This is a morbid subject, but I don't know who else to ask. My friend hung himself with a belt from his bedroom doorframe. I just want to know for those who can answer, how long would it have probably took him to pass out, I really hope he wasn't suffering long up there.
>>34506980>I just want to know for those who can answer, how long would it have probably took him to pass out, I really hope he wasn't suffering long up there.hanging yourself kills by strangulation, not suffocationstrangulation should take way less than a minute so not very longit sounds like generic advice but you might want to look for a decent therapistsorry anon
>>34506984>hanging yourself kills by strangulation, not suffocationwhats the difference sorry, thanks for answering, here for your troubleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIA8KH6QjM
>>34506995well basically, suffocation is when ability to breathe gets blockedstrangulation is when blood flow to the head gets blockedthe reason a lot of martial arts "chokes" work so quickly is because they rely on strangulationi'm pretty sure hanging oneself is the samehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6t4ooVLiSc
it's honestly not something you should dwell on, if you can help ittry to hold onto the good memories & don't let any grief/pain/regret ruin themwhatever u did together with your friend, probably some based thingsalso if you knew anyone else close to him, you could try talking with them, it might help
>>34507003youre sweet anon, thanks for your time, and the music *tips hat*, in case you care, the whole ep of that song i sent is good, incase you ant more
>>34507007thanks anon, youre a good one
>>34507003The proper way to kill by hanging is to drop the person from a platform and let the whipping effect snap your neck. This is how it was done during executions in the old days.
>>34507003>>34506984how long on average for each to die
>>34507009>>34507012gospeed, anon>in case you care, the whole ep of that song i sent is good, incase you ant moregood to know :D
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A matter of less than a minute, OP. He would’ve blacked out and not felt anything. Total death time, about 3 minutes.
Didn't hanging in the past worked by breaking the neck after the fall?
>>34507075Yeah, but you need a long drop. Most suicides is strangulation.
>>34507067>>34507090thanks anon, i have a question, in terms of suffocation, in movies it takes people like 10 or so secs to passout and when someone cuts thier air suppl;y, but anons here are saying strangulation is faster, unless the movies are wrong
>>34507174Yes, it’s way faster. Oxygen goes to the brain via arteries in the neck and vertebra. Strangulation immediately cuts off that supply. The brain doesn’t store oxygen, but the lungs do. So yeah, it’s much faster to blackout. Once blackout it’s like being anaesthetised; you don’t feel or experience anything.
>>34507188kk thanks anon, appreciate the info
>>34506980>how long would it have probably took him to pass outNot long. 30 seconds, maybe less.
>>3450848030 secs of struggling is long
>>34507026Turns out that wasn't very quick either. It was common practice for the family of the convicted person to pay the local children a fee to grab onto the victim's legs and pull down with all their weight to help ensure a quicker death.
>>34506980Might have been minutes actually
>>34507007This.>>34506984>>34507067Don't cop him out.>>34509627I say BS.>>34509058It's not so bad. You likely know yourself what physically struggling for life is like and that it's not to dwell on. And it's past, now.For an incomplete suspension like you describe, they would most likely have passed out in less than a minute, if unlucky, up to three. It would have been painful and panicking. To die varies, but about 30. Better and more dignified than most. Don't worry about him.
>>34506980HANGING >asphyxiation (dangle on end of rope for 10 minutes) >Time: 5 to 10 minutes > Available: Rope, solid support 10 foot above ground > Certainty: Fairly certain (discovery, rope/support snapping) > Notes: Brain damage likely if rescued. Very painful depending on rope. Most common EFFECTIVE form of suicide. See later > "Asphyxiation" section. >Someone did this about 10 meters from where I was sleeping once. Worked perfectly.
>>34509740that isn't what his friend did>doorframe
>>34509754op here, he slipped the belt through the door and shut it tight on it near the top
>>34506980Sorry for your loss, anon. >but I don't know who else to ask.Try a therapist? Not like they'd be able to answer your question, but having someone to make coping easier sounds more helpful knowing exactly how much your friend suffered.
>>34509806Randomly jumping in here without really reading anything. It is not so painful and can even be done comfortably. It hugs off the blood and put people to sleep. Cops and judofags use the same trick. Some people do it for fun. Not recommend, of course.
>>34506980I think you got your answer already, Anon, but I'm going to echo what some other recommend you don't dwell on it, and that you seek professional help for it. I understand where the question comes from, but I don't think it's good for you to focus on such thing, I'm sorry for your loss.Good luck anon, try to remember the good times with your friend, maybe focusing on keeping his memory alive with little actions he did or things he would've liked doing might help, it helped me, anyways. Music and games were there for me, too.
Fuck everyone with the go get therapy shit. The man wants to know how long his friend was in pain while hanging.
>>34510923This. It’s not a therapy thing; it’s a reassurance thing. He just wants to know his friend didn’t suffer. The way basic human empathy like this is now considered something that ‘needs therapy’ is actually an indictment on everyone suggesting it. Maybe get some fucking therapy yourselves.
>>34510923>>34510968I understand where you both are coming from but honestly that type of question is a coping mechanism more often than not. OP's friend killed themselves, it's something heavy to deal with by itself, and no answer about how long he suffered or not will make the prosess easier, OP admitted themselves the question is morbidIt's not like OP is mentally ill, but a therapist is well equipped for shit like this. Going to a therapist for a few sessions instead of making it a recurring thing is a possibility. Talking with people might help too, but you risk having dumbasses tell you dumb shit that will not help at all. It's the more sensible approach if you ask me.
>>34511008It’s not a “coping mechanism”. You’ve never once thought to yourself what someone you loved was experiencing when they were in pain or dying? Oh wait, I get it. You’re young and never had to watch shit like your mother take five days to die and her brain gone and begging the doctors to give her water but they couldn’t. Life is suffering, bitch. Motherfucker with your glib Gen Z fucking hot takes.
>>34511060>You’ve never once thought to yourself what someone you loved was experiencing when they were in pain or dying? Yes, and it did not help me much in the long run and even today the question did not and does not bring anything positive to me. I do recognize that's a bit of a personal matter though, OP could be different, I suppose.I've spent way more than 5 days mourning someone who was not dead yet, in between hospital visits and watching bodily changes when doctors had already told us everything was "quality of life" instead of a solution, so I was genuinely offering OP advice based around personal knowledge. I was looking for an answer that did not end up solving much or easing any worries, had to go through the loss somehow after that, his case could be similar.You are quite pressed if you assumed all that about an anonymous person who simply used two words. I guess it is my bad for using something kind of buzz word-y, but it's a common term, too.
>>34511098Buddy, just shut the fuck up. It’s totally normal and very human to ask if someone suffered when they died. Nobody needs therapy for being a basic human being. You people pathologise every fucking human emotion and feeling and it’s pathetic. At most OP needs to sit down with a doctor, give them the details, and then go through the medical breakdown. It likely won’t be pretty but at least he’ll have the answers he’s looking for and he can move towards resolving the loss of his mate. He doesn’t need to go to some smug cunt with a psychology degree to sit and agonise over why he’s ‘fucked up’ for feeling and acting like a human.
>>34511098>>34511129op here, my main concern is how much suffering he went through, while i agree i dont need therapy per se, we were both sort of in a dark place but didnt really talk about it, we sort of stoic quiet types, but even now i can see the danger in asking this question, people saying its not painful and he died quickly, i am slightly concerned down the line i might do the same shit, but thats becuase of my situation, as to who needs therapy, like anythign i think it completely depends on the person, for example some people who have a spouse die, some never marry again, some get married fairly quickly, and its purely because of how they cope, some people cant be alone or they get really dark, yet people call them whores/assholes for moving on, but its just that they are very sensitive, then some dont even make contact with people ever again, people ae just different, and ive learned to accept that, but yea me personally if my situation was ok, i wouldnt need therapy for something like this, i just hope he didnt suffer long, but knowing my situation is pretty fucked, i am slightly concerned down the line if nothing changes i might get ideas like this, hopefully not
>>34511154Well, suicidal thoughts (even when it's a matter of deep research on different methods or having the interest but thinking you would "never pull off anything like that") tend to be a sign of concern, just wanna mention that. Wishing you the best OP, hope at the very least you can keep yourself distracted and find strength to keep going.
>>34511154Listen to me, how you feel is not unusual. I still get like this occasionally and I really struggled with it when I was younger. You’re not alone. Life fucking sucks for most people most of the time. But your situation, whatever it is, will not last forever. I guarantee you that you will experience happiness and joy and love and purpose and a sense of accomplishment in your life. Maybe not now, maybe not tomorrow, but you will. Not because you should just grin and bear it, but because you are a human being. The rarest and most advanced life form in the known universe. You can overcome anything and you will. Your friend just lost hope and that’s where it was catastrophic for him. I’m not going to give you some lecture on why it’s worth living but I can tell you that those things you like to do and enjoy and even love are the smallest things and they will save you. The fastest and most painless way to an hero is a bullet to the back of your throat facing up about 45 degrees; this takes out the medulla oblongata and it’s over in one second. So there’s your answer for that if that’s what you’re looking for. I will, however, suggest that instead of getting a gun you get a copy of pic related. This book will give you the answer you’re looking for as to how to deal with these moments. It has just one reminder that will always save you. Always. It saved my life and the life of a friend of mine as well so I’m not exaggerating on it. I wish you well, friend. I like you immensely for your compassion and love for your friend. You deserve everything good, and you will get it.
>>34511234thanks anon, all the best>>34511676i appreciate your devotion to sincerity and goodwill, whatever happens i hope to see you in the next life, take care anon, may good fortune find you always, and thanks for the rec
