There is a girl that works at the grocery store that is very beautiful and every time we see each other we make eye contact and smile. This has been going on for months but I'm too scared to do anything. But yesterday she said "hello" to me. mind you - this isn't a cashier or something, she works stocking shelves. there were other people in the aisle and she didn't say hello to them, so this is not just her being nice for her work obligations or something. I just said hi back. Idk what to do. Please help I've been posting on here for months and no one is helping me with this. What the fuck do I do/say?
>>34442655Go for it OP
>>34442655If its been months dude move on, shes working a service job she has to be polite. I swear this is why women are so insanely fucking hostile nowadays because just the simple act of smiling at someone invites an invitation to flirt with her and in general have control over her life in a relationship. Plus if shes even remotely attractive she already has a man or several men in mind already. I wouldnt, just because its going to put her in an awkward situation and probably put you in one too. Dont force her to reject you and then be scared of you possibly stalking her or whatever since you know where she works.
>>34442673wtf do i do?>>34442682you should kill yourself
>>34442655Why didn't you say hello months ago?
>>34442686I was too nervous. WTF am i supposed to say? I have no idea.and this is why too >>34442682>Plus if shes even remotely attractive she already has a man or several men in mind already.but going off of what this anon said why approach any woman ever. total slave mentality. why not just commit suicide at that point then.
>>34442682this guy should actually unironically commit suicide. you are a slave.
>>34442685>you should kill yourselfDont come crying to me when your dumbass gets rejected lmao you should have said something to her months and months ago instead of shyly smiling at each other. If anything all you've done is signal to her you are a giant avoidant pussy who doesnt act on his wants by being too anxious. To a woman, that is the single worst fucking thing you can ever possibly be. Being seen as a pussy to her is worse than being seen as anything else.
>>34442690If you don't know how to say hello to someone or start small talk then maybe you need to take a step back and work on your social skills. Not trying to sound insulting.
>>34442693>>34442685Nice same fagging lmao you know what im saying is true move on dude and act faster next time.
>>34442698I would rather be rejected than live like you- seriously, tell me why ever approach a woman ever with your mentality? Why do anything ever at all actually
>>34442701Because theres other women out there that arent on the clock? Dumbass? That are in social situations where you can talk to them and arent being paid and managed to be nice to you? Do you understand nuance? Your responses have shown me and everyone here you arent in the right mental state for a woman either, that much is obvious. Move on. Go find someone who isnt working her job.
>>34442707like what? a fucking bar? i'm in my early 20's. its impossible to meet women in their early 20's. where am i gonna go? and im interested in THIS woman right now not some skank at a bar. Did you read the thread? Why didn't she say hello to the other people in the aisle then? Why did she only say hello to me?
>>34442685>wtf do i do?Just approach her while she is working, and say something like "Hello, good morning! Where can I find X thing", then after she answers, compliment her on her appearance, your eyes are so beautiful, your smile is so bright... So on, only one compliment, don't be weird about it, if she doesn't react badly towards it, you can proceed and say something like "My name is X by the way, do you mind if I ask your name?", then you can make any comment about her name, and if she doesn't get weirded out, you ask for her number. It's that simple, needless to say, keep eye contact during the entire conversation, (don't forget to blink, but don't blink too much), and if she acts weirded out in any of these steps, don't proceed and move on, don't get cold feet, don't stutter. The most important step in this is if she liked your appearance, as you said, she smiled at you and tried talking to you at some point, so it means that she found you attractive or at least has some interest in you, what I told you is just a normal human interaction that anyone that is not autistic would be able to do. The interaction doesn't matter as much as your looks, if there's no attraction there's no words or behavior that could make you pull her.
>>34442717Thank you for being the only serious reply ITT so far. But I thought you're not supposed to compliment a woman's appearance when you just meet them like that? And this is like quite a chad move and I'm not a chad. That's the sad part. I think I'm autistic.
>>34442698>Dont come crying to me when your dumbass gets rejectedYou're a pussy, stop trying to demoralize OP, your advice is trash, you're saying:>just don't try it>you will be rejectedIsn't not trying achieving the same result as being rejected? FUCK OFF PUSSY! Life only favors the bold, and since you don't have enough courage to try it, you're trying to make others give up.
>>34442728Also when I saw her yesterday I thought I looked a bit desheveled I was in t shirt and shorts but usually I'm in nice clothing and tie when she sees me. I do not believe I am particularly ugly but I am not some chad guy either.
>>34442715Not just bars but through friends and other social gatherings. If you have hobbies that can help too. There is still places to meet women that arent this woman, sure you can approach her but shes going to reject you. Ive worked in retail enough to see this happen over and over again where women are nice to some guy in a professional way and the touch starved guy reacts like how you do and now she needs a male coworker with her when she walks to her car. Seen it happen hundreds of times in fact working at bars, retails, restaurants, etc. >Why didn't she say hello to the other people in the aisle then? Why did she only say hello to me?Because you keep looking at her and smiling, retail people are trained to help customers with shit, if a customer keeps signaling to them they are trying to get their attention, shes going to go over there since thats her job.
>>34442728Same fag, shut up.
>>34442736If a girl thought a creepy guy was making eye contact with her all the time, would she say "hello" and smile, or would she do her best to avoid him?
>>34442727>I thought you're not supposed to compliment a woman's appearance when you just meet them like that?Nahh, don't worry about that, just don't be creep about it. Use a light compliment as I said, don't call her hot, or compliment her body, compliment something that others don't see, that even she probably doesn't she, it will make her think about it for the rest of the day, believe me.>And this is like quite a chad move and I'm not a chadDude, you don't need to be a Chad for a girl to be attracted to you, of course good looks are important, the most important thing I'd say, but she already showed signs of being attracted to your appearance, you would only need to be a Chad if she was a Stacy, and believe me, if she was one, she would be making money off of her looks, if she is that beautiful, at least she doesn't know it yet and is not monetizing it, lol.>I think I'm autistic.Fake it till you make it brother. I think you will be successful, you can try training on the mirror, it's normal to be nervous, do you think that a great UFC fighter doesn't get nervous before entering the ring? Or a singer before he shows up to sing for millions of people? They all feel nervous, the difference between them and you is that they overcome their fears and try. Courage is not about not fearing, it's about overcoming the things you fear. You can do it!
>>34442741but just logistically how would it work because she's either walking around or stocking shelves and i am either walking around or looking at items on shelves. what happened last time is we walked by eachother - but wtf next time? if i go up to her that looks creepy and insane. idk what to do im so cooked. I think I'm going to be single forever.
>>34442740He hasnt made any moves for months so she is, for now, doing her job, since she has no proof of what hes doing or planning. For now hes just a customer, a regular, who possibly needs help with something. He could be gay or taken for all she knows. He becomes creepy or a threat when he starts trying to make thing romantic. Keep in mind, most young women today are also avoidant and anxious when it comes to relationships(thanks tiktok and covid) so she will further react negatively to it.
>>34442737>Same fag, shut up.I'm not, I am the same person that wrote these threads bellow. Not that it matters, I hit the nail of it, you're a coward, and you want everyone else to cower just like you, cause misery loves company. >>34442673>>34442717>>34442728>>34442741>>34442740She would definitely try to avoid him, or make a complain, she was def into him, lolz
>>34442753>>She would definitely try to avoid him, or make a complain,Exactly, that's what my sister says.>>34442752dude she's a fucking shelf stocker not a cashier or something her job is to unload boxes
>>34442746>but just logistically how would it work because she's either walking around or stocking shelvesDo it exactly at the time she is stocking things in the shelf. But, you will have to be very cold blooded, it's better if there's no one around her, this way she won't feel pressured into rejecting you.>if i go up to her that looks creepy and insaneIt won't, not if you use the excuse I gave you, remember, you're looking for something, and she can give you this information. She won't find it strange if you catch my drift.>I think I'm going to be single forever.Only if you don't overcome your fears man. As I said, I believe you can do it, even if she rejects you, at the very least, you will get experience, then you can make another thread talking about how to handle a rejection and we can help you too, but I think you will succeed
>>34442765so you're saying when im in the grocery store walking around - i see her alone on an aisle and i just go down that aisle? isn't that extremely crreepy? what if its an asile i dont need to buy anything from? i go down the aisle just to say hi to her? what exactly do i say just what you said before? I think I'm much too autistic to pull this off.
>>34442758>dude she's a fucking shelf stocker not a cashier or something her job is to unload boxesClearly never worked retail, stockers help customers too>>34442753>She would definitely try to avoid him, or make a complain, she was def into him, lolzNot if she just sees him as a regular. A lot of women are socially maladjusted nowadays, because like i said, covid and tiktok fucked up their social skills hard. She probably isnt picking up, at all, what shes doing. The entire thing is one sided and once he says something, then she will finally notice and thats when he will be seen as not a regular but just as creepy
>>34442655>she said hiYeah, lots of people do that once they recognize someone over time.Is there a chance she might be receptive? I guess. But do you want to risk getting banned from the grocery store if you're wrong?
>>34442769>- i see her alone on an aisle and i just go down that aisle? isn't that extremely crreepyDude, I don't see how this can be creepy, specially if she is into you. I approached many women just like this out of nowhere. Just make sure she sees you approaching otherwise she could get scarred and that would decrease your confidence levels.>what if its an asile i dont need to buy anything from?As I said, you don't need to buy anything from that aisle, just ask her for information, and then you can strike up a convo. Don't walk up just to say "Hi", ask for information after you said "Hi"/"Good morning/afternoon">what exactly do i say just what you said before?Yeah, it would be better if you copied what I wrote in the comment above.>I think I'm much too autistic to pull this off.Even better, you just write this on paper and repeat in the mirror till you remember each word and it comes out of your mouth naturally.
>>34442791what about what this anon is saying >>34442788>>34442775i dont want to get banned from the grocery store.
>>34442788>But do you want to risk getting banned from the grocery store if you're wrong?No manager would do this, unless he pulls his cock off and starts to jerk off on her face. The owner or manager won't want to loose a paying client.Really, you guys are trying to put obstacles in OP's life, stop trying to instill fear, let him grow.
>>34442797I just feel like if I can't deal with this then I'm genuinely going to be single forever. Like what the fuck am I going to do. How is a young man supposed to meet a young woman in modern America? Does anybody know?
>>34442797You arent going to get banned unless, as another anon said, you started like assaulting her or something, but you are going to make her uncomfortable enough that you will start seeing male coworkers of hers interact with you instead of her. Which will make you feel like a predator but whatever.
>>34442803>How is a young man supposed to meet a young woman in modern America?Do you have a father around you? Was he deadbeat or was he a present father? Maybe this lack of courage comes from something deeper than I thought. I already gave you the tips bro, you don't need to be ashamed to approach a women, I already gave you everything you need, you just need to approach her. Now your brain is creating excuses because it's afraid. You have to overcome these fears, ignore these thoughts. Do what I said and even if you don't get this specific girl, you will overcome your fear of rejection.
>>34442862OK. I will do it. My father was present. My lack of courage comes from having a similar mentality as the other anon itt. I am very blackpilled
>>34442867>I am very blackpilledI am very blackpilled myself too. But people use the blackpill as an excuse to give up. That's the wrong mindset in my opinion. What the blackpill explains is the chances in the dating market and how there's nothing you can do to pull a girl if she is simply not attracted to you, it doesn't say you can't get a woman if you're not Chat, it just tells you your pool is way smaller than Chad's pool for obvious reasons.
>>34442867Good lucky BTW, keep me posted
EWW. I know how you are you come into my store all the time with that Pokemon t-shirt. I said hi because you kept staring at me and that's how we're trained to deescalate creeps. Stay away from you fucking weirdo.
>>34442682Its because women have lower libido on average. Do your biological imperative or kill yourself.
>>34443239Its not that simple. Theres far more brainwashing and drugging going on here. Women today are not sane.
im so fucked guys i genuinely dont know what to do im never going to be able to get a gf or anything becuase im too scared to even approach a woman like this
>>34443352Well looks like i was right, you already know the answer shes going to give and even if she didnt reject you, your mental state would tank the relationship anyways. Work on yourself for a few years.
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>>34443300Never understood why women have an inability to rise above group consensus. Its like they're toddler.
>>34444091If you were biologically weak as hell and full of a chemical(estrogen) that makes you submit more you would also submit to group think in fear of dying
can someone please help me.:_(