>>34441811
There are degrees of "having sex." Surely your idea of chastity doesn't forbid ANY physical contact. Most people with your values would draw the line at intercourse, but allow for the healthy expression of love and desire short of that.

>>34441820
Horrible advice. The minute OP starts touching vagina or the second the woman starts stroking his penis, no one is gonna stop. Nobody and I mean fucking nobody who ever wanted to wait until marriage has ever just done tiny bits of sexual contact and cut it off right before the penetration. That never happens because when you engage sexually with someone, all reason is lost. Your instinct and hormones kick in and the back of your mind takes the front seat. Sexual contact is a very powerful experience that most people take for granted and don't think twice about. Suggesting to OP to do a little bit of it is the fastest way to make sure he loses his virtue.

>>34441811
OP, stay strong bro. Do not give in, you know you hold onto waiting for marriage because you care about her and you love her. You value her so much that you think she is worthy of waiting for. That's the reason for the virtue, it is to honour the other person. If she cannot see that or respect that she needs to be told that kindly and to get a hold of herself. I was in your position once as a young man, my ex gf did that same thing, pounced on me and wanted me to break my own vow.

It's not from a place of horniness that the woman does this, it's because she feels she is in competition with your virtue. She wants to see which do you care for most, - her or your honour. She is being short sighted and cannot see that you want to hold the honour FOR her. To secure a marriage with her.

She is going to ruin this for herself if she keeps it up. So tell her with a spine in your back to be patient and to stop making those advances. And then hug her and tell her you do care and love her and go take her somewhere nice to eat or have a day out somewhere.

You will be a father soon after you marry, son. And you need to practice how to tell a cute thing "No." The woman is the first test in a man's life who will test his ability to be a father. She is not your daughter but you are the man.

things that never happened
people that never existed

>>34441927
It happened to me. And unfortunately I broke my vow. That's why I call her a. Ex-Girlfriend. She was vicious about wanting my virignity, we were both just teens. She would not take no for an answer and guilted me into the whole thing. I hated it and I would unfuck her if I could. I wish I could have just given that to my wife instead. It's not a haunting or life ruining regret, but it is still a regret and will always be a regret. A woman should ask herself if that is what she truly wants: to become a man's regret.

>>34441936
You disgust me. Giving your virginity to such a whore that probably doesn't even remember your last name now.

>>34441927
nothing is real.

>>34441936
>>34441811
The christian sect of messianic judaism is a very funny one

>>34441811
>/adv/, what should I do?
Considering she spent the night at Tyrone's house, and he stretched all her holes... I'd say break up with her.

>>34441967
She was threatening to break up with me if I didn't fuck her. Held the year-long relationship at the time hostage against me, and I fell for it because I believed her when she told me she had loved me and it was my first time trying to love someone like that and I didn't want to fuck it up so I gave her my virginity. I was a young idiot who could not see red flags for shit, dude.

Why don't you want to have sex before marriage?

>>34441811
>she whispers into my ear "Marry me soon then. I can't wait much longer."
She probably had sex with many other guys. So you will have to come to term with that.

>>34442057
>messianic judaism
The comments you marked have nothing to do with that, it has to do with Christianity, chastity is an essential part of it, even if you don't like it. You're an unbeliever.

>>34441927
Seethe harder

>>34441925
Whole generations practiced "everything but". In the 1950s, before the pill; in the 1970s, for fear of herpes; in the 1990s for fear of AIDS. People ARE able to draw a line and not cross it.

>>34442272
>Whole generations practiced "everything but". In the 1950s, before the pill
And many a bastard had come from that.

You can do it if you're ant but whenever someone says they can draw the line it just tells everyone "I have no idea where my impulses begin and where they stop". Human reason does not always win out every time no matter how intellectual that individual thinks they are. And sex is the act that not only puts reason aside, it throws it away entirely. The reason AIDs spread as far as it did is because the medium of sex is the perfect medium for that to travel, humans lose control in the heat of hormones and arousal with another person.

>>34442225
Why do you believe that, based off what you quoted?

>>34442272
Which led to a lot of young girls spending the year with that distant aunt that lives in the country, followed by a transfer of a mysterious package and a sum of money to one of the many baby farms for "adoption" aka post-partum abortion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_farming

>>34441811
>This is causing me so much anxiety.
What are you anxious about, exactly?

>>34442386
Isn't that obvious?
>Set a boundary
>Person crosses that boundary

It's disrespectful. Doesn't matter if she does it out of desire, it's still disrespectful because the sex isn't really about OP, the sex is for her, and that's why holding on to waiting until marriage filters these types of people out.