I'm 20, slightly nerdy and autistic. gonna graduate in graphic design in 2 months. I've grown to fucking hate graphic design, artoids and art in general. Only continued because it was too late to go back. Now I wanna study an actual science. Is computer science worth it? Or is AI ruining it?
computer science is science in the same sense as that law is a science
>>34483059I am probably getting my bachelor in 4 months in computer science. I have grown to hate coding, designing, testing and every other shit that has to do with computers. >Is computer science worth it?Depends on what you are looking for. Home office is nice. But every day I sit in front of my desk and do any work I am getting a little more convinced to just become a garbage man or some shit. (I work at an IT company and study at the same time.) >Or is AI ruining it?Depends on where you are from. US or China or some shit is probably a little fucked. Their AI is getting better at everything. Here in EU I have little to worry. That shit gets regulated so hard that it doesn't really do shit. The only actual noticeable thing right now is that coding gets more dull. I got so depended on that shit that I probably couldn't even center a div anymore. I probably couldn't even create a div. But in my company no one has feared to be replaced by AI until now. But what do you think will be better when you study an "actual science"?
>>34483252>Here in EU I have little to worrylmao, I am German and the entire sector is being relocated to India and Eastern Europe. Literally every big and small company is outsourcing
>>34483328Damn I am German too. Thankfully my company has a little "privilege" in that sense and we can't be outsourced. But yeah the Indians are a fucking problem, mate. My "no worry" was directed at AI as in Artificial Intelligence and not Allocating to Indians.
>>34483059A CS degree and toilet paper has equivalent importance. If you really don't want to work with graphic design look for another degree other than CS, it'll be better.
>>34483415Why do you say that? AI? Indians?
>>34483557Both, indians accept to have shit work conditions and be overworked while receiving less. AI make seniors more productive, needing less juniors to do the manual part, making the entry level almost disappear and of the small number of entry level jobs you will be against indians, experienced guys that are desperate for a job etc.You can still get a CS degree if you really like the area, but that's something you need to decide.
>>34483059>. I've grown to fucking hate graphic design, artoids and art in general.As is the path of every straight man who majors in graphic design.We all end up becoming web developers or video editors. Your design skills will come in handy, but they'll be a supplemental skill.Even among people who are serious about GD, nobody continues to do GD above like age 26 unless they're a woman. It's a career that caps out at like $65k with the exception of rare talent. Also, the better paying GD stuff will be mind-numbingly boring shit, like working for a T-shirt company or a sign company.As for the GD culture, yeah it's probably the most pretentious industry for how little talent there actually tends to be.AI is disrupting CS like crazy right now, but it's going to disrupt every industry soon, and learning how to build agent harnesses, RAG systems, etc, will give you an edge. People simultaneously don't need to know how to code as well as they did a few years ago, but they also need to have a better understanding of the full ecosystem of a computer to compete. It will also pair well with your GD skills.Probably a more important question is do you want your career to be banging your head against the wall and staring at a computer screen? If no, then go into marketing. Your GD skills will help there as well. There will be way more women (as opposed to zero) and you'll get to maintain your social skills.
>>34483059learn figma, design yourself an app screen by screen, learn claude, get a coderbro to help you make app, then take your skills and use them to make an app that will make money, then make tiktoks, make money - no job required
>>34483410What is your goal even? If you want to earn 50-60k before tax and call it a day, good for you, work for the government or some old tech. You can rent a small apartment and own a small car and go to Nordsee or Mallorca once a year. The rest of your money will finance the retirement of boomers. You will never own a house, never pass on enough to your kids to be sure they will be safe, never go to supermarket or restaurant without looking at the prices. If you actually want to earn enough to save for your own future, CS is not for you. Those freelance jobs for 150k per year are gone. I worked in them for 7 years. Only the government is creating jobs now, everyone else laying off or offshoring. You cannot make more than basic income with CS nowadays.
>>34483059It is always worth being multi-skilled. There is a shrinking job market in CS. But someone who can combine graphics and computers, or just know enough to be the connection between two departments, can have an advantage over applicants in either field
>>34485099Dont listen to this man. I hold two degrees, in chemistry and computer science. Having not worked in chemistry after graduation i forgot everything about it by the time i finished computer science. It is absolutely impossible to make use of any of the skills unless you actualky have industry experience. If you want to combine both skills, you need to apply graphic design in practice, experience how professional agencies use it and for what. Theoretical college knowledge is worth nothing. And for your own products you dont need to study cs just vibe code
>>34484386This guy gets it btw. There are simply no more opportunities these days for noobs. You make your own by building things like software with some guidance from a bro with skills and AI. This sounds extreme but so is getting gapped 5 years at every job opportunity.
>>34483059Basically, as someone with a Bachelor's in Computer Science who never got a programming job - practical skills are worth way more than degrees. What matters is knowing how to make shit that people can buy - that includes the design files in figma which can be translated to real software apps by AI which you can sell afterward. Advertising of the product you make with some help from a coderbro via TikTok is basically all you can rely on.
>>34485245>practical skills are worth way more than degreeThere's a tremendous amount of work, most of it being the kind that pays very well with high job security, that nobody will let you touch without the piece of paper: all the hard engineering fields, all medical fields, all legal fields. Your only options without college are the military, being a tradie and praying you have 20 years of hard toil in your soft tissues, or being the next owen cook and becoming a sales/marketing scam god>>34483059Pick a field where the credentialism of a degrre still matters and pajeets are too stupid to do it
>>34485256>Pick a field where the credentialism of a degrre still matters and pajeets are too stupid to do itSimilar, fields that rely on licenses and tests.Finance for example. The whole industry is basically gatekept by a bunch of mind-numbingly boring tests for different licenses. They're not easy, but not that difficult, mostly boring af. Once you have a series 7, you can very easily get jobs that pay at least $65k. A series 24, even higher. And so on. Like you literally study for these tests, and that's it. Gambling on promotions and references becomes an optional route. Just study, get the license, and now companies want you just for being at least a midwit with license X, Y, Z.Law is similar. You pass the bar, you might not make $200k/year, but you're guaranteed to be able to find okay paying work.
