no meaningGod exists, therefore, life is meaningful.
>>34419399Spend some time doing nothing. Like just kind of sit around maybe listening to music if you prefer until you feel like doing something. Just like exist in that space with yourself until u feel ready to do something.Like fraud mental health people tell you to resist the depression but in situations like yours where all sense of purpose has fallen out from under you embracing the depression can actually be helpful in my experience
>>34419399Vodka
>>34420042My imaginary gf exists, therefore life is meaningful
Meaning is what you make of life.>all of my choices were made just to satisfy my parentsLeave your parents. Become independent and do things for yourself.>I feel like I’m an inept and stupid person who escapes reality to live in my imagination>God exists, therefore, go to heavenYou're not asking for a trip to paradise. What a good sign. You can surive the mud that is earth. Realize that life grows in mud.>What do i do? Nothing seems to help fuckLiterally anything. Life has no inherent meaning to hinder your options. Go aim for something that you want.
>>34419399Same, but lately it's less of depressive thoughts and feeling down, and more "fuck it" mindset. Like that Sopranos gif where the finger pointing guy says "yeah and nothin happened so what".I dream and idealize about events and things that would interest me theoretically, yet I don't do shit. If I really wanted to, I'd be doing it and since I'm just sitting on my ass, then sitting on my ahh is what I want to do. I was an outlier even at a few years old, it was pretty much dicerolled at birth that I'd end up like this (conditions, genetics, upbringing and environment, etc all contributed). If I want to do nothing then that's my decision and responsibility. After a certain age you might just fold in under the pressure and check out of the race - I thought even at 21, that I'll kms if nothing changes. Years later nothing changed, and I didn't become a hero, now I just don't care about the meaning of life, as simple as that. I might pretend to care, but I don't, and that is a very hard realization to accept, if you ever end up like that. Social concepts just shatter irreparably. Deleted lots of rambling here. This is just an example of what might happen if you don't find "meaning" in your life - you have to give it meaning, simply put.
There are people who think to live means you are entitled to all the little things everyone else has. Thats wrong. Don't ask what life can provide for you. Everyone on this planet needs to earn the life they want. You have to live for everyone. You may not like it. You may be the many people who think they are simply owed something. You're entitled to shit.
>>34419399>Interest What do you think interests you?>I don’t have friends Did you previously have friends? >I feel like I’m an inept and stupid person who escapes reality to live in my imagination. Are you willing to change that?Now my questionsHow old are you?Are you aware of what is holding you back?
>>>>34421603im 18 im a girl, and no idk whats actually causing this… Im willing to change though
>>34421603i dont know what interests me.. and if i actually did it wouldnt last long because i get bored easily
>>34421939>im 18 im a girl, and no idk whats actually causing this… Im willing to change thoughThe meaning of life is God, fly to my place and you'll see angels.
>>34421955>very religiousJesus wasn't religious, in fact he preached against the religious people of his time.>I want to actually enjoy living besides worshipping my creatorWhat do you mean by worshipping? Singing songs and repeating mantras/prayers?>i want to give a personal meaning to life not just religiousNo meaning at all without a creator. You can make things up, but the day you die, all the meaning you created vanishes. >What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?>One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.>The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.>The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.>All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.>All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing>Ecclesiastes 1:4-7
>>34421994You’re assuming that meaning onlycounts if it lasts forever but that’s not something everyone agrees on. Plenty of things we value are temporary and still deeply meaningful. The fact that they end doesn’t make them pointles it’s often what makes them matter more.Also, tying meaning entirely to a creator doesn’t automatically solve the problem. Even if meaning comes from a creator, you still have to interpret and live it yourself. That’s still a personal process.And about religion there’s a difference between spirituality, organized religion, and personal belief. Someone can believe in a creator and still want to explore life beyond rituals or structured worship. Wanting a personal connection or meaning doesn’t necessarily mean rejecting a creator it can mean engaging more honestly.
>>34422090>because it ends, it matters more.But what is this "more"? If a thing vanishes, and the memory of it vanishes, and even the one who felt it vanishes, in what sense did it matter? To whom is this weight measured? Where is it kept?You speak of moments made precious by their ending. Yet the grave swallows both the moment and the one who cherished it. The wise man and the fool share the same end. The lover and the forgotten share the same silence. What profit, then, was their fleeting joy?You say not all require meaning to last forever.Yet consider this: if it does not last, it is as though it had not been. The wind passes, and no trace remains. The rivers flow, and the sea is not filled. One generation praises the moment, and the next does not remember it at all.So is this not a chasing after the wind?You call it meaningful because it is felt strongly. But feeling is a vapor. It rises, it trembles, it disappears. Will you build your measure of meaning on that which cannot endure even a little while?And yet…Man cannot help himself.He sets his heart on what fades. He calls the fleeting beautiful. He gathers moments like handfuls of water, though they slip through his fingers. He says, "This matters," even as it passes away.So I say this:If meaning is only what endures, then almost nothing under the sun has meaning.If meaning is what is felt, then it is as unstable as breath on a cold morning.You say that because it ends, it matters more. The flame is precious because it will go out. But I say because it ends, it is all vapor. The flame goes out, and nothing remains.
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>>34422131>If meaning is what is felt, then it is as unstable as breath on a cold morning.Yep. That's the truth. Humans have been at conflict with this issue since the beginning of known human history. Be it sun gods, jews on a stick, cat gods, a hundred gods, no gods, an after life of partying, etc. people have always asked "why" and "whats the point." This question has lead to the rise and fall of many civilizations. It is why people live and die. The cold hard truth, though, is that you, I, no one alive will ever know if it was worth it. You can have faith, assume, hypothesize, guess, wonder and ponder, theorize, etc. but you will never EVER EVER know the answer of "is it all worth it." Anyone who says they know is either lying to you. The only person who knows is "God" and that is something you are not.So, realistically, all we have to go on IS our feelings. That IS our drive. That's why if we have a crisis of identity we find ideas, ideologies, and religions that help us find that identity. We go with what feels good. It's an extremely unstable and chaotic thing to tackle and the ultimate redpill is accepting that you'll never ever have the actual answer to this issue. At least not while you're alive.So basically you answered your own conundrum and the answer is an uncomfortable one.Realistically and honestly, we don't know. Most people cannot handle that fact so they do all the things I mentioned earlier to cope with this.Religion has its place, don't get me wrong. It's extremely important to human history. My take on things is that your meaning to life is what you make of it.Me? I want my bloodline to continue and I want to touch the lives of people who are alive now. I have kids and I've saved lives. To me, that's good. I want to make sure my kids grow up healthy and with a good financial understanding and a good inheritance. These are things I want and they give me drive.
>>34422495>but won't none of that matter? if you don't know then doesn't that mean its all for nothing?Here's the kicker. Humans are not robots. Humans have motions, drive, feelings, wants, needs, desires, etc. We are not engines that are lubricated and driven. We do not HAVE to be perfectly logical. In fact, most people know this. A gut feeling? There's no way to explain that logically but sometimes it just is and it just works. For me, this just is and it just works. This is enough to keep me going. I made my mark. I planted a seed. Maybe it'll grow. Maybe it won't. I will never know. Or maybe I WILL know. Now that would be neat.Someone who only always thinks logically or claims to is also just as dishonest as someone who says they know the whole point of this existence. They are selling a lie or a delusion.The human experience is just that, an experience. You'll have ups, downs, trails, victories, failures. It could be for nothing, but for me I value my life. It could just be because of survival instinct but at the end of the day it's what keeps me going.tl;dr religion is important and some people need it. i don't and it just works.
>>34419399>What do i do? sink or swimhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ&pp=0gcJCdoKAYcqIYzv&ra=m
>>34419405What a load of fucking bullshitYou say all of this from the comfort of: Your parents, friends, school/work colleagues, a girlfriend, her family, your siblings, your uncles and aunts, your cousins, the people you meet in your hobby groups, the friendly people you see on the street, at the store. You talk all these big words and YOU don't even look inwards to examine YOUR OWN life, you dumb fuck. Instead you preach to OP some bullshit about finding happiness within himself. You've never known fucking loneliness, you're one of those "ugh these people keep wanting to hang out with me / call me / text me, why can't they just leave me alone"Fucking klutz You're a clown>>34419399I feel you dude. A gf sorta helped with this but I still feel like killing myself a bit I just can't see nothing on the other end, no happiness. I'm hoping that by continuing it will somehow get better, but until then it's cope. Stay strong brotherAlso my gf is not my gf yet, we've only been seeing each other for 2 weeks, but seen each other the entirety of this week. It's good but still uncertain. Definitely find yourself a girl if you can, I found mine on okcupid, using dating apps. The worst place for your confidence, but if you manage to get something, it's worth it.
>>34422528im a girl i dobt wanna date nor use dating apps… Most of the relationships that originate fron those sites dont last forever (im not trying to say that urs is gonna fail at 100%) but thx for the advice.. really
>>34422495Let's agree on disagreeing. I need no other meaning besides Christ. I do want to pass on my genes and help those around me. These two are not mutually exclusive.
>>34422771Agreed. Ultimately it's up to you what gives you meaning, that's my point. Whatever works for you and keeps you from KYSing or moping around.
>>34419399If you explore you WILL find some things you like. Life may or may not be meaningless, and it may or may not matter, but nobody knows. You might have a personality disorder getting in the way of finding these things or opening up, but you are capable of LIMITLESS change. Change for good, and grow towards perfection, whatever that means. Now go! Namaste.
>>34422775>Whatever works for you and keeps you from KYSing or moping around.I love Christ, therefore I love life. I don't feel like killing myself at all.
>>34422789Good for you, my dude.
>>34422815>Good for you, my dude.Thank you, my chap. I hope you win the war you tell no one about.
>>34419399i wish i could tell you it gets better but im 37 and it doesn't. life is only good when some narcissist is love bombing you and when that ends there's nothing
>>34422495You know, one everyone on this Earth who remembers your existence is eventually going to die. Your descendants will no longer say your name and won’t even give a second of their day to give reverence to their ancestors. They won’t care because there will be nothing to care for. Your legacy will become this minute gene among a strand of thousands, millions, possibly billions of other genes. A fossil has a greater legacy than you ever will. If you want leave a legacy behind, your achievements have to perpetuate throughout human history. And no, conception is not an achievement because you put little effort into sex. There is a reason why many historical figures are revered like Gods. Their memory evolves into a myth that is told throughout centuries.
>>34422835so true
>>34419399>I don’t have friends, and now I’ve realized that all of my choices were made just to satisfy my parents. I don’t have any actual dreams, and I don’t even know myself. If you were to ask me who I am or what I like, I wouldn’t have an answer. I just exist.>I feel like I’m an inept and stupid person who escapes reality to live in my imagination. I don’t like talking to people, and I’ve realized that life has no meaning and that I’m going down the wrong path. What do i do? Nothing seems to help fuckget away from your parents, you already identified the problemu should atleast claw your way to self-reliance and live away from your parents for 1-2 years, before deciding to do anything drasticimogood luck anon
>>34423054i cant live without my oarents im 18 and they wont let me live alone unless im 25
>>34422528I have no friends and no family. I'm speaking from experience. True happiness only exists for the person who depends on no one. Complete solitude suits me fine because I have my own life, purpose and fulfillment. Anyone can reach this state, it just requires you to stop feeling sorry for yourself and actually develop good qualities.
>>34422861Yeah I kinda address that point in my 2nd post. I'm okay with all of that. I'll be forgotten. However I still made the marks I wanted to make. That's good enough for me.
