>>34463773
Can you kill yourself instead of typing this essay? Pretty please? The only human waste in this story seems to be you

The thing is people can tell you that it should not matter until they're blue in the face, but you are the only person that knows how much you care and how much you are willing and/or able to try to change your thinking. If it's not there it's not there. Dating isn't charity and from the way you write about this woman, I imagine your disdain for her is sometimes palpable to her even if she does not know what vibe she's picking up on exactly.

The only real advice I have is to make a choice and stick with it. If this woman has qualities you like, she makes you feel good, you enjoy life more with her by your side, then you should make an active effort to stop indulging what ifs and theorizing about what her past says about her, means to you, says about her and so on. Then you should recognize that kind of thinking for what it is: a way to sabotage the relationship you apparently are trying to build, a way to undo your own efforts day in day out.

And if you go, do it deliberately, knowing you will lose whatever she means or gives to you, but this is the price you are willing to pay for the chance to be with someone more compatible with your ideals.

Staying with someone who isn't what you want and being resentful about it is wasting time for both of you.

>>34463773
>expect woman to be slut
>shocked that she is a slut
You got exactly what you asked for, retard.

>>34463773
>She let me cum on her face the first time we fucked
She did the thing that you wanted her to do and asked her to do?! My God, what a bitch. You're far better off with women who call you a disgusting pervert for even asking.

>>34463777
you will never a woman

>>34463785
thank you for the advice, fucking real

I am still thinking how much I like her and what not, we have a long-distance relationship so I only see her every so often, getting to know her better every time (next week I spend 4 entire days with her). But yeah, I get exactly what you mean, and I do ponder on that a lot

However it doesn't get rid of the fact that knowingly or unknowingly, it makes you a loser. Someone who got the leftovers from a better bygone era. I can see that when I see her old instagram pics where she did not have tattoos.

And in the other hand, I need to be realistic: I was an incel for 8 years, sometimes you cannot let a opportunity go past you. I like it to compare it to sailors marrying prostitutes back in the day: they probably didn't lie to themselves, they just knew the deal.

As a final note, yeah she probably feels the disdain at times but honestly, I think that attaches them to you even more lol

>>34463794
I didnt ask for anything, it just happened to me

>>34463797
I refuse to believe I am such a chad that she just lets me do it because I am just that charming and irresistible (it was also our 3rd encounter)

Rather, it is probably a sign of the sexual debauchery she has partaken in the past.Ask anybody who has fucked a lot of women and you will see. Its a fucked up world out there.

It's a matter of decency.

>>34463773
Brother are you genuinely retarded

>>34463773
Not even reading this larp

She's definitely a huge slut if she let you cum on her face that quickly. The sluttiest women aren't necessarily nurses or those who go clubbing every weekend. The ones who are absolutely starved of male attention are also primed to suck dick within a day of meeting a guy, which it sounds like she was. Extra points if she is a nonwhite.

>>34463817
Yeah she definitively was staved of male attention, I can tell that (same I was from female tho)

Can this be sustainable?

>>34463804
>However it doesn't get rid of the fact that knowingly or unknowingly, it makes you a loser. Someone who got the leftovers from a better bygone era.
Anon the thing is, you are a 'loser' in that sense if you settle for a partner that you cannot actually be happy with or see as a catch. That has nothing to do with any 'objective' standard. To put it kind of harshly, even if people start dating their exact type young, in time they will inevitably end up with a 'knock off version' of that person just because of the effects of aging alone. That is painless and irrelevant if you don't actually feel like you get a consolation prize, you feel like you are lucky enough to have this fucking gem that other people would dismiss for a pebble. Details about the appearance do not nearly have the same effect on your sex life as your overall attraction to their whole person does. But that is obviously not a way you can will yourself to feel.

I would ask myself what you like about her. If it's the standard things like, she's nice enough, she's (at least somewhat) attractive to me, she pays me actual attention... Then consider a choice out of desperation and fear you won't find someone else is again doing both of you a disservice and then it is better to part. But if when you look deep inside you find her to be a person that is especially beautiful in some way, especially interesting, especially kind, especially fun, especially sexy... Then try to ask yourself just how much you value that and realize that it is (for nobody) not nearly as common to run into someone you feel a real connection with as media make it out to be. I think even most people that have been in quite some longer term relationships would say there were only 1-3 they truly truly loved and for reasons like these (the quality of their attention or kindness, how safe it felt around them, how easily they understood each other's humor and thinking) and not for meeting specific standards or ideals.

>>34463804
As for the disdain thing, you could well be right, but if you are and it does attach her more to you, that does not bode well for her overall attachment style and general mental stability over time. So while that could work out for you in the short run it'll likely still produce problems down the line.

Anyway I'm happy you get what I'm saying and good luck making your mind up.

>>34463832
thank you Anon. I will think about your words and try to be logical.

If I am honest, it does feel like it's the "standard" things I like about her... I guess at some point I will have to be coherent and cut things for both of us but who knows, maybe there is something waiting down the line.

Such is the world.

>>34463806
In other words, your problem isn't her at all, it's your own low self-esteem. You think that if a woman is attracted to you, there must be something wrong with her.

>>34463866
Yeah, sort of

But man, that shit cannot be normal either you know. And all the other things I listed above are just telltale signs

>introverted insecure nerdy girl going to live in a student residence 500km from home

What good can come out of there, specially if she told me some dudes took (or tried to take) advantage of her (they were only a couple hehe)? And the boyfriend being a slob?

Sometimes the cope must end

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>>34463828
You're so retarded it's crazy. Cut this off if you want a long term relationship, use her for sex if you don't. This is not a wife material woman and you know it.

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>>34463890
>introverted insecure nerdy girl going to live in a student residence 500km from home
By the way, this just isn't true. I'm saying this as a neutral third party. How exactly is she an introverted insecure nerdy girl from your description? She has tattoos, and she's sexually active? Her body count, at its most conservative, is at least 4 from your OP. I don't know what your image of an introverted girl is, but she's nothing like one. As someone whose type is introverted autists, I'm actually offended you'd even classify her as one. Wake up faggot, you matched with a regular social butterfly whore who's pretending she isn't one and you're taking her word for it for no reason.

Introverted cute girls do not have a body count. Introverted cute girls do not get tattoos. She's not who you think she is, and you're so lonely you're projecting a false image onto her for no reason.

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>>34463899
yeah I admit my mistake, she probably is not an introvert but I wouldnt call her a social butterfly either. Maybe Im just retarded.

She got the tattoos after she left her bf because he was talking to OF girls (lol). Obviously, damaged.

And obviously I am "taking" her word, what else do I do? Make up shit? We are theorizing here after all

>>34463890
fuck

>>34463941
You deserve whatever's coming to you. At this point, it's on you.

>>34463773
>She let me cum on her face
I'm not particularly impressed by you either

>>34463773
You are just as bad as her mate, don’t think you’re any better because you’re a man. If you already fucked her after knowing such things you are just as degenerate. It is not a question of self resoect, you already lost that. So set your priorities straight. I would say stay with her, your probably gonna regret ditching her down the line in 5 years when your buying prostitutes just to have sex

>>34463773
She's like you in a lot of ways. She just wanted someone to love her. She was a shy nerdy little autist who wanted someone to tell her "I love you". And men told her those words and she felt happy, but then they pulled down their pants and brandished their cock and said to her "swallow it". And she was afraid of losing the love from them (she didn't understand they just wanted her pussy not who she is as a person) and she obliged them hoping to keep them around. But they ran away and ditched her, because just like yourself, they told themselves "wow she is a slut. She must be a total slut if she let me do those degrading things to her."

You are a retard because you are doing exactly what those men done. You use her, and she allows it, and you hate her for allowing it. If you hated is so much you could have just not used her for sex. You could either have just called the relationship off earlier, or you could have just tried to love the person beneath her flaws and mistakes.

But none of that means much to you. Because all you care about is
Your orgasm
And whether or not the girl who gives you that orgasm is the type of girl who doesn't give orgasms to men or not.

??? You realize how mentally ill that shit is? You want the woman to be your slut, and when she agrees to it, you hate her for it. ???? What is going on in your head OP?

>>34466402
>>34466410
your comments made me think too. I know I am flawed. Perhaps I should be grateful that somebody that somebody likes me to begin with

The despise however is not only from her past, but also the tattoos and stupid opinions she has on some stuff. It makes me wonder if raising kids together would be possible, since I fear the boys will grow to be soft fags and the daughters to be sluts

Its also my first relationship ever. If I break up eventually or something happen, I will take heed your words and put my priorities straight. I just didnt know wtf was going on (and its only been 3 months)

>>34463773
>Or should I accept the facts and accept I am a loser and have no self respect?
Chances are you're one. How do you even contemplate the idea of having a relationship with a ran through slut OP? Like cuckold father, like cuckold son ig as I bet your own cuckmaxxing daddy did the same and brought you on to this planet after marrying a ran though, nasty slut.

>>34466639
Ok. So you are not a bad guy then, that is good. I will be honest about my opinion on your girlfriend. Does she possess red flag signs? (Behaviours or inclinations that suggest a troublesome personality?)

Yes. But the thing about red flagged people is 9/10 times, those flags didn't plant themselves in their mind. It happened to them because they also met red flagged people back when they were innocent and they caught their social virus.

That's how it works. What normies call "baggage". Your girlfriend most likely has baggage, and baggage shows up in specific moments in the relationship, such as disagreements and especially arguments. Someone with red flags will be overbearing, or hostile or overly angry during those times.

If she exhibits those behaviours she is red flagged. If she does not it means she is not red flagged, but probably was in he past but she has since grown as a person

>>34466659
Your advice is genuinely retarded and too sympathetic. All that should matter to the OP is whether this has the potential to be a long term relationship or not. And the answer is a solid no. This is not a woman capable of sustaining a healthy long term relationship. He's also the worst type of person to end up with her considering he has no relationship experience and no way to deal with her.

Her experiences or reasons for being the way she is literally do not matter. Her life story is meaningless here. All this entire thing boils down to in summary is that she does not have the necessary character for a long term relationship with OP. This will fail.

>>34466666
Nice quints Satan. It's not so much sympathetic, it's realistic. And realistically you are a stranger in an imageboard who does not know OP or his girlfriend on a personal level. You don't know how she talks or how she acts, or how her and OP get along in private. If you insist you could know these things based on a little bit of text on a screen the you are kidding yourself.

>>34466666
thanks for the advice. However, I dont get the "necessary character" part? You mean she should have been decent and stuff? Since all we are discussing here is the past & personal story

>>34466676
>>34466659
In that case, I do need to stay more time with her and see how she acts et al. Next week I am going to spend 4 whole days with her (I think I forgot to add we are long distance, which in this case sort of helps) and then I get to know her better bit by bit

Your part about "grown as a person" sounds good on paper, but I find it hard to believe it can happen to women (you can call me misogynistic here). Also, it certainly feels like shit imagining the part of a dude telling her "swallow it" and you being the loser down the line. Its like I said, you can see she was cuter and purer in her old instagram pics without any tattoos

But alas, the facts are the facts, that a girl didnt look in my direction for 8 years. Tit for tat

I think I need to let more time pass. Also I told her explicitly at times how much I despise her retarded opinions and other things, so its not like she is being manipulated or something. She can leave at any moment she deems necessary. Did I mention she is also 1 year older than me (25vs26)? Jeez

>>34466643
you should kys

>>34463773
>She dated for 4 years a garbage human being (not like chad dumping her, but I mean human waste)
>>34463804
>you will never a woman
>>34466639
>The despise however is not only from her past
holy shit stop posting on an English language board you're not good enough yet

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>>34463773
As long as she makes you happy and brings something positive to your life, her past shouldn’t matter, especially if she genuinely regrets it. What really counts is who she is with you now. Do you enjoy being with her? Does she enjoy being with you? If you’re both happy together, there’s no reason to dwell too much on the rest.

>>34466732
>As long as she makes you happy and brings something positive to your life, her past shouldn’t matter
Prostitutes can bring a lot of positive things to your life, like sex. Would you marry one? Why aren't men going on brothels to find their wives? LOL

>>34466666
>Her experiences or reasons for being the way she is literally do not matter
>66666
yeah bro, just do what Satan said here, and marry a prostitute, her past doesn't matter, lololol

>>34466687
>you should kys
I would've were I in your shoes. Thank goodness my mom was never a hoe and my dad was never a cuckold who'd married a ran through hoe. I understand you wish to make your cuckold dad proud by being a proud little cuckold yourself anon. Keep up the family tradition. I would much rather choose to die virgin than choose whatever fate your cuck daddy had endured or what you're enduring.

>>34463828
sure, just keep her on a tight leash and play out all the freaky shit you've been wanting to do. You have to keep your eyes open and see if she has issues with commitment and performing small tasks to completion, as well as other behavioral cues. Just be observant

>>34463773

Fucking is fun and framing it as "being used" is weird. Your gf wouldn't be unique in the "good girl" to "got her cheeks clapped on the reg" pipeline.

It happens and people outgrow it and then they become who they are now for better or for worse.

You will soon find that either she is well-rounded enough that you can look past it, or her history doesn't align with your long-term values and you need to start searching elsewhere with no guarantee that the next girl will be a puritan.

>>34466687
>Your part about "grown as a person" sounds good on paper, but I find it hard to believe it can happen to women (you can call me misogynistic here). Also, it certainly feels like shit imagining the part of a dude telling her "swallow it" and you being the loser down the line.

Well I won't call you misogynistic since I know what you mean but I genuinely believe women can grow as people, in fact they are much faster at it than us men are. As men we are notoriously stubborn, we're strong-headed, that's a blessing and a curse. Because if a man becomes an asshole, he will remain an asshole for much much longer. Women are more socially adaptable than we are, they are the most likely to grow faster as people. But it's a blessing and a curse. It means virtuous women can easily be talked out of virtue and into dysfunction and promiscuity.

This is because men and women are different. And if are a man, and you claim to be the man you are (committed, virtuous, family orientated) then that is what she is going to be too. Because of you.

Women have always done this. Men lead, women follow. Or another way to look at it is, the woman is like the moon. The man is the Sun. The moon will always reflect the light of the Sun. So whatever lifestyle you choose to embody, that is what she will embody.

That's why nutting on her face was the wrong move. She now believes that's what you want so that is how she will be.

>>34466809
>And if you are a man*

And yes our stubbornness is a curse but it is also a blessing. A good man will remain a good man against great odds and at great costs. Women are not like us, but they do have their qualities too. Their adaptability means they are quicker to get out of shit lifestyles than we are.

>>34466743
Are you an ESL or can you not read the reply chain? I'm literally saying that she's a whore and OP shouldn't date her. The other guy is advocating that OP should care about her history and why she is the way she is and be sympathetic towards her situation and give her a pass. The past of a prostitute does in fact not matter, she's a prostitute, you shouldn't care and it's not your problem why she is the way she is.

>>34463773
Now as yourself, OP you want to be a man of respect and self respect right? Well look: >>34466820

This person is calling your girlfriend a whore. Now ask yourself: Let's pretend your girlfriend is talking to others, girls or guys who are strangers. And they tell her you are weak, a loser, a deadbeat who she needs to dump. And she were to listen to them and entertain their ideas. Behind your back too.
How would that make you feel? Shit right? So don't do that to her.

>>34466820
and if she stops being a prostitute and is a religious woman?

I know the case of a very religious, smart and well behaved girl who told her bf that when she was younger, she was addicted to cocaine and got ran through 3 dudes while doing lines (he broke up with her). Had her not told about it, you could have never guessed it.

Does the past not matter then?

>>34466826
A whore is a whore whether someone's calling her that or not. Notice how you didn't say I'm wrong.

>>34466826
Yeah I dont go around telling people my gf is a whore. To everyone else, she is the most pure & caste soul in this planet. I have only discussed this with 1 friend, the one I have the most with

But that doesnt get rid of her past, or the tattoos or the retarded ideas bruh

>That's why nutting on her face was the wrong move. She now believes that's what you want so that is how she will be.

Yeah okay I take that as advice for the next girl (if this relationship is over at some point). It makes sense, but I am talking about the present

>>34466831
I don't need to say you are wrong because reality is that you are wrong, I am not going to baby you and tell you definitions and nuances of the word whore, I'm not your dad. What I am suggesting is you don't care about OP or his GF anyway. You don't respect him, that's why you are so quick to disrespect his GF. If you had any respect for OP, you'd not be calling the woman he has feelings for a whore right in front of his eyes.

>>34466839
Absolutely moronic post. I believe she is a whore, and I believe she is bad for OP. I care more about him than you do, considering the entire thread you've been defending the girl and you actually want him to stay with her.

I don't respect OP btw, he's a faggot for even entertaining this. He has no relationship experience and feelings are clouding his judgement. This is the wrong woman for him, and even he knows it considering this entire thread is him struggling to deal with her being a whore. Literally every single one of his posts reads like he knows the right decision is to leave her and that there's something wrong with her, but he can't because he's an inexperienced faggot who's never had another woman show interest in him so he's struggling to do it.

Considering how much you're defending her, I can't help but think maybe you're projecting yourself onto her. Does it make you feel bad that all men inherently know that women with a bodycount and tattoos are not wife material?

>>34466836
>Yeah I dont go around telling people my gf is a whore.
And you truly believe she is?

>To everyone else, she is the most pure & caste soul in this planet.
Because they see who she is now, today. And not years ago in their daydreams.

>But that doesnt get rid of her past, or the tattoos or the retarded ideas bruh
The past gets rid of itself. You cannot get back Saturday 25th of April 2026, which was yesterday. It's gone forever, never to return. All you can have are memories, and you are lamenting about memories that were not yours. It wasn't (you) who got coaxed into casual sex at college, that was her. Which she was at the very least, honest about and told you.

Someone who intends to truly fuck you over who truly wishes to be an unrepentant 'whore' (whores get paid money for sex, so she isn't a whore.) then what they do is they don't tell you their past. They keep it quiet and they also lie to you about it. I've seen men glad and happy thinking they got a virgin girlfriend finally after all their searching.

..and they believed her when she said she was virgin. Only to find out she has a body count in the two digits, and of course the sting of noticing she cheats.

If you truly believe she is a whore, leave.

>>34466844
>I care more about him
>I don't respect OP, he's a faggot

Do you read your own posts?

>>34466852
>Cont
Seriously OP if you think she is a whore and you do not like people without principles or virtue or morals, consider this:

If you genuinely believe her to be a whore, and you spent this day telling people behind her back that you think she is a whore, what do you do when you close 4chan? And she messages you? Or you go to visit her? You say to her "I love you babe"? After telling others she is a whore, and believing she is a whore?

You don't think that would make you a liar?

>>34463773
No hymen no diamond.

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>>34466852
The roastie in this thread is defending this girl with her life because she sees herself too much in her and is mad she's not desirable to any sane male. Sexual promiscuity and tattoos are offputting to anyone who is looking for a long term relationship. You're trying to philosophise this woman and her past as if it matters. It doesn't.

I am going to keep it as simple as possible for you. A girl with tattoos and a promiscuous past is not wife material. Her circumstances or what lead her up to that point do not matter. This is all it comes down to. This is not a girl you should marry and date long term, OP. And as I said earlier >>34463890
, if you want a casual relationship, go ahead. Just don't go into this expecting it to be long term.

>>34466865
This is how I know you're a woman lmao. Sometimes a guy needs it told to his face. He is fucking retarded and needs someone to point it out because he can't see it himself.

Anyway OP. It's your life. I feel for you because I've been there before with my first relationship when I felt incredibly undesirable and settled for a woman I shouldn't have because I wasn't used to it. The truth is, if you've got one girl showing interest in you, you can get another one. She isn't special and she isn't good for you, and you can find someone better. I recommend that you keep fucking her for the experience and so you get better at social skills, but don't be too attached and keep looking for someone else. Good luck.

>>34466909
>I recommend that you keep fucking her for the experience and so you get better at social skills, but don't be too attached and keep looking for someone else. Good luck.
Yeah that's what OP should do. Practice psychopathy and use another human being for ulterior motive while lying to their face that you love them while just using them for sex in actuality. Very good advice.

>>34466921
For someone who supposedly has OP's best interests in mind you sure do seem to be putting a lot of thought into what would make his whore of a girlfriend happiest rather than what would make him happiest. I wonder why that is?

The guy has little experience and isn't used to being shown interest. Let him enjoy himself. A girl who lets you cum on her face during your first time isn't wife material but she's definitely a fun time. What's the point in cutting that off if you've got access to it?

>>34466931
>What's the point in cutting that off if you've got access to it?
Self respect, out of the desire to actually embody the things you preach. Instead of being a phony, two-faced and a liar even to yourself.

>>34466894
You retards are aware that almost no modern woman still has an intact hymen by the time she has sex for the first time, right?

>>34466909
>>34466931
thank you for being real. I am not attached to her, or at least I want to think it that way. For me it is indeed much more beneficial to keep fucking her and obtaining experience relationship wise than to cut her off outright. As I have stated previously, its long distance anyways so it doesnt take me too much time or resources to keep her

I dont think she was that promiscous tho, but men before me have used her. Like for example her previous bf of 4 years who made her take the pill so he could fuck raw and she got traumatized because of it.

Also I cant just go around fucking like a 15 year old, its ridiculous

>>34466937
look whatever you say. The guy above is right and you are philosophizing too much. And no, I say to other people that she is the most pure & caste soul ever, but people see the tattoos and the retarded ideas so they know whats up.

This girl should be thankful I accept her as a matter of fact. And she already came "ruined", its not like I did anything different to what other people already did in the past to her. See the bf example above.

No, used goods like that have no redemption in my books

>>34467023
Yeah, and marriage is a scam and a man shouldn't partake in it. The advice is still solid. If you happen to actually meet a unicorn, wife her up, otherwise don't engage in that shit.

>>34467026
>look whatever you say. The guy above is right and you are philosophizing too much. And no, I say to other people that she is the most pure & caste soul ever

This isn't philosophy, this is me pointing out contradiction. She was honest and told you about her past, you fear this may make her a bad or malicious person, yet you are the one who tells her you love her while telling others two different opinions about her. Behind her back at that. That's not philosophy that's a matter of reality.

>This girl should be thankful I accept her as a matter of fact. And she already came "ruined", its not like I did anything different to what other people already did in the past to her. See the bf example above.
Yes very thankful to have someone who pretends to believe one thing about her, to her face, and then another behind her back. You're a coward, and you are dishonest. At least she told you to your face what she had done in her past. She ironically has more testicles than you do for that, which is baffling to me because you're supposed to be a man. And no, I am not a woman myself, I'm an older dude. Your problem is you care too much about what other people think. This makes you weak, which is why you are allowing other men to call your girlfriend a whore and you sit there and say nothing, you even try to suck up to them. Fucking weakness.

Just dump her if you want to be honest with yourself. Otherwise keep lying to yourself.

>>34463773
>She let me cum on her face the first time we fucked
So let's face facts here, anon. You are the kind of man who wants to cum on a woman's face the first time you have sex. What this tells me about you is that you are the kind of man who will never, ever be happy with any woman who *isn't* a whore. Sure, you *could* find a woman who is still a virgin because she has an exceptionally low sex drive, marry her, have occasional sex where she does nothing except lie motionless under you and hope that you'll finish as quickly as possible, have a couple of kids with her, and then never have sex again for the rest of your life. You could do that. But if you do do that, you'll be miserable, because you're the kind of man who likes to cum on women's faces. If you want to be happy, you're going to have to find a woman who enjoys doing that. And *that* means you need to be with a whore, not a virgin. Think it through.

>>34466894
I agree with the sentiment, but you must understand that there are hymen reconstructive surgeries

>>34467026
>Like for example her previous bf of 4 years who made her take the pill so he could fuck raw and she got traumatized because of it.
It's just shit like this that makes me question how guys even fall in love with these girls. Sex is one thing, but she was getting railed raw and cummed in. You can't even pretend it didn't happen or that she had innocent sex or something because she told you for a fact it's the truth. How do you even picture a future with a girl like that?

Anyway, I'm proud of you OP. Honestly, you're a better man than me, the borderline whore I dated for my first relationship I was deeply in love with and ignored all red flags until she ended it to go hop on more dick. Broken girls are broken for a reason, if you actually caught feelings all it would mean is that you're setting yourself up for heartbreak with a girl that can't handle a healthy long term relationship.

>>34467043
>Your problem is you care too much about what other people think
Can't I say this is your problem? This entire thread you care too much about what the girl is going through and her life and what's the morally correct option so she is happiest.

Also, why are you acting like this is his long term wife we're talking about and he must defend her honor? This is a long distance girl he's fucking and he's rightfully unsure about. She borderline doesn't even count as his girlfriend

>>34467073
>Can't I say this is your problem? This entire thread you care too much about what the girl is going through and her life and what's the morally correct option so she is happiest.

No because I don't care about what you think. What I am concerned about is what's true and that's it. And what's true is OP has lead a girl on, she believes he cares about her and yet behind her back we have this thread where he has allowed strangers to call her a whore and more or less considers her a whore too. And I also believe he is two-faced too. He admits he tells others she is very nice, but also tells others (such as his friend and those of us in this thread) that she may be a whore. That is the definition of dishonesty and being two-faced. Can't respect it at all. Especially when he cares more about what other men think than what he thinks.

You won't be his friend would you? You already say you disrespect him, consider him a faggot. Let's say he breaks up with her, on your suggestion. And the thread 404s. You're gone, you don't give a fuck what OP has left.

>Also, why are you acting like this is his long term wife we're talking about and he must defend her honor? This is a long distance girl he's fucking and he's rightfully unsure about. She borderline doesn't even count as his girlfriend

The only two people who know what they count for is the guy and the girl. Doesn't matter what we think on the outside. And apparently OP calls her "girlfriend" but also thinks "whore". It's cowardly as shit, it's weak. If he was as principled as he pretends to be, he wouldn't have dated her in the first place. But he is lonely a d so he just wants to use someone as an emotional tampon, much like a bitch, to help him cope. That's the furthest thing from manly I can think of. You don't agree?

>>34467073
Not the anon but its simple. He is worried about something she is being honest about and insulting her behind her back while trying to make her seem like a bad woman all because of one text. He admits they have a good relationship and how she hasn't done anything yet that he considers bad. He is worried about her past and is suddenly jumping to conclusions all because of one text. He is worried about how she let him cum on her face and yet thats what he wanted as well. The truth is that he is a retard. Imagine getting a woman and she does what you asked for and then you question her past based on something she let you do because you asked. Complete dumbass. If she had asked for it that would be one thing. But hes the disgusting degenerate that he thinks he is above of. Regardless lf long distance or not, he chose to be with her and he seems to let a relationship he enjoys end over online people telling him she's a whore of all things. Retarded I tell you

>>34467073
And say, I do not find somebody else in the meantime. If I end up having a future with her, out of practical reasons (and perhaps even, she has had a "redemption" act, she doesnt give me trouble), am I still a loser cuck?

I will never lie to myself about the deal I got. Like I said previously, sailors marrying prostitutes

>>34467054
I did that because my mind is broken by porn and I didnt think of the consequences of it. Again, my first relationship ever. However, in retrospective, it did give me a lot of info which is good.

Going into the future, I will be more cautious about what I do and desire

>>34467160
>Am I still a loser cuck?
Listen to yourself, idiot. You're asking for validation from the one who called you a faggot. What kind of high school pageantry is this shit?

>Going into the future, I will be more cautious about what I do and desire
So break up with her, today. Don't go visit for 4 days. Do not fuck her, be a fucking man and stick by your supposed principles. Or if you think better of your weird broken pride and you decide to keep the relationship, stop letting people who openly disrespect you into your relationship with their opinions. Stop acting like a bitch who seeks validation from other men who clearly don't give a fuck about you.

>>34467157
nigger, I dont need to theorize about much of the past based on one act I did. I literally said how she told me how her bf of 4 years forced her to take the pill and fuck raw, and how she was insecure and starved of male attention and flew 500km to study far from home staying at a student's residence. Do I need to tell more or is the picture clear?

Its not only how many, which by my account should be around 3 to 6 men before me, but also how they fucked/used her.

You know how fucked is to imagine some dumb fat chud fucking your gf raw or the first broccoli headed zoomer pulling his dick out and telling her to swallow it just because she took advantage of her male attention starvation? Dont act like the past doesnt fucking matter because it does

>>34467160
Not the anon. How would you be a loser cuck by marrying her? Are you fucking stupid? Do you consider anyone with a previous ex getting cucked? Holy shit i know guys worried about these things but its too comical to be real lmao

>gave me a lot of info
>she does what I want
Yeah this is good info. But you see it as bad so unfortunately a retard getting info won't make him wiser

>>34467142
>You already say you disrespect him, consider him a faggot
Have you never had male friends at all? He's making a mistake seriously dating this girl. I'm giving him shit for it. This is literally normal. I wish I had someone in my corner to call me out for being a dumbass when I was making the same mistake as him.

He isn't even using her as an emotional tampon. He's just fucking her. What are you on about man, you've lost the plot

>>34467157
You might as well be the other anon with how much you're missing the point. He isn't jumping to any conclusions about her, he has a pretty accurate image of her past based on what she told him. You're acting like he has the wrong idea or something, when she directly admitted to him what her past was.

The second thing is that it doesn't matter that he asked for it. To me, her being willing to get cummed on during sex when he asked is whatever. It's the fact that she has tattoos and has a sexually promiscuous past. This just isn't a wife material girl and that's the most obvious shit in the world to me.

>>34467160
>am I still a loser cuck?
Just sign a prenup or don't marry in the first place. If you're that desperate for companionship and literally don't have a choice in the matter, sure. But don't ruin your life over it. I can also tell your mindset is a bit stunted from this one post, because you don't realise that you will be able to find somebody else. If one girl is showing interest in you, another will. This isn't some special 1 in a billion girl and she isn't the only one capable of loving you. You really need more experience.

>>34467179
>You're asking for validation from the one who called you a faggot
Dude, have you really never had male friends? At this point I even feel bad for you if you really are an old man.
>So break up with her, today. Don't go visit for 4 days. Do not fuck her, be a fucking man and stick by your supposed principles
Genuinely awful advice, the experience is good for him

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>>34467190
Brother these people are delusional. I can't even tell if it's bait. /adv/ is such a shit board it's crazy

>>34467194
> If one girl is showing interest in you, another will. This isn't some special 1 in a billion girl and she isn't the only one capable of loving you. You really need more experience.

I guess I do indeed. Its just hard to believe after 8 years of not having a relationship. But yeah, I do try to have very little attachment. How much she knows about this latter fact, idk but I think already said I openly told her I despise her retarded opinions and will actively fight against them + I dont like her past at all, so its not like Im just lying to her face

And also I already said but I think they can "sense" you just dont give a fuck and that makes them wetter. Fucked up shit I know

>>34467190
Yeah and you're still retarded. How are you any different from her past exes? You are taking advantage of her as well but somehow see yourself as different. You are just the same. Also based on her past she got taken advantage and you see that as "wow this bitch is such a whore, unlike me who would never be a whore even tho I have the desires of one as well" you're retarded like i said. If her past was some Bonnie blue shut where she purposely seemed out to get bodies or get fucked, that would be one thing. But she got taken advantage of and you admit and she admits it as well. She has you now and unfortunately you're just the same as her previous guys and use her because you are desperate as well. She has had at max 6 then you are 7th. Not even even that bad. Also if you are imagining your gf getting fucked raw by randoms then yes you are a cuck. Not because of her but because of your own insecure cuck mind instead. Maybe stop imagining what happened and realize that the one in her life currently is you. You get to fuck her now and she does whatever you want sexually. Dumbfucks getting their panties in a twist because they imagine some randoms fucking their gfs a few years back. Complete retardation

>>34463899
i'm an ***unattractive*** (and probably autistic, but i don't like labels) introverted girl, so not the full target for your appreciation per say

but i just wanted to say that it's so nice to read that there are guys that indeed like these traits ^^ i hope you find a cute & autistic introverted girl for you if you already haven't

>>34467194
This isn't normal, this is fucking cringe to watch in real time. A guy who openly called his girlfriend a whore, who admits he doesn't date girls he just fucks them, trying to give him advice on love and marriage. And the stupid coward laps it up like a dog and kisses your ass for it. It's gay as shit. And I've got male friends, and if they ever spoke to me like you spoke to OP, they'd no longer be my friends. They'd become friends with the dentist for that sort of disrespect. If you have "friends" who you allow to talk to you like a fucking dog who piss on everything you have, that's not a friend that's an enemy.

>>34467194
The thingnis that sure past matters. But lets look at the picture. He admits she had a sexually promiscuous past. He is dating her all because he is desperate himself. As in hes a loser as well who is doing the exact same thing as her but yet he thinks he is above it. He would be no different from her if he had women thrown themselves at him. He is not better and has no room to really judge someone who clearly had and still has some issues. And yet he does. He thinks he is above her but hes the same as her. He's a desperate loser who dated a woman he knew he wouldn't and doesn't like and can't even break up or leave her cause he is dependent on her as well. She used to crave male attention and validation and so does op. He is here asking what people think of him and wants to give in to the validation as well. It just seems retarted to me based on what he has talked about. That's why I said what I said. Cause its retarted.

>not wife material
I wanna ask why not? Is only a virgin wife material? I assume its due to her past then? I don't see how a past of getting taken advantage of makes someone unable to be wife material. Like I said if she was Bonnie blue and seeked it out and embraced that kind of thing then sure. But its a woman who had issues just like op and got taken advantage of.

>>34467218
how the fuck am I imagining if she fucking told me? You are the actual retard here

This girl does not deserve my respect, and the only way this works out is if I cannot find anything better and I just want to have kids. Then I play pretend, she still drools over me and society is preserved, I guess everybody wins???

You WILL NOT gaslight me into thinking this is some broken pure soul or some shit. Past matters and I will not lie to myself. I guess that is the difference between you and me: I know what I am and what I get, you will still get a ran through whore but pretend you got the best deal in the history of deals because of whatever mental gymnastics you are trying to pull here

>>34467253
>You WILL NOT gaslight me into thinking this is some broken pure soul or some shit. Past matters and I will not lie to myself
Yes you will, you'll do that the minute the next time you're with her in person. Watch.

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>>34467236
>i hope you find a cute & autistic introverted girl
That would make me so happy. It's been my type since I was a kid. Make her chubby, give her glasses, give her long black hair, and that's my ideal type and I would die for her. Sometimes I'm depressed then remember that they exist and my mood instantly gets better. Please keep existing and don't let the modern world ruin you, we need more of you.

>>34467253
Yeah I'm not the retarded here. Guess why? For one i don't need to be so desperate to date a woman I'm not into or look down upon. 2 I'm not desperate enough to just date whoever comes first and cope about it online to strangers. But sure I'm the retarded who will get a ran through whore. Complete mental retardation i tell you. The fact is you're the one doing mental gymnastics to cope about your current situation because you are afraid you will end up alone and unloved. So you would prefer settling and dating someone who you don't respect at all instead of actually trying to find someone you do respect and want to be with. You are the one worrying about her past exes and her feelings over him due to 1 text. You are the one who will continuously worry over her and how much she wants you and all. Meanwhile I'm will either find someone I want to be with or I won't. But at least I won't end up like a desperate horny and lonely dog who can't be away from pussy or a woman in general due to loneliness

>>34467276
Oh and I'm also not the one who admits to imagining my gf getting fucked by some fat chubby or broccoli haired zoomer. Cucked by your own mind, retarded

>>34467253
>This girl does not deserve my respect
>Hours later, he texts with her
>"Hey babe!"

I bet you even get anxious when she didn't message you within 2 hours. "This girl does not deserve my respect" and yet you call her "Girlfriend". Your head is fucked paste. Sort your life out.

>>34467276
I dont know where I mentioned texts? In any case I dont worry about her feelings for him since she broke up with him due to him texting indians on OF. I worry about her getting fucked raw by some dumb fat chud and then me picking up the tattooed leftovers

I am not attaching to her and I will jump the boat at some probably, unless literally nothing comes my way. Dont act like people in relationships dont get other people interested in them.

And also its about getting experience, both sentimentally and sexually. For me its a win, for her idk and idc either. I already told her how I feel about her in many aspects, she can leave whenever but she knows she is getting a good deal with me so that is that.

>>34467257
that I can only know next week

>>34467215
jeez, i'm glad you have self-respect for one, but i really hope you are wrong about that last part. i already know that modern women and men suck, but getting wet by your bf being careless about you is outright crazy. i'm a femanon and do not get wet by that, nor do i actively chase threatening/toxic men. i'm sure many girls outside the internet are relating, so maybe that will bring you a bit of hope?

anyway, if you even question a girls genuineness and capability to be a good gf to this extent, i don't think you should be with her in the first place. besides, a partner is the only family member you can pick, so pick wisely. that'll be my random advice.

>>34467300
You would be betting wrong and who cares about naming conventions on 4chin anyways?

Are you actually a dude or a woman? My God

>>34467307
>that I can only know next week
??? You can't know that now today? You can't have principles for yourself and stick to them? You have to play emotional peek-a-boo like a child? You already said you don't respect her. Why are you fucking dating her then? Just admit you want to only fuck her and use her exactly like the men used her in the past. That's all this is for you, you just want to size up to the men in her past. Just skip the middle and go fuck a man then seeing as you really want their validation

>>34467312
you're funny LOL

>>34467309
> but getting wet by your bf being careless about you is outright crazy

It depends. Its a different type of indifference, a "natural" one. Its very hard to define and again, it comes naturally. Even then, the guys I know irl who have the most success with women are pigs in that regard and couldnt give less of a shit. Its always those who *actually* care that get cheated on and ran over. The world is cruel and shitty.

>>34467322
>That's all this is for you, you just want to size up to the men in her past. Just skip the middle and go fuck a man then seeing as you really want their validation
Nigga are you okay. This entire thread you're philosophising everything and turning situations more complicated than they have to be. Can't a dude just want to get his dick wet lmfao

>>34467322
hahahahah you are ridiculous man Im laughing my ass off

>>34467307
Got confused by thubgs. Anyways everything else applies. You are worried over some random past exes and how he fucked her. Thats weird and very cuck minded.

>I'm not attached and will jump boat
Yeah sure you will. You are desperate as well you know? You were an incel for 8 years. People like you can't control themselves after getting some once.

>its about experience
So you are the scum you thunk you are above. Lmao. "I am with woman purely for experience and nothing more" you're are literally being the chud you fear. Dumbass. Also nice cope. All about the experience sexually? You disliked she did something for you that you wanted. If anything that tells me you can't even handle your own wants on a basic level. Any person actually looking for experience would go with it. Meanwhile getting what you wanted has made you question her entire past. And sentimentally? What you have shown is that you are a desperate loser who will get with women he hates and then make posts online. Thats all I see from this experience you got. Also if it was really about the experience why care and make this whole thread? Retard

>>34467350
>People like you can't control themselves after getting some once.
We will have to see about that. I really dont think its the case here (but yeah, cant say you are wrong, its usually the case)

>You are worried over some random past exes and how he fucked her. Thats weird and very cuck minded.
She told me my goddddddddd how the fuck I should not be worried????? If your gf told you she used to have a 1M follower OF accounts you wouldnt worry either? Holy SHIT

>Also if it was really about the experience why care and make this whole thread? Retard
I have gotten some real good advice that I can apply in the future. I was not looking for validation, but for applications in the real world. I know exactly what my situation is and how I will proceed, but I still need experience, which I what I skip over by having people giving me advice

But you must be a woman or some shit because it just doesnt get through your fucking head.

>>34467337
i guess that's believeable, cuz i (and possibly just every girl on earth) enjoy it when men get protective over us due to our submussive nature. but it's upsetting that some girls are lead to enjoy toxicity by nature too. anyway anon, would you want to become friends on discord? just that. i want some and thought i'd take the chance now

>>34467373
yeah sure why not, whats your name there? Ill send you a request

>>34467372
>if you're gf told you she had 1m followers on OF

She didn't tell you this you retard. If my gf told me this I wouldn't be dating her after that anyways. Cause I have no problem breaking up and being alone. Unlike you. So no i wouldn't worry cause it wouldn't be my problem anyways.

>I have gotten good advice
Yeah you have been told to not marry someone you dislike and not to date a whore. But someone like you can't help yourself anyways. You will end up in the same situation again and again because you want what a whore can offer, sexual experience. A virgin won't give you that. And you will complain about your sex life being with one due to that. No non whore wants to cum on some woman's face, you do. Also you have gotten basic as shir advice and some bad one. But people like you will only listen to "woman ate whores so just use them" type of advice.

>you must be a woman
Does it matter? I know people that are horny ans degenerates irl and they are at least more honest about things than you and aren't as retarted.

>why make this thread if you don't care
I like how you dodge this lmao

>>34467373
Oh shit! Can I add you as well? I want more friends too so

>>34467393
i just made a new account! it should be 3074436

>>34467396
sure! i just made a new account! it should be 3074436

>>34467252
> Is only a virgin wife material?
Not OP because I'm not a self-destructive degenerate, but yes.
>I don't see how a past of getting taken advantage of makes someone unable to be wife material.
Because the only way for someone to take advantage of them is through their own lack of morals. If she whores herself out, she opens herself up to being treated like a whore. Happened before, and OP is doing exactly the same thing again. One of the most attractive things a woman can do is say no. I.e. to have a spine and tell subhumans to fuck off.
>its a woman who had issues just like op and got taken advantage of.
"Issues" would be things like social anxiety. Not a willful disregard of moral standards. And if those are correlated, that's only a reason to be suspicious of the issues in themselves, not a reason to ignore the actions that followed.

>>34467449
Does any of this apply to a man as well or is it just women to you? Because if so OP isn't husband material. Not because of not being a virgin but due to how idiotic and two faced he is so far. But also how does virginity mean wife material? There are other qualities to being a great husband or wife after all. Would it need to be a full on virginity or low body count?

>willful disregard for morals
Nah issues as in isolation and loneliness. Its clear both OP and her are in the same boat. They both want someone to be with. Only difference is OP couldn't get woman while his gg could get some bfs before him. But isolation and loneliness are issues as well to an extent. And that also OP is an idiot and desperate.

>opens herself up to being treated like whore
This i can understand. And yeah a woman should be able to tell people know and to fuck off.

>>34467394
>I like how you dodge this lmao
He dodges it because that would mean holding himself accountable to his own standards but he has neither accountability or standards. Exactly like the type of woman he would complain about yet here he is, acting like a woman himself to get a sniff of pussy. It's amazing how dudes like him behave exactly like the archetypical females they claim to despise. Too pussy to say no to them, yet will act like the one above it all when it's pointed out he is being catty and two-faced.

>>34467492
>Only difference is OP couldn't get woman while his gg could get some bfs before him.
She's got more testosterone than him apparently, more of a spine and balls. She was able to be honest and direct with him about who she is. This guy wants to pretend to be Mr Nice to her face, but behind her back he is whispering to his gossip circle of male hens exactly like a schoolgirl would.

>>34467394
>>34467503
I answered that question on why I made it? Hello?

I answered all the questions and honestly, I dont think I can tell any more relevant details. If you want to blast me you can, at this point it doesnt matter

>>34467518
Your answer is just nonsensical. You came here looking for advice on a relationship you claim you don't care about. It doesn't make any sense to me at least. Plus like I said, the advice is mostly basic shit or mediocre one.

>blast me if you want
I don't have to and don't care much either. The type of person you are will get you blasted all on your own in the future

>>34467518
Man OP you really gotta stop engaging. It's an assmad roastie butthurt that sluts aren't desired. She's trying to shame you so hard due to her own shame. Just ignore and move on nigga

Also, you really gotta learn to spot feminine writing style. The bitches on this board are mentally ill. Don't even bother arguing with them

>>34467545
I'm not even mad lmao. Questioning someone on their ways of being or thinking doesn't always means someone is mad. But whatever. You act as if we aren't gonna see OP here next week after hus encounter with her anyways

>>34467545
Also I didn't it funny you say sluts aren't desired but yet I imagine you for one have been with slots in some capacity and 2 OP made a thread about dating and being with a slur and asking if she can be redeemed while trying to cope about the situation he put himself in to online strangers. You and many others talk shit about sluts and yet you are the same ones who get with them just to cry and moan about them online while also trying to act better than them.

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>>34467545
thank you fren, ill take your advice (I have returned to 4chan after a long time so I am not that familiar with whores here)

>>34463777
>>34466731
Why do women get so offended at men having standards?

>>34467797
OP doesn't have standards, if he did he wouldn't fuck or date the same women he considers to be beneath his standards. He wants to have his cake and eat it too, he wants the delusion if believing he is a virtuous man deserving of a virtuous woman yet also wants to use someone considers to be whores to get his orgasm. That's not having standards, that's being a phoney fake fuck who only wants to look like they have them but without actually living them. Not a single woman shot his ass down for the hypocrisy it was all men. One guy who called him a faggot and his GF a whore chimed in and OP fell to his autistic knees, mouth wide open "ughhuu please Mr. Please tell me.. I'm not a cuck if I date her.." became his personal bitch within seconds. Licked his ballsack verbally, talking shit about his own GF behind her back and tomorrow will pretend that never happened while lying through his teeth to her "I love you honey, good morning! Uhmm.. so can I see your boobies? I am a nice boy.. those meanie men used you that's not nice.."
Meanwhile he admits that's exactly what he wants to do with her. All he has left is to call his detractors women because he thinks he is being a big manly man for relying on pussy to feel good about himself

>>34467855
>>34467797
And the craziest part is if you call that out and bring up the glaring contradictions it fries his brain and he says "dude you're being.. too philosophical right now". Nigga thinks you need to know philosophy to be a consistent person

>>34467518
>I answered all the questions and honestly, I dont think I can tell any more relevant details. If you want to blast me you can, at this point it doesnt matter

You did and not a single one you want to be held accountable for. Do the right things grow some balls and just break things off with her. Stop using people to monkeybranch around like a teenage girl, and don't try to justify that weak behaviour by telling yourself it's permissible only because you think she is a whore while acting exactly like one yourself. You know you are two-faced and you are going to lie to her face by pretending to be someone else in your speech when you talk to her. If you want to prove me wrong, send her this thread.

>>34463773
any woman who likes cum on her face is going to cheat on you, don't trust her for a second.

>>34467492
>Does any of this apply to a man as well
Yes, of course.
>Because if so OP isn't husband material.
Correct. That's why I called him a self-destructive degenerate and also told him off here >>34463794

>>34467507
This is a good point, too. She has been forthright with OP and deserves a lot of credit for that. She certainly doesn't deserve OP's duplicity in return.

>>34468567
At least you aren't a hypocrite. And we agree OP is a retard lol

>>34468584
Can't stand hypocrites man. I respect good men or women who are goody two shoes and kind and don't whore themselves.

I begrudgingly respect unapologetic whores or whoremeisters who admit that's exactly what they are and make no apology. At least it's ugly honesty.
But fucking people who pretend to be the former but are actually the latter? Fuck that. It's so weak

>>34466687
>I think I need to let more time pass. Also I told her explicitly at times how much I despise her retarded opinions and other things, so its not like she is being manipulated or something.
New anon here, that makes your mindset more redeemable. Not liking her current views as well, not just her past. I think you're not so much a hypocrite as a confused guy trying to decide what to believe in and considering different points of view. Stay with her for those 4 days if you still feel conflicted and think something can change your mind. If you already decided to break up with her, then break up. You already got enough experience from that relationship.

>>34463773
She lives you
You clearly don't love her
Leave her and don't waste her time then
Otherwise you're human trash using her

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>>34463773
>She was insecure & nerdy out of high school and immediately went into a student's residence far from hometown where she told a couple of boys took advantage
That is not right, even if se did get raped by them (God forbid) she would most likely be inflicted with mental health issues. I knew a girl from high school who apparently liked me since primary school and we met through sport as she was in a different primary school and we were in the same high school later. I did not give her a chance because she did not develop and I felt she was not ready - she still looked pre-pubescant. I promised her to take her out on a date when she has, well, blossomed; I meant it with heartfully. The day came when I gave her a chance and we did a trial as I had experienced a very bad breakup the year before. She was great, I actually started to love the girl.

Her family got a matchmaker and a suitor for her. He came to the high school during recess to "see her" and I fought him daily. Her family obliged her to "entertain" the suitor and even her cousin appeared which I fought him too, apparently I was "interfering". He even forced a ring on her. One day I just stopped the trial. She desperately scrambled to get back with me and spoke with my ex-gf (the one with the very bad breakup). Basically, that ex-gf told her some very ill-intentioned advice: she told that girl if she let the guys in our year have sex with her at the same time I would get back her as I "liked it" (no, that is very wrong). She did just that, red faced, meant to be a "surprise" for me. Of course, I told her to never speak to me again.

She and the guys argued it was "just sex". The next couple of days they were trying to get her to do that again and she kept refusing with regret. One day they gangraped her, the high school staff and police were in a grey area of originally consenting and changing mind after. They kept gangraping her at high school before roll call and during recess.

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>>34470812
They threatened her family, kept gangraping her, she married the suitor and after high school they forced her to work as a prostitute. Her family contacted me through someone and asked to essentially have an affair with her. They mourned her smile that she had lost and said she was happy with me. That someone also told me that the girl wants to get back with me, her family wants me to pay for her divorce fees and to have an "open relationship" her. The gangraping, prostitution and forced married to someone that treated her worse than a prostitute, worse than an animal had afflicted her with significant mental problems. She cant seem to fathom a monogamous loving relationship.

The proverbial rabbit hole on the effects on rape can be very distressing, you have been warned.

For your girl, she may try to suggest an open relationship. It could be a peculiar way a person unconsciously seeks answers to their bad experiences aside from being reckless and careless in their relationships.

Please be careful.

>>34463773
>Can a girl have a redemption act?
Every human is redeemable, in theory.
>Or should I accept the facts and accept I am a loser and have no self respect?
Worry not about being a loser, worry about being a piece of shit. Being a zero is still better than being a minus one.
>She let me cum on her face
It looks like you both are fucked up individuals that "deserve" each other, if you asked and she agreed to do that. Although, relationships are not really about "deserving", more like you're on the same page, both of you aren't pure, but probably not too slutty either.

>>34467160
>I did that because my mind is broken by porn and I didnt think of the consequences of it.
How, in your mind, does that make anything any better?

Your mind is broken by porn, therefore you need to be with a woman who acts like a woman in porn. If you aren't, you'll never be happy. Think about that.

>>34467855
He has romantic standards.