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First-time 4chan post/reply. I’m starting to believe that women are genuinely nothing but a burden.

Had my first relationship at 18/19. I’ll admit that neither of us was perfect. She had extremely controlling parents who would track her using an app. In turn, I became a bit controlling and jealous of her parents and her friends that did get to see her. Ultimately culminated in her ghosting me a few times (Even when my mom had a hospital stay where she almost died). The end.

Fast forward to two and a half years of self-loathing, gym-maxxing, and “focusing on myself” (cope). A fat hoe with a pretty face DMs me first. Kick it off relatively well. We end up becoming one of these “situationship” things and fuck raw almost every day. Regret that I didn’t bust in her because she was on birth control. That being said, she became extremely attached and I had to cut it off when she appeared at my workplace asking why I wasn’t answering. Spoiler alert: I was working.

More recently, a uni classmate in the same club as me starts reaching out on social media. Would be my first actual “bad bitch”. She’ll text me asking if I did X task and start small talk, then ghost. I didn’t think much of it. Eventually, gets to liking all my stories and even replying to some of them, before ghosting. I go to a rave, and she slides up asking where I’m at and that we should meet. Fast forward, she’s dancing all up on me and BOOM, she kisses her guy friend. ??? I’m not a cuck so I left. She knew something was up so she starts double and triple texting. I told her how I felt and she said verbatim, “To be honest, I genuinely had no idea. I’m sorry if that made you feel uncomfortable”. BITCH! You’ve been leading me on for God knows how long, are you stupid? The first and only breakup was a pivotal moment in my life, but the little lead-ons and talking stages since then have proven to me that these bitches are just evil. How do I unlearn this? Or am I right?
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Crickets..
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>>34444741
You are wrong and primarily wrong for engaging in these weird zoomer situationships. If you want to be exclusive and monogomous with someone, date them, tell them you'd like to be exclusive. These labels exist so that everyone is clear what the expectations are. Also, yeah, don't be an insecure controlling bitch like in your first relationship
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>>34444872
I should’ve been more specific but there’s a character limit. The second girl was something that moved faster than anything I had experienced, especially after that dry spell. We were getting to know each other but she didn’t respect boundaries and it kept moving super quickly. We were “exclusive” so to say, but it wasn’t right, as she would constantly bring up being cheated on in previous relationships. I couldn’t see myself dating her, so I broke that off.

As for everything else, I’ve grown since my first relationship and I don’t particularly go out looking for these women. Both the chubby girl, this most recent university class, and others are the ones that find me.. I don’t go out looking for situationships just ‘cause
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>>34444886
Well, good, but I think this is still a problem of falling into situationships. Make sure you actually like someone and can see yourself together before you sleep with them. Getting physical so early leads to all these confusing problems
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>>34444886
>>34444872
Some proactivity is recommended. Especially if you're male.
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>>34444741
Have you considered getting involved with a normal woman in a normal way?
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>>34445264
Yeah, I have.

The first relationship was with a girl from high school and we were best friends for a few years before dating, so it made it pretty hard.

I’ve tried cold approaching a few times at my uni, but not much luck. I’ll get some numbers, but it doesn’t go anywhere or I get disgusted.

As for meeting women “organically”, I’m in a club at my university. I really liked this girl who was religious (I’m not really religious anymore, but it stood out to me) and seemed really cool. We hung out a few times before I confessed and she ended up going on a rant about her exes and how she wasn’t ready, just to see her going out with a scrawny kid with a stutter who is also in the club. Felt pretty shitty, but I guess she did it to let me down easy.

All in all, the sample size isn’t big but I’m not too keen on “putting myself out there” just to keep taking L’s and getting more repulsed by these ultra-progressive, hypergamous girls. Dating apps are peak repulsion for me and I can barely scroll them for more than five minutes; Definitely not a “normal way” as you say. It seems like even the most “modest” ones out of the apps are the same, though
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You are correct that the vast majority of women are irredeemable shit. Don't bother trying to farm coochie. Live your life, you'll run into half a dozen more relationship candidates before you're done with uni, if one of them works out, great, if not, fuck em, enjoy your life on your own.
I'm at a point where women being thirsty with me just pisses me off so no it doesn't get better lol



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