I’m engaged, lost over 35lbs, no longer a virgin, good job but the blackpill shit still takes space in my mindI spent teen years and most of my 20s being in blackpill/ manosphere groups and shit and was neet. At 27 I found someone, but I acknowledge I got very lucky (met overseas)My issue is I still have these beliefs and stuff in my mindI don’t want to go to therapy and admit yeah I used to be an inkwell, so can I even overcome this shit on my own? Nearly 29 and I thought it would ease up but no, so I’m asking /adv/
The thoughts will always stay with you but you can slowly acclimate yourself to feeling less antisocial if you are patient and try to change your internal monolgue. I feel like im fucked because I started going on R9K at 13 and im 25 now lol. When I have sexist thoughts I remind myself that men enable this shit lol. "Forgive them for they know no better" Also you are lucky you feel better after losing 35 pounds, I went down from 290 to 220 and I still look like a disgusting tub of lard lol.
>>34482132You're solely responsible for your own beliefs. Nothing can prevent you from changing them, you just have to sit down, introspect, and judge things differently than you have in the past. It helps to have guidance, so if you feel unsure where to start I'd suggest taking up reading. The Discourses of Epictetus and As a Man Thinketh are two great books that can help put things into perspective and urge you to take responsible control over your own mind.
>>34482132>I used to be an inkwell>used to beThat's just it, you're still spiritually an incel after wasting so many of your years consuming this toxic blackpill crap. It's actually pretty common.But it's no big mystery on how to escape it. If having your headspace surrounded by negative failures in your blackpill/manosphere groups are what led to your thought patterns, then logically surrounding yourself with positive and/or successful people (both online and off) will likely lead to the opposite effect.
>>34482132You can't escape it but you don't have to. Just be larger than it. What the black pill boils down to when you take away all the pageantry is simply: "The world is evil". And it is, but you get hit with a dilemma. "Not everyone is evil." And that's also true. So what do you do? Lie to yourself the world is good? Or tell yourself everyone is evil? The trick is just acknowledge that the world has evil but not everyone is willing to do evil. And if you have done it yourself or you are possessed with a mind for it, use it to help identify the good from the bad and the in between. Use it to protect you and that which you love.
>>34482237One rational path out of that quandary is to realize that the evil in the world is good for the sake of teaching us to hate evil. If someone else's dishonesty can teach you the value of honesty, then that means it did you good, and was beneficial over all despite the material harm it caused you. Pure, dispassionate honesty will lead to the belief that the world is good for the sake of becoming wiser, and that it can only be bad when it's taken for its own sake as an end and not as a means.
>>34482252>One rational path out of that quandary is to realize that the evil in the world is good for the sake of teaching us to hate evil.I disagree but also agree, somehow. I disagree on moral principle, evil begets evil. People who inflict it on others are often afflicted by it themselves or has been in their upbringing. Evil operates much like a contagion or social virus this way. So morally I gotta say it's best to fight it at the root and not permit it.That being said it does have a way of being weaponized against itself. A bit like how antivenom requires a dose of venom for it to work. The knowledge of evil can be transformed into powers for good, mercy being the best example of this. Mercy means to have a heart that knows evil, yet choosing against it. Knowing you could easily hurt someone and be capable yet using power of will to override it. That's how mercy is created.
>>34482341I never said to permit it, that would go against everything I believe. I simply mean that you make the best of it when it happens, and learn what you can from it. There is never a situation where you can't refuse to participate in evil, and you can always choose to speak out against it. But you can't always prevent it from happening, and in those moments it's vital to remember that you can still transform it into something good by using the experience to transform yourself into someone good.My own love of justice, truth, compassion and good will towards others comes in large part from the fact that I grew up in an abusive household. I saw what miserable creatures people become when they neglect their better nature first hand, and have the scars to prove it. Those experiences are what gave me the strength to seek out answers and strive towards a better, pure and upright way of life, and I believe anyone can do the same no matter how bad their experiences may have been. It's true that people who suffer abuse often go on to become abusers themselves, but it doesn't have to be that way and it's our responsibility to point towards the better path.
>>34482361Ah, then in that case we are in complete agreement. I'm from the same path myself, extremely abusive childhood. Lost my innocence before I could learn how to talk, grew up with a lot of evil, later afflicted by it and even practiced a lot of it myself. I've been able to recover and live a more righteous life now, but it's hard. Not because I've any desire to relapse back into my old ways, but hard because I've got something beautiful and peaceful now. And it's hard because I feel so dark and profane in comparison. I am glad I can help create an innocent and loving future for those who are not me, for my young family. But every time I bare witness to it, my scars ache.
>>34482132>manosphere groupsBlackpill is opposed to redpill which is part of manosphere
How did you disprove the blackpill at all? You had to geomaxx to get a girlfriend.There's nothing wrong with understanding reality. That's what you have to do.
>>34482402I'm glad to hear you've found a healthier way of life. It's all too easy for those of us with rough pasts to get stuck in it, hating the world and everyone in it instead of learning how to love. In my own life, it's been helpful to keep in mind that those past mistakes and traumas weren't just obstacles, they were lessons. They were the seeds that made improvement possible in the first place, so rather than looking back at them with regret it makes more sense to feel gratitude. Not only did those experiences teach you how to live your own life, but now and for every day moving forward they're also responsible for giving you the opportunity to teach others. That's beautiful enough to make it all worthwhile, no matter how bad it was at the time.
>>34482153How is it toxic when it literally helped him do what he wanted to do and which, I assume, you think is good? The blackpill tells you to go to other countries to get laid if you're unattractive where you are, especially if you are tall and white.He was literally helped by it.>>34482237The blackpill does not say that the world is evil. That's just what you think after judging the world based on previously held moral beliefs. The truth may be depressing if you're ugly and if you used to believe that your future would be far more positive and happy.
>>34482507Thanks. And very good post, the passage in your picture too. You've got some good wisdom in you anon, thank you for consolation today.
>>34482150>Nothing can prevent you from changing themever heard of reality? what is this la dee dah just change your perspective bro bullshit. the best most can do with a lot of blackpills is literally just distract yourself. gaslighting might help, and incorporates change, but anyone with half a braincell can't do that.
>>34483142just to add something practical op. you mentioned being lucky, so I'm guessing you have a strong fear of losing what you now have. my advice is to enjoy what you can while you have it, and keep improving what you can. life sucks and is brutal, I'm not going to sugarcoat shit like the other motherfuckers in here.
>>34483142Anyone with half a braincell should be able to update his beliefs so that they accord with right reason. Sound logic will never "blackpill" you, only immaturity and emotion can do that. If you want to change your beliefs, then the first step is to drop the conceited assumption that everything you currently believe must be correct. It's not possible to learn anything when you've assumed that there's nothing left for you to learn.
>>34482132You can be done with the blackpill, but is it done with you? No. Your very story proves the blackpill right, buddy, you literally became a passport-bro.I will be honest here, I feel like you just want to forget about it all even if it means you have to gaslight yourself, and sincerely? I understand you a little, but I'm not sure if that's gonna work.I think that if it bothers you so much, maybe something like meditation can help you to deal with those feelings. Try it out.>>34482403True, redpillers are scammers.
>>34482519It’s toxic because it makes you miserable regardless of the outcome. There is no “happy ending” with the blackpill. Now how miserable you are is probably a spectrum
>>34483142Internet ideology = unquestionable objective reality.Baiting,retarded or hopeless. Probably all three.
>>34485861>There is no “happy ending” with the blackpillThere is. It doesn't tell you how to live your life, it's just a bunch of knowledge about the importance of genetics. It's your decision what you're going to do with such knowledge (e.g by knowing white traits are more desired even in other places, a white dude can try to marry someone from another place because the competition there will be easier for him).
were you on psl forums?
