What the fuck is going on? All through my life, I've never really felt like I fit in. Even when people don't bully me, they treat me like I'm weird or different. Even when people are nice to me, it's a slow, superficial "niceness".I rebuilt my confidence after extensive therapy, but nothing has changed. It's making me want to withdraw from social interaction altogether.Older people have never given me any helpful advice or actual help either. All they say is to just "wait it out". Well, I've been waiting 31 years.
>>34483369You can't wait out autism my friend.
>>34483377I don't have autism.
>>34483369>I rebuilt my confidence after extensive therapy, but nothing has changedOh wow therapy didn't work thats fucking crazy I haven't heard that 100,000 times lol maybe you should pay for more scam sessions sorry I meant therapy
>>34483398>I don't have autismAre you sure? We are on 4chan and you post an anime girl. And your complaint is that you don't know how to socialize.
>>34483508You may have autism since all you know when interacting with people is being confrontational. How is being confrontational the way you do it a sign of mature communication?
>>34483514I am being confrontational because OP's thread is a bad faith thread. He already shoots down any advice before its even given. That's how his OP post reads anyway.>Everyone is fake nice to me>People give me advice to wait it out, no helpful advice, doesn't work, I've been waiting 31 years.. (which is humorous because it implies he was waiting while being a baby in a diaper at age 1)
>>34483465Therapy did help me regain my confidence. It's just that regaining my confidence didn't change the way people treated me.
Some people are uncomfortable to be around. Often, but not always, it is because the people don't accept themselves. You can unconsciously feel it, and it is draining, so you don't want to be around. It feels like if you say or do the wrong thing, it will be too much for this person's ego to handle. There's a certain desperation that is repulsive.It also involves being overly focused on other people's reactions and checking whether they are accepting you or not, this can be done unconsciously even.On the contrary, if you sit down with someone who accepts themselves, who won't be bothered about what I think of them too much, you feel much more comfortable, you can joke, laugh, relax, not worry about saying the wrong thing.A lot of therapists are full of shit, not all them though. They don't even know it. They preach about self-esteem by thinking of the good things about yourself, or that they give you warmth to help your self esteem. The problem with that is if you judge yourself as good when you do good things or when other people accept you, then youu then judge yourself as bad when you "wrong things" or make mistakes, or when other people don't like you.Self-acceptance is better than self-esteem. You accept yourself regardless of what other people think of you. You accept yourself even when you think of your failings and bad traits. Look up "unconditional self-acceptance". It takes practice but once you get it down, every social interaction is much smoother, and you are less focused on other peoples reactions to you.
>>34483574Except this has been going since childhood, long before I fell into depression. So that can't be it.All older people ever told me growing up is "friends are overrated", which is not helpful at all.
>>34483595Are you relaxed around people? Do you think people are picking up on tension?
>>34483624This was going on long before I became depressed, so that has nothing to do with it.But no. I've been to therapy to treat any tension, so that's not a problem anymore.
We have keep an open mind, we can only see you through text.What faces are you making around people?Are you setting yourself up for a self-fulfilling prophecy "Social interactions don't go well for me, now look something ambiguous is in this person's expression, I will interpret it as they must not like me" Now the social interaction actually does start getting worse.What do you smell like? (unlikely the problem because you said since childhood)Your voice and vocabulary? Are you physically intimidating? Very strong? Have a strong looking face?Did you have any best friends when growing up?
>>34483653Please stop bringing up all the irrelevant bullshit. Everytime I fulfill one criteria, the goalpost gets moved. No, I don't have any of those problems.
>>34483664I am beginning to understand you, the earlier poster was right about you. You aren't really interested in advice. Hopefully no one else wastes their time on you.
>>34483671I've already fucking followed all of this generic advice. None of it has worked.
>>34483369Any social circle is like a private club, you simply can't just walk through the door even if it's not fancy, you need an opener and once you're in there's a hierarchy so you need to play the game.You're the homeless bum outside all these clubs.
Have you had the opportunity to ask any of these people why you upset them?At this point I'd start asking a priest what the problem must beSomeone who at least in theory has a moral obligation not to lie to your face, doesn't cost money to talk to>Not the same thing as joining a church, though
>>34483369>I rebuilt my confidence after extensive therapyThat's funny. Confidence without anything to back up is just delusion. I have said this many time already. That's why therapy doesn't work, often times it's just cope and a scam. Let me ask you, if a bearded man, with male genitals came up to you and confidently said that he is a woman, would you take him serious? Would you affirm his beliefs? Would you say he is a woman? When a loser acts confidently, and there's no redeeming qualities that backed that confidence, would you find that weird? I would. I don't mean this to offend, and I am just giving an example.
>>34487420What I mean is: the only way to build your confidence is through a positive feedback loop, in which you do something impressive, and you get recognized by your peers for it. You can see how handsome/pretty people are naturally confident, they receive this feedback loop since their children.
>>34483574people are really not that deep, most people are so plain they really dont think or let alone even could detect such subtle stuff unless its not subtle at all and painfully obvious