>>34488240
Long ago I found 1 that was batshit insane and stalked me, I did interact with her on an on-and-off basis (which was wrong for both), the more I rejected and dumped her the more horny she'd get.

My current wife is nothing like this, but I'd lie if I said threatening to dump her didn't result in her hormones getting absolutely crazy horny as well, on top of cortisol and tears. Best sex happened in worst relationship crises.

I told her I dislike it. I find this reaction of women disgusting. It changes nothing because women don't have any control over this.

And the other women in my life didn't really care about sex, but if you give up, they'll start asking for it "because relationship feels broken if it doesn't happen".

Most women, I found out:
- are a ball of anxiety and stress
- have natural insecurities...
- ...with a huge Instagram-induced load of even more insecurities
- ruminate, ponder and overthink, which kills the mood
- go with their minds "from problem to problem" which doesn't permit proper mood
- SOME women will cope with stress via sex, this can work for a guy, but not really for the girl

I'm with you on your observations and only expand upon it

>>34488240
>Every woman I've had sex with treated it more like a chore or obligation than something they really cared about.
Has it not occurred to you that this may say more about you than it says about women?

>>34488554
They were fine otherwise, but their enthusiasm in the bedroom never matched mine.

>>34488587
Yes. I'm saying, has it occurred to you that they might be a great deal more enthusiastic about sex if they were having it with someone else?

>>34488240
Don't let all of this hearsay online influence you even in the slightest, men here are sharing their real experiences, but remember that this is /adv/ on 4chan and the people who have stable relationships with sex active girlfriends who actually enjoy both the physical and emotional aspect of sex aren't here talking about it, and I can assure you that they exist. I had such a stable and active relationship and sex life in my longest 5 year relationship, my life was extremely sublime back then.

So keep on keeping on dude, the only girl you need is a single girl. As in, one girl. You can find one girl. Good luck man

>>34488587
Oh yeah its really a turn on to be porn pounded into the mattress every time. Lot of you guys are just clowns

>>34488240
Testosterone. Men are ready and horny 24/7 because of it. If you think about it being this horny all the time is really stupid and counter productive but we can't help it.
Women are also crazy horny when ovulating though.
That's all there is to it.

>>34488240
>Why are women not into sex anymore?
They're into sex, they just generally don't like meaningless sex
>Every woman I've had sex with treated it more like a chore or obligation than something they really cared about.
Probably because that's exactly what it was, a chore or obligation and not something that came out of an emotional context

>Their lack of enthusiasm is a huge mood killer, and I eventually just stopped bothering with women altogether when I can have a much better experience jerking off.
You wanted women to have the same sexual appetite and proclivities as a man. That shouldn't turn you off.

>I have never been able to find an enthusiastic partner.
Enthusiasm isn't a character trait and it's not a personality trait. Enthusiasm is a feeling, and if they've not been enthusiastic around you it's because one or both of you did nothing to kindle enthusiasm.

Women don't have the same automatic enthusiasm for sex like we men do, their sex drive is not as incessant as ours. Their sex drive only resembles ours during hormonal shifts (ovulation/menstruation) and that means most of the month their sex drive is going to be tepid at best. The way to ignite that sex drive outside of the hormonal shifts is to use emotional arousal to spark the light, that means bonding in non sexual ways, in romantic contexts, taking her on dates or spending time with her or compliments or just making her feel wanted. Then the woman is more likely to reciprocate in sex, because it will have an emotional context backing it.

If all you do is just cohabitate and spend most of the day scrolling the phone or browsing the internet and just spend most days as roommates and not lovers, every time you feel horny and need to coom, if you expect her to instantly feel enthusiastic out of nowhere, you're gonna be disappointed every time.

Sex is different for men and women. Most women experience pain or feel nothing at all during penetration. Very few experience directly pleasure. External stimulation with the hands or other objects is usually enjoyed, and achieving this is quite difficult and varies from woman to woman.
What women enjoy about sex is the intimate connection with the person they love, the sensuality, a fantasy or fetish.

A terrible example would be eating chocolate. While men eat chocolate (enjoying it physically), women smell it (she don't fell it directly, but she imagine it, and it's pleasant). That's why it's more important to find someone who loves you than someone who wants to have sex.

Also that's why those who can't connect with women (friendship) also won't get sex with them. You can't connect with someone you don't see as an equal.

>>34489065
>Most women experience pain or feel nothing at all during penetration.
Either you've never had sex or you're terrible at it.

>>34488351
Sure but those insecure women are the retarded ones. Same goes for men, given some "sweet spot" of unavailability makes them chase, otherwise it's too "easy". Both want the validation from the opposite gender or validation that you still like them. If both genders were secure then there'd be no need to use sex as a validation tool.

>>34489042
>Women don't have the same automatic enthusiasm for sex like we men do, their sex drive is not as incessant as ours. Their sex drive only resembles ours during hormonal shifts (ovulation/menstruation) and that means most of the month their sex drive is going to be tepid at best.
Wrong. Both in implying men have incessant, "automatic" enthusiasm for sex, and in pinning the cause of women's sex drives to "hormonal shifts" instead of whatever causes men's sex drives.

In both genders, "sex drive" is caused by arousing stimuli. It doesn't just come out of nowhere or nothing or thin air.

>>34489144