I am male and I struggle very badly with what I call the "NoFAP self loathing circle" where I try to do noFAP. FAIL. spend a bunch of time hating myself. Finally say "ENOUGH. I AM REALLY DOING IT THIS TIME!" try again and fail some more. Cycle repeats. What I am trying to do is develop a HEALTHY mindset towards sex and possibly masturbation. The main reason why I even want to curtail it is because I feel its preventing me from meeting a women to even start a life with. I was unfortunately a super coomer and I hated it because I felt that the coomer was driving all the time. I am honestly insanely envious of women because it seems like women aren't afflicted by porn addiction or even masturbation addiction like men are. When I was being a super coomer, I felt hideous. I don't think women feel the same negative feels from porn use or even masturbation. I could be wrong though. I am a guy. But you would very VERY rarely see women involved with noFAP. The whole movement is basically men. Why is that? Anyway, I just want to have a better relationship with sex and masturbation instead of always feeling like its just this giant demon I have to slay. I realize as human beings we have a sex drive and I don't want to feel like I have to kill mine because its natural to have.
just stop watching porn and the like and wank as much as you wantlibido satisfsction is a natural need, a hand is ok if you have no other alternatives atm
>>34449607Why is human libido even like that? Also, I was considering doing what you said but I just feel awful about masturbating. I think what fucks me up is that I can't tell if I am masturbating because I am horny or if its because the coomer in me is driving again. I can luckily still ejaculate without using porn. However, I will say the sensation of ejaculation is far weaker without porn. I want to be able to ejaculate as hard as I can WITH using porn but not using porn. I am not sure if thats possible.
>>34449619don't overthink it, I believe your confusion is a product of modernity's overstimulation
>>34449634Here is another question then. If I don't use porn and use my imagination, I am basically just imagining porno anyway. For example, I jack off to latinas with giant asses getting rammed doggy style. That is basically what I'd imagine also. So is this actually helping me at all or not really?
I solved this by allowing fapping on the weekend but not during the week. I eventually got a gf and now I hardly ever fap
>>34449650Do you ever limit the amount of fapping on the weekend then? I'd like to fap maybe 2 times a week. But I think even fapping once lets the coomer drive again and I slip up and fap like 3-5 times.
>>34449600Stop trying. You're doomed to fail. Masturbation is normal, natural, universal and, many would argue, good for you. It is certainly NOT a moral failure. Fap freely!
>>34449600>But you would very VERY rarely see women involved with noFAP. The whole movement is basically men. Why is that?Women aren't stupid enough to believe the meme.
>>34449642>I am basically just imagining porno anyway(NTA) Well, try not doing that. Think of a real-life woman you find attractive, and imagine a non-porn scenario between the two of you.
