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So I'm in a very tight friend group. We're all in the same course and have been doing everything together for years. It's been a lot of fun. But for a couple of years now, I've had feelings on and off for one of the group. She has often indicated that she might feel the same way. I was going to ask her out, because my girlfriend emigrated and the feelings I had for this girl came back, but a friend told me another of the group has been sleeping with her while I'm not in town. And laughing at me, because one of the three that I told about my feelings must have told him.

I never thought I was a jealous person before this.

Funny thing is, a woman who left him years ago, who I've always liked very much, asked me out while I was with my girlfriend. I obviously declined at the time, but I've seen her staring at me since and I'm fairly confident I know that look when I see it. The guy would be livid, and I know the girl I thought liked me would hate to see me with her, she has said so a few times.

The friend who told me about who was sleeping with who is begging me not to make a move on her. He says he's worried it will "upset the harmony of this thing of ours", and that I'll end up ostracised. I don't really care to be honest. There's one year left in uni before we scatter to the four winds and I think really that I'd love to see the looks on their faces when I show her off at balls and graduation dinners. It would also represent a way of reasserting my masculinity as I've had a fairly rotten run of luck in the last 6 months.

Should I go for it? Apres moi, le deluge, non?
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also picrel. very much so
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Do it pussy.
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>>34489126
I'm going to, I no longer feel a sense of loyalty to those people
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>>34489087
>The guy would be livid, and I know the girl I thought liked me would hate to see me with her, she has said so a few times.
Those are absolutely shitty reasons to be with her.
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>>34489241

To be honest, I'm pretty into her, we're very similar, have a lot of shared interests, come from the same place. I could go on, but the main reasons why I didn't go back and ask her out after my girlfriend emigrated were because I liked that other girl and I felt a sense of loyalty to my friend.

I no longer feel either of those things, so have moral permission to go for her, I think. I'm not sure if I should still be loyal to my friend or not. That's why I'm posting here, I'm trying to figure out if I owe him anything. My close friends are just going to go on about "group harmony" and I don't want to be ringing up old school friends to whine about girl issues like we're still 16.

I think seeing them be mad would be very amusing also, but I was feeling very spiteful earlier and do not feel that way so much now. Reading back over my post, how much I like the girl does not come out because I was quite angry when I wrote it.
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>>34489291
Ask yourself how the girl would feel if she knew you were dating her primarily in order to piss off other people.
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I don't care what your words, larp are. They are empty

Only the truth matters and
the truth is I have all of my m in every way I desire
-m
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>>34489388
Shut up, roastie. Get the fuck out of herr.
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>>34489087
did you break up with your girlfriend??? what about her in all this? if you are still with her, then are you really so shallow?
if not go for it lol and then ditch that whole friend group theyre all shitbags and take your new prize on a roadtrip across the country
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>>34489087
I wouldn't want used pussy frankly, but all friend groups fall apart so you should absolutely get what you want brother. Why should the other dude get the happiness YOU want? Fuck that dude, and fuck your other friend. It's YOUR LIFE BROTHER.
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>>34491288
Yeah she emigrated there a few months ago, that's the rotten luck I was talking about. I don't like the idea of a woman being a "prize" but I've decided I'll go for it, with a little conversation with my friend the day before I take the plunge explaining how important he is to etc etc just as a way to keep him and everyone else on side, as I do really value him. I'm not as angry as I was.
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>>34489388
I actually do really like her, and now that I'm not so mad, I still want to try be with her. I've liked her for years, and she's liked me for years too. Before I make a move on her, I'm going to talk to my friend and explain that I really value his friendship but that I'd like to date her and would hope it wouldn't change anything between us.
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>>34489458
That's a horrible thing to say
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>>34491288
I might still have been a bit unclear in my reply- she wouldn't rule out emigration, so I broke up with her as I could not deal with the uncertainty, and how my spirits would be crushed or raised depending on her mood that day. If she did emigrate in the end, she would be gone by now. Emigration is not an option for me due to my career
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>>34492685
go for it. but only if shes nice and you like her. your friends dont seem that great anyways
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>>34493742

I think she's lovely and I think we could get on very well :)
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>>34489087
I would say do it, on complex but stanle philosophical ground.
First, you are not above earthly desires and suffering. Someone who would tell you this is a pseudoreligious retard with baseless morals.
Second, guilt tripping you by putting forward the stability of the group is a coward's move. When people tell you things alongs the lines of "do not listen to your heart, it's more complicated thab that" are manipulators. That's how dictatorships work, that's the mechanism that makes people kill other people at war despite knowing that killing is bad...
You have all the informations about what consequences entail... If your heart still tells you to do it, then that's the only measure that matters now. Except if there are still some details you are unaware of.



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