Literally just go up to a woman, start talking to her, and when she least expects it call her pretty

>>34475808
that guy is attractive, dresses well, and knows how to talk to women enough to pique their interest and get in their pants.

(You) on the other hand snap creepshots of couples in public and run to 4chan to get validation for your curmudgeon-y ways. you see where the problem might be?

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>>34475856
How do you know he's attractive? All you can see is the the back of his head. I dress better than him and I'm taller. Where's my gf? Oh right because life is a pile of fucking unfair bullshit.

All you have to do is improve your looks aka looksmaxxing. Even money isnt that important but you should improve that anyways

Because he's a catch anon. If you want to attract hot women like that you got think more like tuna and less like grilled salmon.

>>34475858
>I dress better than him and I'm taller. Where's my gf?
Have you tried not being an entitled prick?

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>>34475931
>women don't date men with character flaws

Blurry picture but that ass looks nice

>>34475856
I second my friend here >>34475858
You're only viewing him as attractive because he's in a picture with a girl, so you make assumptions.
The truth is when you're with a girl it's like you have social proof, but it doesn't indicate that much about you as a person. Sure getting a gf is hard, but once you have it - it's yours. And you can act like it's normal and natural for you to have it. And from that comes the confidence - from the belief that you deserve this and that you can get it again.
It's such an easy trap to fall into. But it is also such a strong confidence boost, that it actually allows you to believe for long enough that you're good enough for a girl, which in itself gives you the confidence to get a new girl! (If yours didn't work out for example)

Good luck brother!!

>>34475931
Ever tried not to ask to get raped why being a whore?

>>34475808
There's people whose head is in the shitter or something, they only think of impulses, they have no introspection. They go to a woman and laugh for themselves using the woman's sexyness as a topic. That may offend or arouse a woman. If she's offended he laughs as he's surprised by the reaction. If they arouse her, they start touching them as far as the woman allows it. If the woman is shy she will feel forced to allow the groping, feels responsible for rejection, and some weird stockholm syndrome happens, and this is how abusive relationships start.

You on the other hand, are thinking too much. You're introspective. You think you don't want to be rejected. You think the girl will feel ashamed by others from you talking, or you will be cause of discomfort, or she will be burdened by rejecting you. You don't want others laughing at your failure, you think this failure will be part of this or that in the future. You don't move.

If you did move, there's shy girls who won't make a move themselves because they're the same as you (the ones the abusive guy ends up taking). There's more normal girls who expect a douchebag and are defensive. There's some who want to fuck you for your appearance but also are sociallt conscious and want you to make the first move, there's some that want to fuck you and don't give a fuck (These are legit BPD bitches who are ugly, bossy, and grab your arms and say inuendos).

At the end of the day, the problem is you. You didn't cause the problem, but you carey the burden. You have to learn socializing, by trial and error because no professional teaches that, while you ignore and defy your mental morality and defensive stops.

>>34476930
based ESL

>>34475808
Back to this guy huh?

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>>34477159
Yes. Me again. It's not fair that I am invisible and unwanted by women, while dudes like this get a gf without even trying.

>>34475858
>I dress better than him and I'm taller. Where's my gf?

Maybe she doesn't like him for dressing good and being tall lmao. If the only things that matter to you is looks and height look for women who are in to that because clearly she isn't.

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>>34479399
It doesn't matter what the reason is. I've done everything to find a girlfriend, despite the disadvantages I've had to face, and I still haven't got a gf. Meanwhile, all these other dudes just fall ass-backwards into a relationship. Sick of it.

>>34475858
It's because you radiate the exact incel aura that you're showing in every post you make in this thread and literally nobody wants to spend time with a sad bitter loser who blames everybody else for his misfortunes.
>douchebags like this
kek what a twisted little bitch you are. That guy could be the nicest bloke in the world for all you know, the one reason you think he's a douchebag is that he has a girlfriend and you don't. You sound like an insufferable, superficial little cunt and will never score.
>b-but I want advice
no you don't. you want to whine like a little bitch.
>Meanwhile, all these other dudes just fall ass-backwards into a relationship.
they're probably likeable people with an interior monologue that isn't just REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Oh and if I ever see you creepshotting me and my girl I will feed you your fucking camera and film you shitting it out.

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>>34479570
Are you some kind of deluded pleb who believes in just-world theory? Every dude with a gf is clearly the nicest guy in the world and everyone gets what they deserve?
>Oh and if I ever see you creepshotting me and my girl I will feed you your fucking camera and film you shitting it out.
You won't do shit, tough guy.

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Another douche who got a girlfriend without trying. And I'm just meant to be cool with this, right?

You have to like being around women, which is crazy

I don't think it's right that all of these guys are able to get a girlfriend without trying, and I've done everything I can to improve myself, make myself more attractive, and I'm still fucking invisible. Clearly the universe just fucking hates me. There is no other explanation.

I can see why you can't get a gf, no one likes negative and defeatist people

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>>34479364
Well judging by how you're acting here, I can see why.

>>34481905
No one starts out negative and defeatist. Feedback loops will determine your attitude.

>>34481980
I'm in shape tho.

>>34481961
I was defeatist years ago, then I read a book about how to cultivate a more optimistic mindset, and that worked.
You will die one day, do want to waste your precious time here like that?
If the book interests you, the book is: Learned Optimism: How to Change Your Mind and Your Life
Hope you get better anon.

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>>34475808
So the way I did it, is I stopped being a fucking idiot and realized a couple things:
1) we live in 2026. Life is no longer an rpg where you grow from peasant to knight and girls start fawning over you.Nowadays meeting girls irl takes the sort of experience that many of us lack. And it is scary. Because of this - dating apps are not cheating and you should use them. They work, with some caveats, even though they suck ass.
2) They work, but only if you look good. For that you have to lose weight, dress well, groom hairs, take some beautiful and awesome pics of yourself, upload those, and start receiving matches. Once you receive matches - work towards a meeting in the first, second, or third batch of messages. Allow girls to reject you early. Don't let them colonize your time with half-assed replies or avoiding you/specific texts from you regarding setting up calling/meeting times. The perfect girl for you isn't the hottest one or the one with the correct hobbies; It's the one who is ready RIGHT NOW. Not in a week, not "soon", and not "busy". Ready right now. And actually ready to meet. Allow her to show this to you early, and try to not let disappointment overwhelm you with the realization that "her not being ready means that she isn't the right one for me"


Hope I helped.
t. Downloaded dating apps over a month ago, had a date, met a lovely girl, short relationship of a couple weeks, she found out she's truly asexual, (I took her virginity), now we're just friends who cuddle&sometimes more, & I love her as a person.
In the meantime, still getting matches.
Got really close to a date with a couple other women, but a lot of women are trash, professional time wasters, or just incompatible, so it takes time.
It feels so bad first couple times things don't work out. Like you want to kill yourself. But the more matches I receive the more I feel like - it's never over. And I'm absolutely siphoning confidence from these girls. It sustains me... I feel sustained.

>>34481990
I don't really believe that attracting women has anything to do with optimism. There are plenty of dudes out there with toxic attitudes who have gfs and wives.

>>34481999
Well, that worked for me.
That was for you to have a better life tho.

>>34481999
That's probably because women also think with their vaginas. And despite them being pretty - it doesn't mean they're all smart. They're still humans and they follow their urges and make mistakes.
I am heavily addicted to cocaine because it's so good, but it's so bad for me.
Same with being addicted to a good looking guy because he makes me feel so fucking good and the sex is so great. But he's a shit guy.

Just my little analogy hope you like it mister butthole :)

the most important factors that determine attractiveness are (in order from most important to least important) looks, social status/personality, wealth
work first on your looks, then on your social status/personality, then on your wealth

>>34481998
not OP, but were you able to match with girls that you vibe with? Sometimes I think I'm a little too nerd, but idk.

>>34482002
How do you know it was that specifically that worked for you? Correlation =/= causation.
People like to attribute inceldom to things like positivity and attitude, because it gives a sense of logic and fairness. You don't have a girlfriend? Well that's your fault because you're negative or entitled etc. But in reality, a lot of women are dating men who have shitty personalities. So, it clearly isn't that.

>>34482014
https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
here

>>34482014
I live in the real world, not in the abstract, so if I did something and that worked, that works.
Good luck anon.

>>34482003
If I was just some fat slob with no money, I wouldn't have any complaints. But I take good care of myself, I have disposable income, and I've had to work harder than a lot of people to get there. And what's my reward? To be completely ignored by women.

>>34482019
Fair enough, anon. But I refuse to gaslight myself.

>>34482021
excluding the possibility of you overrating your desirability, nowadays the competition for a parter is stiff

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>>34482026

>>34482038
I didn't say that, it's just more difficult than the past

This guy again. He does not want a girlfriend, he only wants to whine.

>>34475808
Be attractive and speak to women.

>>34482042
It's not. It's easier than ever. Why are you lying?

>>34475858
He may have a better personality or better face than you.

>>34482054
based bluepilled chad

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>>34482009
DEFINITIVELY YES.
Actually ALL the girls I matched with who had potential were also extreme medieval/fantasy festival goers, d&d, nature/hiking, cosplay nerdy girls. It's actually been a blessing because when I meet them we instantly click over our love for all these things. It doesn't happen every day, but if I'm looking back, every week or two I get a girl who really fits the bill.
I'm also into singing but haven't been able to demonstrate that to any of them yet.
I lost 20kg in the past year, and still have another 20 to go. I'm almost sure at this point that in another 20g's, I'll get a constant flow of matches.
My profile is honest. Like really honest and I follow this formula:
1) my hobbies
2) who I am
3) what I'm looking for

It doesn't matter if the prompt is 160 characters, 250 or 1500, I'll find a way to stick to my formula.

The girl I'm friends with now is actually letting me use her sewing equipment and we're working on my cosplay together. We're both already going to a medieval fantasy festival. I'm a real nerd and I feel so at home there and just yesterday we booked one together.
The most awesome people go there. Nature loving, story loving, music loving, fantasy/medieval/swords loving people. D&D, just fun overall. Intelligent and understanding people. I highly recommend it

When a girl has none of these things in common with me it's much harder to do something together. There's just nothing there.
There's a lot of "I like pasta" and "I like cheese and wine" and "I order a porn star martini for the table" and "I love traveling" and "give me travel tips to the canari islands" type of girls on dating apps and they're as boring as the text suggests. I really recommend you stick to the bit. If you enjoy nerdy things, truly, then be a nerd.
I'm a huge mount and blade warband fan, I love singing, I love d&d, I love fantasy stories. I love people and deep conversations and meaningful connections. I hate politics, hate activism.. discover yourself

>>34482060
Gay psyopper?

>>34482021
Are you on apps? Is your BMI in normal range? Do you have good photos?
If the answer is yes to all those three, you're probably not writing your profile correctly. I refer you to these posts for advice

>>34481998
>>34482061

>>34475808
>How do you attract a girlfriend?
That's not how this works. You don't "attract" a gf so your thread is a flawed premise.
>You watch douchebags like this
Why/how is he a "douchebag"? Is it because he's a guy with a gf other than you?
>without trying
How do you know if he "tried" or not? He likely talked to the woman he's with before she became his gf. Have you done that?

>>34482084
By definition, if a guy has a girlfriend and I don't, he is automatically a douche. Beneficiaries of an unfair universe.

>>34482090
Well at least you're now going mask-off and admitting your mentally ill worldview.

>>34482061
That's wonderful anon, I'll give a chance to apps. I like alot of the same things as you. Thanks for the tips.

>>34482099
How is it mentally ill?

>>34482090
The guy who has a girlfriend wanted one. You do not want a girlfriend.

>>34482155
Yes I do. I'm sick of being single.

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>>34475808
I know this is probably bait, but I’ll answer in case it helps someone. Not every guy with a girlfriend is a douchebag. I spent years alone improving myself, career, fitness, grooming, hobbies, before I started dating and met someone. I went from feeling invisible to becoming someone capable of giving love. Focus on improving yourself instead of envying others.

>>34482235
I've been taking the improover pill for years. It hasn't done anything for me. Women are still ignoring me, and all these other dudes are getting gfs without trying.

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>>34482246
You’re still moving forward, no need for bitterness. Good luck, anon. WAGMI.

>>34479421
big bunda

>>34482121
Thank you too I'm really happy I could help someone with my experiences. I'm probably one of the last few remaining organic messages on this clanker infested website, and even when they aren't clankers they larp and don't speak from experience, they just project based on their feelings. I'm telling you everything I'm telling you from my own personal recent experiences, and it's a culmination of many years of trying and not succeeding. I tried the irl thing, swallowed the entire long schlong for about a year. But I was too much of a pussy and inexperienced to actually use any romantic language with girls or ask them out on actual DATES. I've made friends, and I've had some meetings which I thought were dates but really they weren't and then the girls noticed I'm desperate and I got rejected for something I never even said and it made me feel terrible. At the end of the day I'm just scared of guessing if the girl is single, if the girl is interested in me, or if the girl is even looking to date. And that guessing drives me to great fear - like I'm bothering them and I would "bring it up from out of nowhere" if I speak in a romantic/dating way. And that led me to believe that I have to "wait" or that there's some "waiting rules" or "waiting period" until I bring something like that up with a girl. Do you know how exhausting, mentally taxing, and effort-inefficient it is to do all that? It made me want to kill myself.

Dating apps suck, THEY SUCK, don't get me wrong. But they remove the guessing.
I am making a MUUUUUCH better use of my time being the same person I've always been - indoors, scared, studying, sometimes going out. Sometimes meeting friends and having fun. But I have motivation to lose weight and dress well, because THE PHOTOS man. They make AAALLLLL the fucking difference. I am sitting at home. Nothing is happening. But matches come, and really now the passive income is trinkling. Not much of it, but it is.

1/2

2/2

I can only imagine the matches better looking dudes with better photos than me have.
So I'll give you another useful piece of advice my brother - don't let ANYONE deceive you. If your dating apps give you ZERO matches - IT'S YOUR LOOKS.
For advice on profile description/text, follow my methods I wrote above.
But looks are the real test. And that takes time to understand. Close up shots, show your face, be beautiful, this one is a MUST. Then full body shots. And shots of you doing something cool and enjoying. Pleasant photo with nature in it is a plus. Cosplay photos - huge plus.
People will say many things dude, and you might think "surely me from now is not that bad?? What difference would the next bmi bracket make?" The answer is ALL the difference dude.
Allow yourself to reinvent yourself. Be someone else. It's not lying. Even if you're completely someone else irl, allow yourself to be beautiful on the photos so long as you don't lie in the description about who you are and what you're looking for. People are attracted to you and you're a product, even if you never wear a pirate cosplay irl - that shit will pull if you look good. The woman knows - I'm going to be with someone who has the potential to look that good. So yeah, I'm basically advocating for you to dress in ways you would never imagine you would, like good looking pants, shoes and shirts. Maybe a bandana, necklace, or bracelet. Something daring (for me it's daring because I'm a super vanilla purist guy)

Alright, yap over. I'm happy I could help you make this decision. And remember dude - don't buy into the meme of going into hobby groups/school/meetups to find girlfriends. It's the difference between painting a house with a roller or painting it using a single finger - irl is extremely slow and you can't depend on it, dating apps are a concentrated effort to get what you want.
Good luck my brother

>>34481933
The tactic behind this is deception:
>"Nothing to see here, girls, just some loser 4, move on...hey there pretty boy, I want to lick every single part of your body"
Some believe it, others know what's up and play along to lower competition. It can be used against their own interests by pretending that something bad is good and they'll play along, because it is their instinct to lower competition.

>>34481998
Lmao kys tranny