>The public response
Elaborate.

i'm sure you don't have any bad intentions bro, it's just kind of inconvenient that japan is known for certain propensities in their eroticism and there's kind of like a dog whistle from the latest emoji release ["uooooohhhh"]

nothing you did bro-bro it's just there's a lot of damning context

if you want like a cool father-son adventure maybe try The Darkness 2, you are kind of a father figure to little Knobby :3

>>34471307
At first I thought it was like "you're a pedophile" because you want to play a game where a little girl rides on your back and jumps around but it's so much deeper, it's like they're attacking my soul
Go listen to them
Hasan Piker, Mary Morgan, Tim Pool, any random on the internet who's being critical of the game right now?

>>34471337
I found out my wife and I can't have children a few months ago
I've always wanted kids
But if I even smile at a kid while I'm at the supermarket I'm terrified people are going to think I have bad intentions
I just feel like a lot of societal pressure to be small and alone and to not want anything and that I deserve it

>>34471341
I’d rather snuff cigarettes out on my arms than listen to what any of those guys have to say.
I will say, however, that I’ve known Pragmata as the “lolicon vaporware game” for years because that’s all I ever saw in threads about it on /v/.

>>34471350
And it' like
>You're just imaging that
But this is like a giant smack in the face that it's true, like if an adult man likes being around kids I'm a pedophile?

>>34471350
>But if I even smile at a kid while I'm at the supermarket I'm terrified people are going to think I have bad intentions
If you don’t have bad intentions and don’t look like a creep, you have nothing to worry about.

>>34471359
>like if an adult man likes being around kids I'm a pedophile?
Of course not. None of us would work in elementary education if people actually thought this.

>>34471368
Maybe I'm just terminally online but that's what the backlash against the game is
I know I'm not bad
But what does that matter when everyone looks at you like that?
I don't think I can explain it, it feels existential, like I KNOW the reaction would be different if my wife asks to hold a baby and if I did

>>34471382
You are terminally online, anon.
No one in real life is going to treat you the way that keyboard warriors do for doing things as innocuous as being nice to babies and playing a video game with a child in it. Anyone who would is more online than you are, to a fault.

>>34471341
A bunch of nobodies on the internet hate a game they have never played? You don't say.

>>34471300
Nobody IRL will care unless you act/look like some obvious pedo. This isn't Little Sister Panty Quest 2, just don't whip out your dick while your looking at Diana'a feet and your good.

>>34471341
the fact that those irrelevant losers think that a game about protecting a child robot is 'pedophilic' says more about them than it does anyone else.
Diana a cute. Hasan a dirty muslim. Simple as.

>>34471350
>my wife and I
you shooting blanks or she's a barren wasteland? If it's the latter the solution is simple.

>>34471382
bro, just yesterday at the supermarket I caught a baby girl staring at me from her mother's shopping cart. First I blew out my tongue and blew raspberries at her, then afterwards I happily nudged her to give me 5. Her mother watched smiling ear to ear the whole time. I'm 35 and not a father.
If you feel creepy and pedophilic around kids then the problem is you.

>>34471300
Ignore it. Just play the game, it's a good game. I have a baby daughter IRL and playing this game has really felt like a conveniently timed celebration of becoming a father especially to my little girl. The people who are complaining about it are not people you need to worry about, their opinions don't carry weight because their lives don't carry weight. They have nothing except their own empty thoughts. That's why they hate the game, it reminds them of a milestone they cannot reach

>>34471300
> I'm a pedo, am I a bad person?
what do you think the answer is?

>>34471341
Why do you care what some retards on the internet say. Hasan is a champagne socialist who is only relevant because his parent are rich, if they weren't loaded with cash he would spend his day as a wagie. Mary Morgan is an trad thoth that just nods her dead when her podcast host repeat the same shit over and over. Lastly Dim Fool is a massive failure lolcow now, he had chance to be a journalist that is unbiased, with fame and recognition, and threw it all away for some pocket change from Russia and was sucking Trumps cock. All of these people are a waste of oxygen, in a just world they would be peasants toiling in dirt so don't listen to them.

>>34471350
Fuck sorry to hear that anon. Did you guys try IVF or maybe surrogacy?

The game is weird, there is no denying that.

But it is also a videogame that got licensed, published, put on shelves, etc, obviously at multiple points it was vetted and had investors, with their own families and daughters look at it and say "yep its fine" to go to the public.

If you personally have pedo thoughts/desires, that is nothing to do with the game, and you should not play the game to fuel those thoughts because you'll end up doing something bad in the future if you get carried away.

If you can address those thoughts, quell them, get over them, then play the game afterwards, then that's fine.

>>34471300
Zoomers are fucked, they're absolutely fucked. I thought my generation was the worst of all time, but zoomers take the title now. They genuinely think parenthood is pedophilic. They are so fucking done, they're going down as the most mentally ill and depressed generation in human history.

>>34471893
>They genuinely think parenthood is pedophilic.
It is in most of the world (3rd world) and even in much of the middle america.

>>34471893
Yeah sure you think Zoomers are so god damn dumb and depressed when they've learned that intelligence isn't the key to life but having passion is. Go fuck yourself.

>>34471893
>playing a videogame with a child in it is the same as parenthood

the only one fucked is you for thinking actually raising a child is like a videogame

Stop making this thread, goddamn.

>>34471854
>the game is weird
It's an anime game, made by a team of otaku who were given the chance to take leadership. Loli is part of otaku culture. I can't see Diana as anything but the promise of dedication and enthusiasm from that team, since they are willing to put their passions on full display.

>>34471382
>>34471359
The west has been culturally fucked by feminism and woke shit since 2012. Women are mentally immature and pretend they are perpetual children, so any kind of attraction is pedophilic to them. They have been blaring that idea on media for over a decade. Those streamers make that media layer their livelyhood.

There's a difference between liking something and be willing to harm people. Unempathetic people are drawn to the latter, while empathetic people seek external approval to get along with everyone. You will always lose if you associate with hateful wokeshitters.

And no. Liking the cuteness of kids is not pedophillic, it's basic instinct to rear the young into survival. Wishing harm upon them or using them for personal advantage is.

>>34472102
>Loli is part of otaku culture

You are not so stupid you think that the west accept it, or that the average joe is even aware of otaku culture.

Anyway, you made this thread asking is it weird, I gave you an out by saying that if you're thinking pedophilic thoughts, that's nothing to do with the game.

I can't stop you playing pragmata.

>>34471341
You listen to these eceleb morons?

>>34472201
Not him but I have not played the game. How "strange" are the parts involving Diana? From a first glance it looks more cutesy/wholesome and less like you know...

>>34471981
>the only one fucked is you for thinking actually raising a child is like a videogame
That's not what I think, stop having autism. If you can't accurately read between the lines of other people's posts then stop trying to make reads. The game is about a parental bond that the main character develops with the AI child. The core theme of the game is parental caretaking and protecting a child, and the gameplay is sci-fi resident evil more or less. Of course parenting isn't the same as videogames, idiot.

>>34471978
That's not called passion that's called impulse. Passion is not unrestrained emotions. The definition of passion is sacrifice, giving of yourself for a greater good or for someone else's wellbeing or a people's wellbeing. Parenthood is passion that way. Whining and bitching about seeing parenthood in media is the furthest thing from passion, there is no sacrifices, only vanity and cynicism.

>>34472268
>The definition of passion is sacrifice, giving of yourself for a greater good or for someone else's wellbeing or a people's wellbeing.

making up our own definitions is definitely based and quarrelpilled

very cool and disruptive way to make sure genuine discussion is impossible

>>34472249
>Not him but I have not played the game. How "strange" are the parts involving Diana? From a first glance it looks more cutesy/wholesome and less like you know.

There's nothing strange about Diana in the game. She just clings to the back of your jetpack and she served the player by using her hacking mechanics to remotely hack robots for you to tear down their defenses.

All of her dialogue involves asking childlike questions about life and the world, and the main character takes on a teaching role and tells her basics about life and sentiments about family or work or how hard life can be some times but his it's important to be positive.

And the main part of Diana is in the game's hub, she draws cute pictures for you if you talk to her enough. And you can gift her children's toys like a skateboard or a dollhouse or a TV or a set of crayons or a slide. And she will accurately play with them like a child and she gets all happy and shit. You can also play hide and seek with her too.

There's never a single instance of anything lewd or sexual or inappropriate the entire game. The only people who think that are the people criticizing the game. Because for some (weird reason) the minute they see a little girl in a game they think it's pedophilic. (Which implies they are the ones who associate children with sex).

>>34472279
No that's what passion is. It comes from Latin "Passio" which means "to suffer". Passion is when you suffer for something for a greater good. And because parenthood is hard and involves suffering for the parents, (child birth, sleepless nights, screaming children, working overtime to keep them fed) we can say parenthood is passion, 100% because parents do all of this for the greater good or helping a child know security and happiness.

That's why Pragmata strikes a chord with people who played it especially players who have kids of their own. But again, for some retarded reason zoomers are shitting themselves about lolis and pedos and whether or not men can desire fatherhood without it being pedophilic.

The fuck is with your zoomer generation? Did you all get molested or some shit?

>>34472201
The higher ups didn't plan a game "for the west". They threw a bone to a small team and later realized how big the idea was. Trailer has her in spats and sneaking around as a naked silhouette, that design was the main selling point, going full parent was the twist. That's art right there. This is Leonardo daVinci levels of mastery.

>>34472249
She's bare-footed, she puts circuit boards in her mouth and "sucks" on them, she looks like an uncanny valley doll, her eyelashes and lips are sus looking.

The community itself has paraded memes about lolicon, they and the developers are fully aware of the kind of attention they are catering to.

>>34472290
>There's never a single instance of anything lewd or sexual or inappropriate the entire game. The only people who think that are the people criticizing the game. Because for some (weird reason) the minute they see a little girl in a game they think it's pedophilic. (Which implies they are the ones who associate children with sex).

If the fact this guy is for absolutely no reason, getting so buttmad he is in fact telling OTHER people who dislike the game that they are the ones who are pedofiles doesn't raise questions in your mind I don't know what to tell you.

Shut the fuck up, you made this thread you fucking pedo freak, nobody else but YOU wanted to talk about children.

>>34472311
Clearly you have some fetish for rotting away in prison.

What I don't understand is why you aren't playing the game and instead made a thread to talk about how much of a not-pedo you are and that other people responding to you must be the real pedos.

When nobody asked.

>>34472313
>She's bare-footed
So what? I don't find feet to be attractive, and if I did, I would not be looking at little girls feet. Adult women have asses and legs. Do you look at children's ass the same way you look at their feet? The fuck is your weird logic?

>She puts circuit boards in her mouth and sucks on them
So what? Kids suck straws when drinking orange juice. Why do you automatically think of blowjobs?

>Her eyelashes and lips are sus looking.
You mean you find her attractive that's what you're saying.

I'm not the OP. And you don't get to call anyone a pedo freak you just indirectly admitted you focus on her feet and you instantly think of blowjobs when a little girl sucks an object.

Please never have children. Babies suck objects all the time when they are teething. Someone like you would look at a baby and imagine blowjobs. You're weird as fuck

>>34472313
>bare-footed
Is that bad? I'm not a footfag so idk.
>circuit boards in her mouth and "sucks" on them
Is it a fellatio motion or is it like eating those yogurt or apple sauce pouches that I can't remember the name of. If the former then hell no if the latter then idk that sounds fine.
>Uncanny valley doll + sus eyelashes and lips
Are they? I find the sf6 faces uncanny but that just feels like a unappealing look and not really a sexual thing.
I did hear about the community thing like certain subreddits being banned and yeah that's fucked. I think there is nothing you can do about it since they will sexualize any child in any game. Just have to not associate with it because realistically what can you do? To me it seems that the game itself seems alright but the community is awful, so like an extreme version of other games with decent gameplay and an awful fanbase. Is the actual gameplay any good?

>>34472345
>Is it a fellatio motion or is it like eating those yogurt or apple sauce pouches that I can't remember the name of. If the former then hell no if the latter then idk that sounds fine.
It's not a fellatio thing at all, she hits the memory card like a vape. The first thing I thought when she sucked the ram drive was "lmao she is gonna vape that shit"

It's starting to make sense now why so many zoomers are thinking of blowjobs. Most of them are porn addicts

>>34472343
>>34472345
>>34472348
Go speak to a therapist you pedo freak.

>>34472345
Dude look at the people in this thread, the game is pandering to the worst people in society.

>>34472351
You just admitted you think children putting an object in their mouth visually reminds you of blowjobs. How about you go speak to the shrink? You have any idea how many times children put objects into their mouth? How many times parents have to prevent choking hazards? And all you can come up with is "its a blowjob! Blowjob reference!)

You just told on yourself that you are the one who sexualizes this shit.

>>34472348
Alright, that sounds fine. This whole fiasco sounds more like problem with certain people rather than a problem with the game itself.

>>34472351
What do you mean? I'm not OP or the other guy if that's what you are implying. I just wanted to know because I heard about the game and the drama on /v/ and wanted to know what was going on.

>>34472359
>You just admitted you think children putting an object in their mouth visually reminds you of blowjobs.

No I didn't, you made that up because you cannot handle the narcissistic injury of somebody pointing out you're a pedo.

Which is something YOU should speak to a therapist about because you're one step away from having a fucking tard meltdown.

>>34472361
>Alright, that sounds fine. This whole fiasco sounds more like problem with certain people rather than a problem with the game itself.
It's a problem with people who hate their fathers and closet-pedos. Closet pedophiles always pretend to be anti-pedo to keep attention away from themselves. Pragmata fiasco is amazing because it's forced the actual pedos to mask off and say weird shit like "but she's barefoot! This is sexual! "

>>34472361
>I just wanted to know because I heard about the game and the drama on /v/ and wanted to know what was going on.

I haven't played the game, I've avoided looking at it because I think it's weird as fuck and the game has made several nods to lolicon which to me, is even more fucked up.

>>34472372
You can't just call people pedos because you don't like them.

Never played pedo-mata btw enjoy your pedo game, pedofile.

>>34472366
>Narcissistic injury
Nice quora buzzword. You find a little girl's feet to be sexual and you think when a little girl has an object in her mouth it's a blowjob reference. That's what you revealed

>>34472383
You're talking about childrens feet, sounds like you're the pedo.

Also clearly being called a narcissist hit a nerve, again, sounds like i'm right after all.

>>34472390
Stay away from kids

>>34472393
When the cops get your name you'll legally never be allowed near them.

>>34472373
>I haven't played the game
>Here is my opinion on something I haven't played

>>34472398
Uh huh. Or yours, since you admitted you find a little girl to be sexualized. You admitted that. You think her feet are sexual objects

>>34472406
Even if I did feed into your delusions, it doesn't actually make them true.

See this is the real problem with you narcissists, you think my words physically hurt you or some shit.

>>34472400
I mean nobody is stopping you playing this game.

I said above, the developers, sony, whoever greenlit this game.

I'm still going to laugh you think this game is anything to do with actual parenthood.

>>34472412
I'm delusional? You're the guy who diagnoses people who disagree with him over the internet. And you are the one who thinks of blowjobs when looking at a girl who has a ram card in her mouth.

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>>34472303
i'm a millennial, you probably are too, right? i can tell from your indignant retardation

i'm kind of uncommon tho i studied pure math so logic and definitions are kind of precious to me

most people are using passion like pic related, you are referring to the passion like the passion of christ which is cool i guess but also leaves no room for discussion and isn't at all germane to the topic at hand

>>34472424
I mean, I don't want to be the guy who is in the camp of "Oh my god, I didn't realise!" when they find out the developers of the game who modelled a childlike character sucking something with her mouth, turn out to be pedofiles.

Well, I'd rather be the guy that saw that shit from a mile away.

>>34472423
>I'm still going to laugh you think this game is anything to do with actual parenthood.
Laugh it up then, because I played the game, it is about parenthood. The core theme is the main character was an orphan before becoming an astronaut, he was adopted and he initially hates childhood and kids because his own childhood was hard. Children remind him of bad times. But he is forced to work with Diana too survive a catastrophe on the moon, and over time he becomes a stand-in father for her, protects her and teaches her humanity. And the it's fitting because he more or less adopts her, just as he was adopted.

It is about parenthood and being a parent figure. And my opinion counts for more than yours because you admit you haven't played the game and have no interest in playing it. Your only dog in the fight is to accuse the fans for "being weird" because you can't think for yourself, your critical thinking is whatever people online told you to think.

>>34472451
I've also got like 20 games on my backlog dude.

But can we agree that Japan has a pretty historical issue with this kind of stuff?

>>34472465
Japan didn't have Epstein's Island. And Capcom is not the same as a hentai producer. Capcom is Capcom. I am not going to associate Japanese products as all being the same just because other Japanese people made smut. You are a fucking moron

>>34472483
How am I responsible for Epstein Island?

I am a fucking single man and you are blaming me for the behaviour of the operations of world elites in the white house, royalty in castles.

I'm not that fucking guy, I am actually a fucking scrub just like you.

I would love to wipe the sneer of of the faces of the actual evil people in this world.

But I fucking can't

>>34472490
I am not talking about you, but your people are your people. Your representatives all raped children on that island. And you share something in common with them, you look at a depiction of a little girl and the first thing you look at is her feet and you think it's sexual.

>>34472465
Nigger who cares, people want to fuck cartoon ponies from a little girls show. Any character you make someone is going to want to have sex with it, authorial intent is what matters and Pragmata is made to be a dad sim.

>>34471300
It's Asian made. Over there, they have different way to squeeze weak,free people capable of self preservation. Over here, everymen is psy-opped into being eunuch slaves to serve "their masters" purpose (eunuchs were pricier than normal slaves)— you know "they do it" — or evry woman pushed into being whore consumers to serve "their" purpose. And the Americas West is proud of it as some complex, obfuscated, enforced rule of being programmed into Westerner for maximalist profits for owners . They think Populations change so let's sqizze those losers till they are here and hayjavk their biological and mental strength and redirect our subject. That whole comm not sound incredibly red commie but. Western game auld be about working in harem or something to truly resonate with core value...allegedly :-)

>>34472506
>your people are your people

Yeah, the last 10 years my own family systematically tore apart my life, some "people".

>>34472313
>her eyelashes and lips are sus looking
*Are luscious looking.

>>34472506
>you look at a depiction of a little girl and the first thing you look at is her feet and you think it's sexual.

I don't, and the fact you are imposing that kind of thinking onto me, meanwhile

>>34472532

this kind of poster is present in the thread, is why you deserve to be made a fool.

>>34472359
Just imagine what he'll think about when he realizes kids put beans in their noses all the time.

>>34472546
You'd be the kind of parent who was in the next room arguing with people online about who is the pedo, while your child is cold dead from blocking their airways.

>>34472546
>Just imagine what he'll think about when he realizes kids put beans in their noses all the time.

Can't even imagine, that's the weird thing I don't even imagine kids in that way. He does though. Though I am starting to think the guy isn't a pedophile. I am willing to bet $100 this is a guy who suffers from constant inappropriate compulsive thoughts. My money is saying he has OCD.

Tldr thread like, it's not so much pedophilia that's annoying but just the sexualisation of everyone and everything as if sex is the only highest good ever when it's really just a collective delusion that removes focus from actual important shit in life (like family relations and where hard assets go). It's hyper-pedestalised and this pedophilia freakout is just more of the same hyper-pedestalisation of le sex. Like, rule 34, there's porn of everything, including children characters, who fucking cares. Live your life. Have sex with the people you want to have sex with who want to have sex with you. Avoid legal trouble. Done. It's not that important and shouldn't have ever been. It's an experience that's nice but that's it. It doesn't really extend beyond that short scope of hey, that was nice. Instead our attention is put onto these unimportant things so that our attention is taken away from the fact that our resources are being siphoned away. It's not ohh that's pedo burn them at the stake, or ohh that's not pedophilic you're cooked in the head, it's just who fucking cares.

>>34471300
>But because I think it's cute I'm a bad person?
No.
>Because I want to be a dad I'm the bad guy?
No.
>It just feels awful knowing even the idea that having the fantasy of being some manly badass hero saving a little girl is something worth being critical of in concept fucks me up
It should fuck you up.

Look man, you're not going to be validated by mainstream western society that is outright unwilling to acknowledge the whole human history that embraced reproduction and the sacrifice parents make to keep a family.

You know how hard you have to abuse a mammal to not make it want to reproduce? Look at what society tells girls about getting pregnant: nothing good. Also, what are we telling boys about that responsibility: nothing good. Then to top it off, we talk about sex with an arrogance where we can control the creation of life and stripped the responsibility which makes the act of sex beautiful thus making it a commodity; and, when things are a commodity, there are haves and have nots...

I'm not going to say to you I haven't made mistakes against this philosophy or don't carry the burden of sin and hypocrisy, but only that when I age, I start to understand the error more and more. But, as a fuck up (and you posting for advice), you're not fucked in the head and the poison you're coughing up is a good thing. So, I'll air my sin to you in the hopes that you're encouraged to defend what you're feeling so that it's not killed from you.

Paying $60 for a thinly veiled nod to pedophilia is kind of stupid. Perverts can rummage through the dark web and find crap for free. Pedomata is hardly gratifying for the weirdos who entertain some kind of father/daughter sex fantasy when we can assume the worst in terms of what content they really consume. None of it is about being protective, it is exploitative pure evil. The game is probably already modded where Diana is put in sexual situations, or it inevitably will be.

>>34475114
Why do you know about where to find child sex content? And why do you instantly imagine modding the game to be sexual?

>>34475129
Anybody can research all that, it's common knowledge that gets discussed in the media. Connecting the dots is also obvious. Pragmata is a waving flag to kiddy fiddlers simple as. They dream of a version of Diana with synthetic genitals so they can consummate their hideous desires that cross into incestuous territory. Maybe the game can quell the urges of the sick fucks who play it temporarily, but it will ultimately end up feeding their child thirst.

>>34475174
>Anybody can research all that
What sort of person would research where to find kiddy porn ? And why are you that person?

>>34475215
Go watch Chris Hansen and the other people who do journalism on the subject, such as Predator Poachers, Skeeter Jean, and JiDionPremium. The subject of where CSAM is found comes up all the time, and it isn't just the dark web. People trade it on platforms like Discord and Mega all the time.

Pedomata is just for the chomos. It is Japanese and we know what attitude toward children they have. Every Jap is a fiendish child rapist and they raise their children to be the same way. Japan will not stop the creation of comics catering to sick bastards not because they believe it's an outlet, but because they are all pedos. The nips keep piles of CP in their homes and force it on the wee ones. Pragmata is merely a gateway drug to the dark underworld that it leads to.

>>34475307
You're not Chris Hansen and you're not a Youtuber

>>34471300
It's not real, anon. It's a mix of fake news/hyperreality, and of Capcom doing antagonistic marketing.

Check this video:
https://youtu.be/l63nY0AYebI

Sean is a creepy sociopath, but on this topic he's correct. The mechanism is the same when it comes to Pragmata.

>>34475379
No, and who has to be to see the truth that is out there? A lot of people avoid the subject while living in their little bubbles. They think children are safe when denial smooths over reality. Pragmata is a subtle way to lure people in and begin conditioning them. That's a bit scary.

>>34475485
What's scary is you admitted to researching where to find kiddie porn.

>>34475566
What's scary is you came to 4chan while knowing that people talk about that subject. So what now, chud?

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>>34475485
>game has child
>pedos love children
>playing game with a child makes you pedo
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

>>34475759
Roblox is that way ---->