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I went on a date with a girl I’ve known for a while. We both really liked each other, we had so much in common, and the chemistry was incredible.

I reeeally fucked up the date being too drunk and she got upset and left early.

I talked to her the next day, she’s understandably still really upset and says she’s not interested anymore, I ruined her trust and I made her feel really stupid. But we were still on talking terms and after a few messages we were still making jokes like normal but the conversation came to an end.

A few days later I called her and we talked about everything. It was a good conversation and I asked if it would be okay if I asked her out again. She said “It’s going to be really difficult now, I’ll have to think about it and let you know”.

A week goes by without talking, I decided to message her. She quite clearly wasn’t interested in talking so I took the hint and left her alone.

3 weeks pass and I receive a message from her asking how I was, and she said “I know I said I’d let you know, but I’m still not sure what to say really (laughing then crying emoji)”.

I told her not to worry about it, I understand it was a really bad date and I assumed it was a no.

She said “Thank you for understanding. Glad you're okay and keeping busy." and the conversation ended quite abruptly.


Do you think I was right in assuming she was just trying to find a nice way to say no to me, or do you think she was genuinely undecided and may have been open to a second date and wanting to talk about it?

I was considering calling her just to talk about everything as I really do care about her, but I don't want to fuck this up any more than I have done already. Or is it best just to leave her alone?
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I think you should read this
https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
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If you're committed to fixing your fuckup you can try to cross paths with her irl, try to increase odds for that and have a normal conversation, if she tries to run away via body language or conversationally then you might be out but if she wants to stay and talk odds are you have a good chance to reset her image of you, but extra work will be required
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>>34442526
I can't answer this without knowing what you did.
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>>34445073
He probably groped her boobs in public, or worse
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>>34442526
Idk, the fact that she reached out to you unprompted is a decent indicator of interest. However, your response was low test and beta. I would personally stop talking to her at this point.
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>>34442526
Things are almost certainly beyond repair, here, I'm afraid. She wasn't just being polite, she's confused and distressed. She's known and liked you for a while, and was really excited about going on a date with you; but when she did it turns out that everything she thought she knew about you was wrong - you're not at all the person she thought you were. Under those circumstances it's hard to let go of feelings and hopes that you've had for a long time; you know you need to let go of them, but it makes you miserable doing it.

If you want to, you can send her *one* more message, which says, in outline: once again, I'm truly sorry for messing things up, and I swear I'm not normally like that; I promise that, if I don't hear from you, this is the last time I'll bug you about it; but if you do ever change your mind and decide to give it one more go, you can safely assume I'll be very happy to hear that!

But I wouldn't hold out much hope, if I were you; and messaging her more than one more time will start to look like you're going to stalk her. You're probably going to have to accept that you fucked things up beyond repair, move on, find someone else, and try not to fuck up again.
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>>34445200
>>34445141

Thank you, I do understand it's probably fucked.

Do you think I should call her, message her or wait to speak to her in person?
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>>34445426

It's been about 10 days since we last spoke, I feel I may have left it a bit too long now to reply to a text?
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>>34442526
She was waiting for you to end it off. Move on.
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>>34445426
>Do you think I should call her, message her or wait to speak to her in person?
The best thing you can do is stop talking to her completely.
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>>34442526
You made a clown out of yourself and now she's treating you like one. You are nothing more than entertainment now.
Drop her. She's using you. Let her off easy and on your terms instead of you dancing and hoping for her attention.
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>>34442526
Yeah too much alcohol is bad. Women may not be impressed by self-control but they're definitely not impressed by losing your shit by drinking too much, means they can't trust you to party. You can get blackout drunk after the relationship is already established so they know "that's not the real you," but now she knows that the real you is an alcoholic. It seems now all you can do is apologize and try to be better in your life about it. You can try acknowledging it to her, but from your post it seems she uninterested. "I know I spoiled things, I was anxious and lost control on our date, I would like another chance to be with you." Depends on what you actually did though.
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>>34442529
This is one way to go, reading a reason why you suck catalogue of copypasta.
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>>34445598
>why you suck
no, they're just documented tendencies
it's up to you to give up or just accept them and move on doing what you can
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>>34445426
Messaging her would be the least creepy.



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