I am conflicted on if I should get back on the saddle and try dating apps again in pursuits of an authentic relationship and strive for a real connection with a woman. I have read that apps are only good for the vapid and shallow not so much for the people with depth. Also, do you think when you fuck affects whether or not you'll end up in a relationship? So far I've had 1 instance blow up in my face by withholding sex till 3rd dateAnd another instance where it blew up in my face by having sex on the 1st date (was seen as unserious by her) I am just conflicted, lonely, and genuinely believe I would feel better overall if I had a woman that leaned on me that doesn't mind me doing the same when times get rough.I'm turning 27 soon and it's like I can feel the light slowly fading from my eyes as I strive to connect. I really need some help because clearly everything I've been doing just isn't working. I got good stats, just bad luck.
Only 20% of Tinder users report having had one-night stands from using the appThe Tinder economy has more inequality than 95.1% of all the world’s national economies.Tinder users have higher levels of the 'dark triad' traits than non-usersWomen rate 80% of men as "below medium", while men rate women on a bell curveIn sexually liberated societies, only women decide when sex occursWomen prefer men with high income and high educational statusCareer women are refusing to marry down facing a 'shortage' of equally or more successful menA survey found a dramatically higher median sex partner count for young women than young menMen's social status accounts for 62% of the variance of copulation opportunities93% of women preferred being asked out on a date rather than doing the askingThe top 10% of men get 58% of women's likes in online datingMen like 61.9% of female profiles, women like only 4.5% of male profilesThe top 5-20% of men (ie. "Chads") are now having more sex than ever beforeAverage women receive 15 times as many matches as average men on TinderTinder manipulates male profile visibility to promote hypergamy & maximize revenues from menWomen are more attracted to men who are already in relationships than single menWomen are prone to instability when they are more attractive than their male partnerBefore 'enforced monogamy', women's effective population size was up to 17x larger than men'sWomen bitterly reject unattractive men after facing rejection themselves by an attractive manA large survey study found no clues to stronger sexual motivation among womenAversion to having the wife earn more explains 29% of the decline in marriages
>>34452309Flippy bippy.
>>34452309That's great champ, but how does any of that help me even if any of it was true?I am tallI am handsome I have various skillsI have a house that will be inherited I got a big dick too (not by my words, all my exes)I may not have the best photos but that's cuz I'm a man. So what gives?
use apps don't let apps use you. Your strategy needs to be multi pronged. You should meet girls by going out, meet them through social circle or hobby shit, and also use apps. When you are not reliant on any 1 way of meeting girls you are ultimately going to be operating from more abundance even if you arent getting laid yet. Non-neediness comes easier and your game improves.
>>34452406Alright. Now we're talkinUnfortunately my social circle is kinda lame and know no women so we can rule that out.>HobbyMost of my interests are male dominated. However motorcycles might get me in more social doors than my other hobbies>going outI think this is where I really need to improve, I haven't found a solid 3rd space to haunt since covid. I'm like a chad who's fallen from grace.I've had a lot of sex, meaningful and meaningless. I do miss it. The feeling you get when you are loved.Thank you for your reply anon.
>>34452203>2026>dating appsThe mariopill hits extra hard in 2026.
>>34452405guess you aren't as high in the desirability scale as you think you are, you might be and have all you've described, but competition is extra stiff in dating appswhat you have is enough for irl approaches, go for them instead, blind dates or what notsI'd also work on your confidence, if a few stats are enough to make you go pissy, maybe there's a reason why you're being avoided
>>34452471The reason I'm avoided is because I lived a hard life so im a bit of a bummer Like, idk how to talk about myself without a bitch ending up in tears and I hate to make em feel that way but it's just my hard lived experiences.
>>34452491larp, kys immediately attention seeker nigger
>>34452496I'd sell you rope myself if you were able to afford it. Nobody here is attention seeking, I am telling you what the fuck I'm going through faggot. I've been spinning my fucking wheels and looking for outside perspective on a way to remedy my conundrum.
How old are you OP?
>>34452203>I'm turning 27 soonWell, I had not seen this part...>I got good stats, just bad luck.Tell us about that, are you good looking? How good looking? How tall are you? Are you white? Do you have light eyes? do you have a positive cantal tilt? Do you have a good jawline? Is your maxilla developed? Do you have a receded chin? How much do you make yearly after tax? Have you been approached to women before?
>>34452656I do not understand most of what you said but I'll answer what I do.>6'1>Whyte>How good looking are you?: I've struggled answering this question because I want to say I am but don't really have a lot of external verification to truly confirm this / I don't have a woman sticking around which conflicts with my perspective.>I do have light eyes that turn green when it gets darker>Jaw is good but I suspect I've broke or fractured it at some point hardly noticeable to others sometimes it flares up bad tho and my words get a little slurred.>No recessed chin>Annual income varies, if I had to put a single number on it it would be 40-50k>Approached by women before: Yes but typically only on apps. I did get approached by two women in person before but that was when I was with a former gf
>>34452833>I do not understand most of what you saidBecause it's retarded stuff we say on the internet when we're chronically online, it's a good thing that you don't understand most of it, lolYeah, your stats are pretty good and above average, I don't think you should be having problems with dating at all, at this point, I think that it's just a matter of numbers game, you just have to find a women with the attributes you're looking for (feminine, that depends on you...). How many women have you met the last month? You need to expose yourself, if you don't go much outside, do you have Instagram? It's a great place to find women
>>34452203You, like 90% of men, aren’t using the platform correctly. It’s not that they are for the vapid and shallow, it’s that it’s an inherently visual mediumThe advertising industry is geared largely towards women. They spend more than men, by far. They have armies of PhDs figuring out how to sell a specific product to a specific demographic. Now, say for example, a woman is flipping through a magazine and she sees an ad. She looks at that ad for maybe 2-5 seconds before flipping the page. The woman KNOWS consciously that the ad is a complete fabrication, the models in these ads are carefully chosen and dressed and staged in a way specifically to sell her a product. If there’s any words in the ad it’s a brief slogan or catchphrase or simple statement, because once again, 2-5 seconds. She knows all this but it’s irrelevant, the advertising works anyways, it’s been proven to work. Further, when I say “model” that doesn’t imply some hot Calvin Klein gigachad, most ads for mundane regular things are pretty average looking guys. It’s the context and the way they are presented that sell the product.Take all the above and apply that to your dating app profile. It’s not a profile, it is an advertisement. It SHOULD be staged, it should be engineered. Your photos should be carefully crafted, not to present yourself as who you are, but as who they want to swipe right on. Yes the women will know your profile is completely manufactured, but it doesn’t matter. How you stage and manufacture your profile depends on the person of course but there is a basic deck of kinds of photos that will improve your response rate. And yes, your profile is %95 your photos, very few women will read anything you write on it unless they’re already interested and in that case, less is more. Don’t word vomit a bunch of paragraphs, keep it super simple. A few sentences at most but make those sentences punch. I can elaborate if you’d like.
>>34452957Where do you draw the line between sincerity and superficialness?Alright, I engineer my profile.That doesn't mean I know my typeThat doesn't mean I know who I want to attractIf you lead with cheddar all you attract is rats. Definitely elaborate though, very interested.
>>34452534yeah, get yourself a better hobby than larping>>34453756OP, your answers are cartoonishly levels of silly, if you aren't larping, you must be on the autism spectrum>butcope
