I want to follow Christ. But I live in Israel and it is seen as very odd to convert from Judaism to Christianity here. My family are not devout but they do not apporve of me leaving Judaism. When I brought it up to my mom she screamed and went into floods of tears. I don't want to disrespect my family but I feel strongly after years of consideration that Jesus is Lord. Where do i go from here?
>>34501882I would say just follow your heart, didnt Jesus not also said you need to love him more then your own family.
You can practice the religion in secret if you must.
>>34501882I mena you also already mentioned it to your mom , she wont be surprised anymore if you tell her that you want to get baptised
>>34501882>Where do i go from here?Get baptised
>>34501882The power of Christ compels you! It os not odd, when Christianity is allegedly an offshoot of Judaism from that region. All you have to do is believe.
>>34501882>Jesus is LordAmen.>Where do i go from here?It's going to be hard from now on. You should just believe.>John 5:24: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.">You can practice the religion in secret if you must.You can't.>Matthew 10:33: "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
>>34501882The most essential part of Christianity is to become good and avoid evil. To that end, I'd suggest reading The Imitation of Christ, The Enchiridion Militis Christiani and Through the Gate of Good. They're all very encouraging books full of helpful guidance.
As you're a Jew, I think you already noticed people trying to poison the well. Read the Bible, in specific, the 4 gospels. Ask God for discernment, forget what other men have to say about God.
>>34502186>The most essential part of Christianity is to become good and avoid evilThe most important part of Christianity is to believe Christ died for your sins and was resurrected, accepting the gift of GraceBecoming a better person comes with following His Word and maturing as a Christian
>>34502254Belief isn't real if it's performative. Saying "I believe" while acting, thinking and speaking in a way that's contrary to that belief means that you don't actually believe, but just want people to think that you do. Christ himself said that you aren't one of his followers unless you do as he says, so any insistence that the mere words "I believe" are enough is heretical and pharisaical.
>>34502383Then it's not real belief, actions come from accepting His Grace, not the other way aroundI'm saying that believing is the core of becoming Christian, not being a>good personAll have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God
>>34502383>Belief isn't real if it's performative. Saying "I believe" while actingI didn't name names, but it seems the shoe fits. You outed yourself really quickly. Performative is what you're doing right now. Works come from your belief, not the other way around. You're white washed tombs, you want to outwardly appear good, but inside you're full of dead men bones.
>>34501882jesus was just thought to be a super good jew. so good in fact that he can be thought of as transcending humanity and somehow have achieved realdeal godhood. theres not that big of a difference between judaism and christianity in terms of belief, its just that christianity has some additional (perhaps more dubitable) stuff tacked on, where the story kind of goes on (old vs new testament). you can for sure do that if you find it in your heart to be right. you already know what to do. i think being a christian is good as a sort of strategy for having what you genuinely believe to have been a good person to be your friend, and be able to converse in the afterlife. in fact your belief in Him can be so powerful that it saves you from being momentarily exiled from the state of consciousness known as heaven
>>34502496That's the point, you can't believe unless you're a good person. Someone who genuinely believes that infinite Love and Goodness bore itself into this world to die for his sake isn't going to act contrary to that belief by spitting on Love and Goodness. Someone who believes will show his appreciation at all times, to the best of his ability, by doing what he can to live up to that ideal.Being a good person doesn't mean that you never make mistakes, it just means that you avoid them as well as you know how, and when you do make them you humbly admit it instead of proudly persisting in them. "I can't be perfect so that means I don't have to try my best" isn't a sentiment accepted by any Christian.
>>34502523This is wrong in so many ways. OP, ignore this guys, just another person talking pretty trying to drag you with him.
>>34502512I genuinely don't know what you're talking about, but I find it worrying that you're getting this hostile because somebody stated that being good is fundamental to Christianity. I never said anything about "good works". Goodness comes from the heart, it comes from loving others, wishing them well and putting them before yourself. Charity is worthless if it's done without love, and the greatest display of love is to guide others towards spiritual wisdom, not towards worldly comforts. You can keep your hostilities to yourself, if a message that implores nothing other than purity and compassion causes you to froth at the mouth then there's no point in even discussing this further.
>>34502542>That's the point, you can't believe unless you're a good person>unless you're a good personSorry?>Matthew 19:17: "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is NONE GOOD BUT ONE, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."Only God is good. You're acting like the pharisees.>Matthew 23:4: "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers."When Jesus actually said:>Matthew 11:29-3: "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
It is better to practice your faith in secret than it is to not do it at all. When the time is right get baptized at the denomination of your choosing. Accepting jesus as a jew is one of the biggest transgressions you can make amongst your people, you are very brave.
>>34502580>You're acting like the phariseesno, he's not. you are. it's so comically blatant that i'm pretty sure your post is bait meant to derail the thread.
>>34502565>I genuinely don't know what you're talking aboutOf course you don't.>stated that being good is fundamental to ChristianityIt's not. None is good. Everyone has done evil.
>>34501882Go to the catholic church near you, and ask about the Order of Christian Intitiation for Adults they have a whole program for baptism, first communion and confirmation that will teach you everything you need to know on how to be a Christian.Your parents will still love you.
>>34502602Oh, I get it now. You should have just said you were a satanist from the start, it'd have saved us the confusion.
>>34502600>>You're acting like the pharisees>no, he's not. you areNo, you are. And he as well. As I said, you want to cast burdens on other people, burdens that you yourself do not carry. It's in the Bible. You speak of thing you don't know. I speak of things I know. If it depended on being good or not, you would 100% go to hell.>Ephesians 2:8–9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."Salvation is easy, salvation is simple, but you don't want to enter into the gates, and you don't want to let anyone else enter.
>>34502614>You should have just said you were a satanist from the startSatan is your father, not mine. That's why you lie.
>>34502625>you want to cast burdens on other people, burdens that you yourself do not carrythat's what you're doing right now. you're not even a Christian, stop playing.
>>34502612>Go to the catholic church near youThis Catholic Church that does cult to Pachamama?
>>34502580>>34502625This is the worst larp I've seen in a long time. Just go back to your dildos and BNWO porn, you absolute demon.
>>34502637>that's what you're doing right now. you're not even a Christian, stop playing.No, that's what YOU have been doing. You don't know what yoke is, and you don't know what burden is. Paul and Moses literally killed a man, but according to your standards they aren't allowed to heaven. You place burden on others backs that you yourself do not follow.
>>34502644>Just go back to your dildos and BNWO porn, you absolute demon.Your mouth is full of curses and obscenity. And yet, you claim to be good, and call me a pharisee when I point that nobody but God is good. You in fact hate God, you hate Jesus, and you aren't a brother or sister.
>>34502651No one on this planet is dumb enough to think "be a good person" means "never make a mistake ever". It means admitting your mistakes when they happen and trying your best to make it up as well as you can. Take your weak bait and go back to whatever atheist infested shithole you came from.
As I said OP, don't look towards men, we are but failures, look at God's direction. Read the 4 gospels if you genuinely want to learn about Jesus.
>>34502660I'm not the one you're screeching at for saying that it's important to be a decent person, you mentally ill larping weirdo. I just know a faker when I see one.
>>34502661The Bible is clear, none but God is good. Why do you keep the traditions of men and deny that which is of God? You claim to believe in God, yet you deny his words.
>>34502580>>34502625>>34502651>>34502660op, this faggot is an atheist shitposter who goes out of his way to try to ruin religious threads on this board. seen him do this garbage several times before. just so you're aware.
>>34502614>You should have just said you were a satanist from the start>>34502644>Just go back to your dildos and BNWO porn, you absolute demon.>>34502670>mentally ill larping weirdo>I just know a faker when I see one.So you say all of this above. And at the same time:>>34502670>it's important to be a decent personAccording to your standards you're not allowed into heaven. Do you see what I meant when I called you a hypocrite, a white washed tomb, a pharisee?>Matthew 23:4: “They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.”
>>34502681>seen him do this garbage several times beforeI always refute you. You always curse at me. I am used to it already. You absolutely won't change your ways, will you? You should read Proverbs.>Proverbs 14:12
>>34502544i see how my view might clash with a christians given how im not a christian
>>34502697i've never said anything to you before, i've just seen you come in and start slinging random accusations at people giving real advice while insisting that christianity is about being evil.
>>34502686According to their standards, they're going to heaven and you're going to hell. Calling out larpers pretending to be Christians is a good deed.
>>34502686bait or jewcall it
>>34502710>i've just seen you come in and start slinging random accusationsSo telling other people what is in the Bible is slinging accusations? Alright.
>>34502728How am I a Jew and a larper for pointing out someone's accusations? He or you, because maybe you're samefagging, tells others that you have to be good to go to heaven, but he accuses me of BNWO porn which I don't even know what it is, calls me a demon, a satanist, a mentally ill larping weirdo, a faker. Is this something a good person says? He or you just proved my point.
>>34502738>Is this something a good person says?about you, yes. you're not a christian. stop pretending to be one. no christian ever in human history has jumped down somebody's throat quoting scripture for saying that christianity is about being good to your fellow man. telling people not to be good to their neighbors is the most unchristian thing anyone could ever say. whatever you are, you're simply evil.
>>34502755>telling people not to be good to their neighbors is the most unchristian...Please, quote when I told anyone not to be good. What I said is, there's no good people, none. Just God. But somehow this makes you guys angry.If you can't quote it, you're just launching accusations at me.>>34502755>whatever you are, you're simply evil.But you're good, right?
>>34502781It's pretty obvious that your only goal here is to give Christianity a bad name. I don't think anyone here is going to fall for it, you need a new script.
>>34502639Imagine posting this cause you think it's some win in a thread about someone who wants to convert to christianity, it's called outreach and dialog, they aren't participating in any ritual.
>>34502827>thread about someone who wants to convert to christianityExactly, someone who wants to be Christian, not a demon worshipper. You can't serve two Gods, it's in the Bible. You don't like the Bible, and in fact, you hate God. That's why you don't like it when I quote for you.
>>34502803>It's pretty obvious that your only goal here is to give Christianity a bad name.So I am the one giving Christianity a bad name, not the guy accusing others of being Satanist, of watching BNWO porn, of being a demon, of being a mentally ill larper? Buddy, your case is weak, you build your house on sand, I build my house on rock.
>>34502835You're a heretic actually, catholic church has been around for 2000 years and the first pope was St. Peter.
>>34502866>You're a heretic actually, catholic church has been around for 2000 years and the first pope was St. Peter.You're lying. Just like the pedos in your Romanist church.
>>34502866>popeYou mean, this pope? The one that uses the boys lover logo in his robes or the newer one?
>>34502840Yes, you're the one who looks bad here. The people accusing you are in the right.
>>34502866He'd need to be an actual Christian in some form to be a heretic. He's either an atheist or a jew who comes to these threads to sow dissent and spew bile.
>>34502898>>34502900So I am a Jew now? I thought I was a Satanist according to you. The only thing you can do is throw accusations before me. You don't want to go to heaven, and you won't let anyone in.
>>34502923all kikes are satanists, moshe.
>>34502936>all kikes are satanists, moshe.Tell me more about t hat, Jesus was a Jew, and Paul was also a Jew, in fact, every early Christian was a Jew. I'm not ethnically Jew, and I am a Christian in belief. But one thing is for sure, you aren't Christian, in fact, you hate God, and you hate Jesus. Here in the OP is a guy wanting to be Christian, and he is reading these vile things you post and call others. Then you say that you have to be a good person to go to heaven. Are you good? Are you a good person? No, you are a Satanist, a devil worshipper, a son of Satan.
>>34502951>Jesus was a JewYou're 100% some kind of paid shill living in Israel.
>>34503034>>Jesus was a Jew>You're 100% some kind of paid shill living in Israel.Accusing me of being Israeli is all you can do, because you've been exposed as a tare.>Ohh noo, Jesus wasn't' a JewOhhhh, yeah? Tell me more about it>John 4:22: “You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.”>Matthew 27:37: “And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”>Matthew 15:24: “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”Now, please, explain to me how Jesus was not a Jew when he himself said he was a Jew? Tell me more how Jesus wasn't a Jew when he himself descended from David?As I said, you hate Jesus, and you hate God. You accuse me of being a Satanist, a demon, and of watching BNWO porn and having a dildo. You have zero arguments, you're from Satan.
>>34501901>I would say just follow your heart,he cant. yids hearts are made from stone, literally, unironicly. i know it is sad and i had some discussions with them. they are incapable to see/feel/vibe with Christ. thats why i think this thread is just a silly trollpost, regarding how this thread got completely derailed, too.as the doors are open for everyone OP, maybe go to the next orthodox (greek/russian/eastern) christian church and request a talk with the headpriest there. if you really are honestly thinking about that and do really want to change, they surely will have time for you and will help you.
>>34501882https://catholic [dot] co.il/?cat=sjv&view=article&id=20You contact a priest close to where you live and start asking questions. It's a long journey with ups and downs along the way, but don't worry. The Lord has a plan for you and you just have to work towards a position where you can say yes to it. The priests will have experience with converts and with dealing with their families. You are not the first to go through this and there are people you can talk to. Good luck, and God bless your journey!
https://jewsforjesus.org/
>>34502523This was very nice, Anon. Almost made me cry. Maybe it can be real if we believe.
